Lies of P

Lies of P

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Doho Ar Sep 15, 2023 @ 9:53pm
A little more about Denuvo
Oh Gods. Let me put things about it in its logical place. Two points to start with.

There are not much idealistic pirates (who do not buy games out of principle) in the world. (Thanks to Steam for this)
PC players (most of the pirates are) are very patient.

And with these theses in mind, let's form a couple more.

Those who don't want to buy the game - won't buy it.
Those who cannot buy the game - will not buy it.

Denuvo should technically be able to turn potentially stolen copies of games into purchased ones. Because the lost profit is the profit that could have happened.

Will a person buy a game who has never bought one in his life and does not intend to? (Yes, there are some)
Will a person with a salary of 100 bucks and monthly expenses of 70 buy a game for 60 bucks? I doubt. (Yes exaggerated, but there are such people too, and there are even more of them than the first ones, if we consider the whole world)
What kind of person should be who buys a game because it cannot be downloaded for free?

Let me remind you. Gabe Newell made the strongest blow to piracy with the help of Steam. And he once spoke about this: “Piracy must be defeated with a service better than piracy can offer” (the quote is not exact, but the meaning is preserved)
And I’m keeping quiet about games without anti-piracy protection that have paid off more than once.
And I won’t say anything about GoG. Who knows - understands.

Denuvo hits gaming performance. Especially on weak configurations. It is a fact. To prevent this from happening, development MUST occur with Denuvo in the plans. (let me remind you that the game has 960 minimum requirements)

Also, Denuvo technically doesn’t make sense for the reasons listed above. Yes, some people did some work. And the piece of code they sell really costs money. But considering the size of the price tag, it’s not justifiably a lot of money. Because technically, denuvo does not protect profits.

And this money could be used either for marketing. Or for additional development time. To pay for the work of those dudes who sit and play the game before release and look for problems in it, so that everything will be fine at release. What do they call them there? Testers, yes!

It's like putting a barn lock on a letter. Golden barn lock. To an open letter.

Well, one more argument is not in favor of piracy, but towards it. It was not from the first days of my life that I began to earn money in acceptable values. My mother couldn't afford to buy me games (because there was a time when it was considered a useless activity, wait a minute..). Therefore, with the advent of the Internet in the home, games were pirated. Do you think half the games in my library were spiraled or not? I don't think I'm the only one. But I completed more than one game before I bought it. Many are simply tested before purchasing. (Thank you for such a convenient opportunity as a demo version, which does not exist) Maybe I am breaking some kind of law in some country. But my conscience is clear.
I downloaded Father of War, played for 20 minutes and realized that the story is many times better than the gameplay. I learned the story many years ago.
I've played "Into the Breach" and "FTL" for over a hundred hours. And I bought it at the first opportunity, since it is not always available.
For about two years in my childhood I played Dawn of War with bots, playing for about a thousand hours. Game in the library.

I'm not the only one. I'm sure. But I’m not the majority, I understand that. Anyway. The topic is not simple enough.

Remember guys. The world is not always divided into black and white. Absolute thinking is crap. Exactly like Denuvo.

(Thanks to Google translate for translating the text)
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David Sep 15, 2023 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by Samuellito:
(Thanks to Google translate for translating the text)
I gave up reading it after 2nd line and I see this.
Last edited by David; Sep 15, 2023 @ 10:16pm
Doho Ar Sep 15, 2023 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by David:
Originally posted by Samuellito:
(Thanks to Google translate for translating the text)
I gave up reading it after 2nd line and I see this.
Sorry ^^"
Alex Sep 16, 2023 @ 1:51am 
Very good argument.
Cipher Stormwolf Sep 16, 2023 @ 2:10am 
In 2013, the European Commission paid €360,000 ($541,980) for a study on how piracy affects the sales of music, books, movies, and games in the EU. However, the study never ended up showing it to the public except for one cherry-picked section.1 The Dutch firm Ecory was commissioned to research the impact of piracy for several months, eventually submitting a 304-page report to the EU in May 2015. The report concluded that in general, the results do not show robust statistical evidence of displacement of sales by online copyright infringements.3 However, one specific category, blockbuster movies, is negatively impacted by piracy, with ten downloads leading to about four fewer cinema visits. Two EU Commissioners used those results in a 2016 academic paper to bolster claims that piracy impacts cinema ticket sales.1 The percentage of internet users in Europe that occasionally downloads or streams music, films, series, books, or games illegally decreased between 2014 and 2017, with expenditure on legal content increasing since 2014.0 The EU Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) regularly conducts studies to see how piracy rates evolve over time and helps identify the various barriers and drivers behind this activity.2
AcidSweat Sep 16, 2023 @ 2:44am 
Agree! I pirate games only to test them. If I like the game I would buy it with great pleasure. If not - I just don't care and won't continue playing.

Also cannot agree more about spending money on marketing and development rather than on denuvo.
Hattori Sep 16, 2023 @ 3:15am 
CDPR sold like 50milion w3 copys cyberpunk what? over 30 milions? They dint use denuvo hell they even said "u cant afford our game pirate it".Stop liviing in a fkn past piracy is gone sell a good product and people gnna buy it.Not to mention u have to slice ur budget to pay for denuvo that fk up ur clients PC
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