Lies of P

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nun Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:31am
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PLEASE DONT MAKE STEAM ACHIEVEMENTS.
STOP INTRODUCING MOMENTARY PLEASURES, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK. THEY ONLY ENTER THE GAME TO CATCH ACHIEVEMENTS AND DO NOT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE AFFECTION OF THE DEVELOPERS HAS WITH THE GAME.
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Michel Baie Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:44am 
Is there a dumb take constest currently ongoing that I'm not aware of ?
Because this would be a very good entry.
Last edited by Michel Baie; Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:44am
potato Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:47am 
Harsh45 Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by nun:
STOP INTRODUCING MOMENTARY PLEASURES, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK. THEY ONLY ENTER THE GAME TO CATCH ACHIEVEMENTS AND DO NOT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE AFFECTION OF THE DEVELOPERS HAS WITH THE GAME.
Nonsense...
Wayne_B Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by Hibachi:
Is there a dumb take constest currently ongoing that I'm not aware of ?
Because this would be a very good entry.
clown farming
Kratos Irving Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:52am 
Troll Post
Virake Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Hibachi:
Is there a dumb take constest currently ongoing that I'm not aware of ?
Because this would be a very good entry.
it's clown farming. people make inflammatory posts to bait people into giving them the "Jester" awards, which give the recipient their value in Steam points. as for why people even bother with this, I don't know. even without farming, I have amassed 41992 points and have absolutely no idea what to do with them.
Skenjin Sep 15, 2023 @ 7:14am 
And yet there are also many people who won't even play a game if it doesn't have Steam achievements...
Michel Baie Sep 15, 2023 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Virake:
Originally posted by Hibachi:
Is there a dumb take constest currently ongoing that I'm not aware of ?
Because this would be a very good entry.
it's clown farming. people make inflammatory posts to bait people into giving them the "Jester" awards, which give the recipient their value in Steam points. as for why people even bother with this, I don't know. even without farming, I have amassed 41992 points and have absolutely no idea what to do with them.

I'm using them to get profile stuff and give awards too.
It's a nice feature to have around honestly, a way to give a little ego boost to someone who had a good take, gave good advice, or recommands you a game you didn't knew you wanted.

But yeah, the other side of that coin is the clown farming. that said I've been on the forums long enough to remember baits existing long before that feature.
Hurricast Nov 15, 2023 @ 4:57am 
I won’t even play a souls like if there’s no achievements… the little bell going off is the only thing that keeps me goin
LT. Vixen Fox Nov 15, 2023 @ 6:18am 
Originally posted by Virake:
Originally posted by Hibachi:
Is there a dumb take constest currently ongoing that I'm not aware of ?
Because this would be a very good entry.
it's clown farming. people make inflammatory posts to bait people into giving them the "Jester" awards, which give the recipient their value in Steam points. as for why people even bother with this, I don't know. even without farming, I have amassed 41992 points and have absolutely no idea what to do with them.
I would like the 4800 prize instead of the clown.. The problem is that I really think that the game is of no interest to anyone except for archiving and patch 1.3 is to let even 6 year olds play by bringing the difficulty to easy.. .. In fact lies of p will arrive on switch 2.
SadPlatty© Nov 15, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
What's funny is - while I don't think achievements are a bad thing when they are actually focused on something wild (like Dead Rising with "Zombie Genocider" requiring you to literally kill like 54,000 zombies in 1 play-through), all the stupidly basic ones (like completing a tutorial or finding your first standing stone in Skyrim which is literally handed to you on a platter) are just there to catch "achievement addicts".

Look at Elden Ring as an example - it was one of the first times I saw people save-scumming just to get 100% achievement progress because the game was too long or boring too them. Why bother with the achievements then? Oh well because they are entitled to have them, but too lazy simultaneously to just unlock them with the Achievement Manager program.

That then carried to here - people are save scumming to get multiple endings in one rip, when the game is designed to be played through 3 times to get all P-Organs and stuff...

Am not about to go full "you cheated yourself", but honestly it is like a sneaky mechanism that almost forces certain people to play your game longer because you make 60 achievements with 50 of them being so simple your grandmother could get them, 6 actually tied to slight challenges, and then 4 or so that require some wacky effort. They don't even unlock anything cool anymore either like playing as Tofu in Resident Evil or the Foam Finger in Dead Space.
Michel Baie Nov 15, 2023 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by SadPlatty©:
What's funny is - while I don't think achievements are a bad thing when they are actually focused on something wild (like Dead Rising with "Zombie Genocider" requiring you to literally kill like 54,000 zombies in 1 play-through), all the stupidly basic ones (like completing a tutorial or finding your first standing stone in Skyrim which is literally handed to you on a platter) are just there to catch "achievement addicts".

Look at Elden Ring as an example - it was one of the first times I saw people save-scumming just to get 100% achievement progress because the game was too long or boring too them. Why bother with the achievements then? Oh well because they are entitled to have them, but too lazy simultaneously to just unlock them with the Achievement Manager program.

That then carried to here - people are save scumming to get multiple endings in one rip, when the game is designed to be played through 3 times to get all P-Organs and stuff...

Am not about to go full "you cheated yourself", but honestly it is like a sneaky mechanism that almost forces certain people to play your game longer because you make 60 achievements with 50 of them being so simple your grandmother could get them, 6 actually tied to slight challenges, and then 4 or so that require some wacky effort. They don't even unlock anything cool anymore either like playing as Tofu in Resident Evil or the Foam Finger in Dead Space.

I love how you waited for freaking Elden Ring to witness the "checklist" behavior, which is basically as old as achievements existed. Well, older even, with some old games grading your performance and keeping it in memory for you to check and improve.

Also, save-scumming instead of using SAM it's lazyness, it's trying to still get the achievement as legitimately as possible. Nothing wrong with that beside your judgemental attitude.
Last edited by Michel Baie; Nov 15, 2023 @ 1:38pm
Kevin Ryan Nov 15, 2023 @ 9:02pm 
Who even are you people that post this weird crap.
SadPlatty© Nov 16, 2023 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by Hibachi:
I love how you waited for freaking Elden Ring to witness the "checklist" behavior, which is basically as old as achievements existed. Well, older even, with some old games grading your performance and keeping it in memory for you to check and improve.

Also, save-scumming instead of using SAM it's lazyness, it's trying to still get the achievement as legitimately as possible. Nothing wrong with that beside your judgemental attitude.

To be fair - that was just because ER is also stupid with them. If they had a function to flip an enemy off, they would have had an achievement for doing so to every enemy.

If we are talking older forms of "achievements", then I noticed it as early as Super Mario 64/Donkey Kong 64/Banjo Kazooie, since they had been collect-a-thons that rewarded you getting everything (to your point, always reminding you that you missed a Jinzo/Banana or a star in one of the levels for not finding 7 red coins).

As for SAM, it is I guess, but what is the purpose of copying over a save instead? You want the achievements to feel real - that's it. Hell - I basically saved scum the Hardcore achievement for Callisto Protocol when you could just load the last save after the end credits and change the difficulty, run to the ship and pop it. Did go back after some patches to replay it on that difficulty anyway, so I just got nothing for doing it legit (no skin off my back either). But I will admit that it was far from legitimate - I mean, I didn't even have to try to get the achievement as much as I just walked for 10 seconds to get it. But per your proposed logic, it was legitimate enough that I could be like "Ah-ha! I did everything there was to do!". After all - I did beat the game while it was set to the hardest difficulty on launch.
Originally posted by nun:
STOP INTRODUCING MOMENTARY PLEASURES, PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK. THEY ONLY ENTER THE GAME TO CATCH ACHIEVEMENTS AND DO NOT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE AFFECTION OF THE DEVELOPERS HAS WITH THE GAME.
OP really on the "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Hot Takes" with this one
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Date Posted: Sep 15, 2023 @ 5:31am
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