Finally a Great PC Version of a Big Release

[Metzli]

So many AAA multi-hundred million dollar games have launched this year, and almost all of them have been terrible PC ports at launch. Lies of P comes out (from a smaller studio), and everything works out of the box: HDR, DLSS2, FSR, decent directional sound, excellent optimization, smooth controls, no shader compilation stutter. We finally get a good, well optimized PC release, and all the internet trolls (who probably have not even played the game because they want to pirate it) just complain about Denuvo being implemented. There are 100% games that Denuvo ruined, killed performance of, etc. This is not one of them. Buy the game or ♥♥♥♥ off, it's worth the price of admission for once.

[76561199548878036]

You got like 4.6h.
If you think the game is great, being 19h in and at the third last boss or so, I got bad news for you...no idea how you could possibly judge its worth yet...because you can't.

As for your internet trolls aka anyone who doesn't share your opinion, I am the same. I refund this once I am done. It ain't worth the money.

[Middy]

Originally posted by 2Based4You:

You got like 4.6h.
If you think the game is great, being 19h in and at the third last boss or so, I got bad news for you...

As for your internet trolls aka anyone who doesn't share your opinion, I am the same. I refund this once I am done. It ain't worth the money.

Good luck.

[76561199548878036]

Originally posted by Middy:

Good luck.

Given they decided to steep extra low and toss like 4 bosses at you at once, I'll need it.
(Ok it's more like 3 mini bosses plus 1, but still)

[Metzli]

Originally posted by 2Based4You:

You got like 4.6h.
If you think the game is great, being 19h in and at the third last boss or so, I got bad news for you...

As for your internet trolls aka anyone who doesn't share your opinion, I am the same. I refund this once I am done. It ain't worth the money.

Cool story bro. It's almost like I did not even comment on the actual gameplay at all, just that the technical side is actually good. That's how low the damn bar is now. If you wanna be part of the reason why good developers keep moving to MTX and DLC laden ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by refunding a game you obviously enjoyed (who the ♥♥♥♥ plays a game for 19 hours that isnt having at least some fun), then your opinion is pretty much useless anyway.

[potato]

Originally posted by Metzli:

Cool story bro. It's almost like I did not even comment on the actual gameplay at all, just that the technical side is actually good. That's how low the damn bar is now. If you wanna be part of the reason why good developers keep moving to MTX and DLC laden ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by refunding a game you obviously enjoyed (who the ♥♥♥♥ plays a game for 19 hours that isnt having at least some fun), then your opinion is pretty much useless anyway.

people like him do this kind of scummy ♥♥♥♥ and then whine about how disrespectful and anti-consumer denuvo is

[76561199548878036]

Originally posted by Metzli:

Cool story bro. It's almost like I did not even comment on the actual gameplay at all, just that the technical side is actually good. That's how low the damn bar is now.

Bruh what lmao
That's not even a bar anymore, because this isn't even about the game anymore. That's just code. No wonder games get worse and worse if the sheep have literally no bar at all anymore.

Originally posted by Metzli:

If you wanna be part of the reason why good developers keep moving to MTX and DLC laden ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by refunding a game you obviously enjoyed (who the ♥♥♥♥ plays a game for 19 hours that isnt having at least some fun), then your opinion is pretty much useless anyway.

Funny enough, you are the reason they do that. Buying up literally anything. I am just going through this torture to check it off my list. I don't play this for enjoyment, that's my take on it. I don't know what it takes for someone to actually "enjoy" a game like that anyway. It's about suffering through the challenge, after all.

But even if the game was actually good, and having seen the second half of it thus far it really isn't, it wouldn't be worth the asking price and this crappy DRM. For 20 EUR, sure, at least it would hit the minimum for Euros per hours played.
As things stand, it'll be a good 2/3 away from being worth 60 EUR.
Make something worth paying for and reasonable people consider it.
But there's plenty sheep to make up for it anyway, so not like it matters.

[Amene]

and everything works out of the box:

Unless you want to rebind the keys, then no cigar.

[Metzli]

Originally posted by Amene:

and everything works out of the box:

Unless you want to rebind the keys, then no cigar.

Key rebinding works just fine? The only thing it did not let me bind was hyphen....but easy enough to just set the mouse button to a different input that it will accept.

[potato]

Originally posted by Amene:

Unless you want to rebind the keys, then no cigar.

i had no issue rebinding keys

[Amene]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by Amene:

Unless you want to rebind the keys, then no cigar.

i had no issue rebinding keys

Try rebinding W, A, S, D, C, Alt, Tilde. Not mentioning other issues listed in other threads.

[Metzli]

Originally posted by Amene:

Originally posted by potato:

i had no issue rebinding keys

Try rebinding W, A, S, D, C, Alt, Tilde. Not mentioning other issues listed in other threads.

Ya there are certain buttons you can't change. I imagine WASD isn't much of a concern for most people though. Most letters and numbers can be rebound, and everything except movement and the fairly unimportant thing that C does can be rebound though. Definitely an issue that should be fixed, but a lot less atrocious than a lot of other games.

[76561199548878036]

Originally posted by Metzli:

Originally posted by Amene:

Try rebinding W, A, S, D, C, Alt, Tilde. Not mentioning other issues listed in other threads.

Ya there are certain buttons you can't change. I imagine WASD isn't much of a concern for most people though. Most letters and numbers can be rebound, and everything except movement and the fairly unimportant thing that C does can be rebound though. Definitely an issue that should be fixed, but a lot less atrocious than a lot of other games.

Doesn't affect me, but it's a literal game breaker for people who use layouts other than QWERTY or QWERTZ. Ironically, French people, for example, are screwed with their AZERTY. They need a controller or other tools to rebind.
Stuff like PowerToys can easily provide that, but it's still a hassle.
So yeah, even on a technical level, might not be so great for everyone...

[Redglyph]

Originally posted by 2Based4You:

Doesn't affect me, but it's a literal game breaker for people who use layouts other than QWERTY or QWERTZ. Ironically, French people, for example, are screwed with their AZERTY. They need a controller or other tools to rebind.
Stuff like PowerToys can easily provide that, but it's still a hassle.
So yeah, even on a technical level, might not be so great for everyone...

Exactly. That's why I didn't buy the game.

We reported that issue after the demo, tried to reach out, and there was no feedback, which was already a bad sign. Another game without support and from devs who don't know there are other countries out there with other keyboard layouts.

Then of course there's the last minute Denuvo stunt. It doesn't annoy everyone but I'm not touching a game that installs something unknown in the kernel of my OS and which can access anything and do who knows what.

So, no, not a great PC release as far as I'm concerned. Neowiz is on my ignore list.

[Amene]

Like I mentioned in the other thread, it's not even about layouts or handedness. Basic stuff like ESDF, WERT, or what I'm sometimes using SpaceDSG - or ANYTHING custom (which is the point of rebinding) not relying on WASD is impossible - without external means like AHK or hardware-rebinding capable keyboards.

It's analogous to Elden Ring's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that (still) has hardcoded G in the middle of the keyboard for calling map.

And all this crap should be called out, loudly. And if review bombs are the only way for them to notice - so be it.

[Myrrdinn]

You ever tried to play a game with WASD if your left handed yeah screw every developer that ever thought this was a good idea. Either support the game for everyone or GTFO.