Now remove denuvo devs

[wolfinston85]

So now that you stupidly released a denuvoless version entirely by accident, can you please remove denuvo so we -the paying public-, can enjoy the same versions of pirates, thank you sweetie.

[min3r95]

Oh yeah, Irdeto was lying and are still lying.

[potato]

Originally posted by min3r95:

Oh yeah, Irdeto was lying and are still lying.:LeViada_normal:

you mean like you just lied about it not having denuvo anti tamper and said it has "denuvo drm" when it's the same thing?

anti cheat and anti tamper and drm aren't separate things, they're all types of drms

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by min3r95:

Originally posted by greenlionguard:

In this case the Denovu you ♥♥♥♥♥ about is literally just an anti tampering software. in other words ANTI CHEAT.

why do you want to cheat so bad in a single player game?

Anti-tamper, Anti-cheat and DRM are 3 separate terms(things) that have nothing to do with each other.

No, the DENUVO they used for this game is neither anti-cheat nor anti tamper, it's the Denuvo DRM.

But Irdeto lied about it being anti-tamper because "DRM" was a bad word.:momoyawn:

Technically it isn't DRM as it prevents a DRM from being tampered with. Without the DRM that it wraps it doesn't actually do anything.

https://www.eurogamer.net/denuvo-anti-tamper-drm

[potato]

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Technically it isn't DRM as it prevents a DRM from being tampered with. Without the DRM that it wraps it doesn't actually do anything.

but that's what drm is, it prevents the product from being tampered with

denuvo is the drm, it's not the thing that prevents the drm from being tampered with

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Technically it isn't DRM as it prevents a DRM from being tampered with. Without the DRM that it wraps it doesn't actually do anything.

but that's what drm is, it prevents the product from being tampered with

denuvo is the drm, it's not the thing that prevents the drm from being tampered with

Nope that's not what a is. A DRM is used to manage access to a piece of media so that such media can't be used when not purchase via legitimate means.

[lukaself]

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Technically it isn't DRM as it prevents a DRM from being tampered with. Without the DRM that it wraps it doesn't actually do anything.

That's the lie mentioned earlier and you bought it hook line and sinker. Denuvo Anti-Tamper has application license management. Even their product page gloats about all the licenses they issued while claiming it's not DRM in the same breath. You can't start your game before being authorized by one of their three codefusion servers.
https://irdeto.com/denuvo/anti-tamper/

I thought we were past that and I'm amazed some people are actually still pushing this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ten years after it's been debunked.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by lukaself:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Technically it isn't DRM as it prevents a DRM from being tampered with. Without the DRM that it wraps it doesn't actually do anything.

That's the lie mentioned earlier and you bought it hook line and sinker. Denuvo Anti-Tamper has application license management. Even their product page gloats about all the licenses they issued while claiming it's not DRM in the same breath. You can't start your game before being authorized by one of their three codefusion serviers.
https://irdeto.com/denuvo/anti-tamper/

What licence are you talking about? That's just for creating the token.

[potato]

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Nope that's not what a DRM is used to manage access to a piece of media so that such media can't be used when not purchase via legitimate means.

which is exactly what denuvo is, it prevents the product from being obtained by illegitimate means as it makes it harder to reverse engineer it so you could circumvent the protection

that is literally what drm means

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

any kind of copy protection is a drm

[boy i'll whip ya head]

ahahaha no way yall are still lurking the forums complaining about denuvo to this day... thats crazyyyy lol. I swear to god the people in the steam forums are the most toxic complainers i've ever seen.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Nope that's not what a DRM is used to manage access to a piece of media so that such media can't be used when not purchase via legitimate means.

which is exactly what denuvo is, it prevents the product from being obtained by illegitimate means as it makes it harder to reverse engineer it so you could circumvent the protection

that is literally what drm means

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

any kind of copy protection is a drm

Nope, it prevents the wrapped DRM from being tampered with. Hense the name antitamper. When Denuvo is wrapped around the Steam DRM it's actually that that is preventing unauthorized access to the game.

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Nope that's not what a DRM is used to manage access to a piece of media so that such media can't be used when not purchase via legitimate means.

which is exactly what denuvo is, it prevents the product from being obtained by illegitimate means as it makes it harder to reverse engineer it so you could circumvent the protection

that is literally what drm means

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

any kind of copy protection is a drm

Sorry I made a mistake, I'll edit fix it in my post. Actually even corrected I see what you are saying. But Denuvo isn't really protecting the game it's protecting the DRM if you want to get technical.

[potato]

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Nope, it prevents the wrapped DRM from being tampered with. Hense the name antitamper. When Denuvo is wrapped around the Steam DRM it's actually that that is preventing unauthorized access to the game.

that's not how it works...

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by HiRed_ThuG:

Nope, it prevents the wrapped DRM from being tampered with. Hense the name antitamper. When Denuvo is wrapped around the Steam DRM it's actually that that is preventing unauthorized access to the game.

that's not how it works...

Our Anti-Tamper solution prevents reverse engineering and changing of executable files in order to strengthen the security of games. Not a DRM (Digital Rights Management) solution in itself, Denuvo Anti-Tamper protects DRM solutions, such as Origin Online Access or the Steam license management system, from being circumvented.

https://irdeto.com/denuvo/anti-tamper/

[potato]

that's nonsense as you can put denuvo on a game without steamworks

[HiRed_ThuG]

Originally posted by potato:

that's nonsense as you can put denuvo on a game without steamworks

Yes you can put it on games with other DRMs but you can't have it do anything useful on its own.

DRMs such as the Steam DRM wrapper are actually quite effective if they can't be easily tampered with.