Flame dudes with shovels

[lentinant]

If I would get to flame robots with shovels in first two hours, I would just refund this game. What a garbage type of enemy.

[Tereru Ooensu]

Yeah they are pretty annoying, what I did was stop trying parry and dodged instead, plus make sure your'e using electric items and weapons because they are puppets

[Kashra Fall]

Way easier if you just dodge them and not try to block them. Blocking them normally results in you being mercilessly pummeled on the ground.

[ben]

yeah as others have said, dodge these boys, smack em with the 'lectric, watch em die

lots of good opportunities for charged attacks, makes quick work of them, stay strong and keep trying!

[BIGMOMMAPRODS]

They literally smack you to the ground and then hit again before you can recover over and over again until your health is gone. They definitely garbage.

[lentinant]

Originally posted by BIGMOMMAPRODS:

They literally smack you to the ground and then hit again before you can recover over and over again until your health is gone. They definitely garbage.

Yep, it is. I've got ability to roll off ground specifically to avoid this situation, but I've managed to get it far past the point I've needed it with those dudes. Most times I've killed them, I've managed to do it in "cheap" way (for example, I've used downstrikes with the one before factory boss).

[An Irate Walrus]

I hold a deep, fulminating hatred for these enemies. That said, I've gotten pretty good at perfect blocks thanks to them.

Took my 40 year old reflexes longer than I'm proud of, but I can mostly make them eat dirt now, rather than the other way around.

[KingDragoon]

They're ez.

[lentinant]

Originally posted by KingDragoon:

They're ez.

Good for you

[KOOLCOO]

- Parry to break their weapons ( they can't hit you then)
- Use something with long range to poke them and dodge
- If you are knocked try to parry when you are on the ground ( instead of dodging, later in the game you will get upgrade to your rolls and dodges)
- You can bait them and run past them ( well expect one )

[Maximilion13]

Originally posted by Tereru Ooensu:

Yeah they are pretty annoying, what I did was stop trying parry and dodged instead, plus make sure your'e using electric items and weapons because they are puppets

here's the funny thing, electric doesn't work on them for some reason, and he can just get u from full HP to death with one hit, one hit then u can't get up because that hit of him is just never ending hits with the shovel and the fire damage too.
dodge not gonna work because the area is too narrow.
I was trying to get from the area of the factory boss to the next, trying to reach the next stargazer. it's so annoying, u can't even activate the stargazer because he is around, and when I did activated I can't use it because he is around, he killed me and they let me revive on the stargazer that I never used, that's what I will call a glitch and I can't accept progressing through this.
so, how to deal with this guy, seriuosly?

[Crack Addict]

Originally posted by Maximilion13:

Originally posted by Tereru Ooensu:

Yeah they are pretty annoying, what I did was stop trying parry and dodged instead, plus make sure your'e using electric items and weapons because they are puppets

here's the funny thing, electric doesn't work on them for some reason, and he can just get u from full HP to death with one hit, one hit then u can't get up because that hit of him is just never ending hits with the shovel and the fire damage too.
dodge not gonna work because the area is too narrow.
I was trying to get from the area of the factory boss to the next, trying to reach the next stargazer. it's so annoying, u can't even activate the stargazer because he is around, and when I did activated I can't use it because he is around, he killed me and they let me revive on the stargazer that I never used, that's what I will call a glitch and I can't accept progressing through this.
so, how to deal with this guy, seriuosly?

congratz you dealt with him the same way i did. respawning at the newly built stargazer instead of the one you rested at is an intentional mechanic, and even if it wasnt you can teleport to it now. as for the shovel boy, theres no good reason to fight him now other than the amulet he drops, i would just suggest you come back with more levels and clown on him

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Maximilion13:

Originally posted by Tereru Ooensu:

Yeah they are pretty annoying, what I did was stop trying parry and dodged instead, plus make sure your'e using electric items and weapons because they are puppets

here's the funny thing, electric doesn't work on them for some reason, and he can just get u from full HP to death with one hit, one hit then u can't get up because that hit of him is just never ending hits with the shovel and the fire damage too.
dodge not gonna work because the area is too narrow.
I was trying to get from the area of the factory boss to the next, trying to reach the next stargazer. it's so annoying, u can't even activate the stargazer because he is around, and when I did activated I can't use it because he is around, he killed me and they let me revive on the stargazer that I never used, that's what I will call a glitch and I can't accept progressing through this.
so, how to deal with this guy, seriuosly?

Parry. Also your dodge has invul frames so you can dodge through the attack. But seriously, parry is your friend. Learn his timings.

[Limp Squirrel]

Originally posted by BIGMOMMAPRODS:

They literally smack you to the ground and then hit again before you can recover over and over again until your health is gone. They definitely garbage.

This is a key example of the game locking a life-saving skill behind a skill tree and prevent it from being available when it's actually useful. Once you get knocked down, there is not a single mechanic in this entire game that can get you out of the follow-up pummeling. It's an incredibly questionable design decision.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Squidcake:

Originally posted by BIGMOMMAPRODS:

They literally smack you to the ground and then hit again before you can recover over and over again until your health is gone. They definitely garbage.

This is a key example of the game locking a life-saving skill behind a skill tree and prevent it from being available when it's actually useful. Once you get knocked down, there is not a single mechanic in this entire game that can get you out of the follow-up pummeling. It's an incredibly questionable design decision.

While I do agree that he shouldn't have a move like that at all, i've faced several and it's only used that specific attack once. How often has he done it for you?

[Limp Squirrel]

About 4 times in total. It's rather random.