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MovieMuscle Jan 28, 2024 @ 4:30pm
Two Dragons Blade absolutely blows
Unless you're a virgin, the parry timing on this sword ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks and almost punishes the user for equipping it. The usual perfect guard is much easier to pull off than this ♥♥♥♥. It should absolutely be so that EVERY enemy gets parried any time they hit when you're winding up the sword, but of course, because it's a videogame, they gotta have some artificial difficulty in there with a much smaller window in that wind-up that you actually parry even though it makes zero sense. You should be able to parry anything when you're moving the sword around like that...

EDIT: Also you should absolutely be able to cancel your charge attack. I'm fighting Donkey Mask right now, and he just hits me with his huge sword when I wind up because I can't cancel out of the charge and dodge. So stupid...
Last edited by MovieMuscle; Jan 28, 2024 @ 4:31pm
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MovieMuscle Jan 28, 2024 @ 6:12pm 
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Vox Maximus Jan 29, 2024 @ 3:43am 
Originally posted by Xpresso Dpresso:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO2MuUAYMnQ
ONGBAL is a real beast. He's probably in top 10 worldwide players skillwise. You can't seriously show his videos as a demonstration of how good one or another weapon is. In his hands any weapon is good lmao
Vox Maximus Jan 29, 2024 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by MovieMuscle:
Unless you're a virgin, the parry timing on this sword ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks and almost punishes the user for equipping it. The usual perfect guard is much easier to pull off than this ♥♥♥♥. It should absolutely be so that EVERY enemy gets parried any time they hit when you're winding up the sword, but of course, because it's a videogame, they gotta have some artificial difficulty in there with a much smaller window in that wind-up that you actually parry even though it makes zero sense. You should be able to parry anything when you're moving the sword around like that...

EDIT: Also you should absolutely be able to cancel your charge attack. I'm fighting Donkey Mask right now, and he just hits me with his huge sword when I wind up because I can't cancel out of the charge and dodge. So stupid...

In this game it's important to get the flow of the fight. If you can't get the timings for the perfect guard right, then use weapons with high guard instead. Use charge attacks only when necessary and know the timings. After FromSoft games it takes some time to get used to, but by the end of the game you will be enjoying the combat.
J00777 Jan 29, 2024 @ 5:20am 
blocked, nice try tho.
Mako Jan 29, 2024 @ 8:03am 
As pretty much always its user's error.
Dragon blade's strong attack is true parry, it doesnt just perfect blocks, it also strikes back. So ofc its harder to use and should not be spammed. Use it againts predictable attacks with timings you already know.
Also its not even the main gimmick of this sword. The main gimmick of dragon sword moveset is ability to move between normal attacks. Effectively circling around.
Amene Jan 29, 2024 @ 8:39am 
Unless you're a virgin, the parry timing .... <another stupid drivel how difficult and artificial this game is>

Wtf does "virgin" have to do with anything ?

TDS is a fantastic "fast" weapon, with a heavy charged parry that - if you bother to master it - will delete everything on your way. It parries + hits back + cancel enemies' combos.

But you have to learn to use it. Read: fight and die multiple times.

Why are you even still playing this game ? Go play something else.
Last edited by Amene; Jan 29, 2024 @ 8:40am
Amene Jan 29, 2024 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
Originally posted by Xpresso Dpresso:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO2MuUAYMnQ
ONGBAL is a real beast. He's probably in top 10 worldwide players skillwise. You can't seriously show his videos as a demonstration of how good one or another weapon is. In his hands any weapon is good lmao

But that's how you use this sword. Learn enemies' patterns -> learn when to use TDS.

Why would anyone use TDS and not do that ?
Vox Maximus Jan 29, 2024 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Amene:
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
ONGBAL is a real beast. He's probably in top 10 worldwide players skillwise. You can't seriously show his videos as a demonstration of how good one or another weapon is. In his hands any weapon is good lmao

But that's how you use this sword. Learn enemies' patterns -> learn when to use TDS.

Why would anyone use TDS and not do that ?

Because TDS heavily relies on this specific mechanic. It's great in hands of skilled player. It's worse than most of other weapons in hands of the average player.
Ichimonji Devil Jan 29, 2024 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
Originally posted by Amene:

But that's how you use this sword. Learn enemies' patterns -> learn when to use TDS.

Why would anyone use TDS and not do that ?

Because TDS heavily relies on this specific mechanic. It's great in hands of skilled player. It's worse than most of other weapons in hands of the average player.
If it's great in the hands of a skilled player, then the weapon doesn't suck, the player does.
Ichimonji Devil Jan 29, 2024 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
Originally posted by Xpresso Dpresso:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO2MuUAYMnQ
ONGBAL is a real beast. He's probably in top 10 worldwide players skillwise. You can't seriously show his videos as a demonstration of how good one or another weapon is. In his hands any weapon is good lmao

You don't need ongbal level skill to use tds. There's a huge difference between a no damage, no leveling run and simply learning to use the weapon. Healing, leveling and consumables give you a huge margin for error.
Last edited by Ichimonji Devil; Jan 29, 2024 @ 11:08am
Amene Jan 29, 2024 @ 12:08pm 
Because TDS heavily relies on this specific mechanic. It's great in hands of skilled player. It's worse than most of other weapons in hands of the average player.

You need nothing more that a competent player willing to experiment and learn.

And Ongbal didn't fart out those videos effortlessly on the 1st attempt. The "kill yourself" item is on his bottom belt for a reason.
Last edited by Amene; Jan 29, 2024 @ 12:08pm
Vox Maximus Jan 29, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Amene:
Because TDS heavily relies on this specific mechanic. It's great in hands of skilled player. It's worse than most of other weapons in hands of the average player.

You need nothing more that a competent player willing to experiment and learn.

And Ongbal didn't fart out those videos effortlessly on the 1st attempt. The "kill yourself" item is on his bottom belt for a reason.

How about you post your own video of beating the boss with TDS before commenting any further?
Amene Jan 29, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
How about you post your own video of beating the boss with TDS before commenting any further?

Do you find it as some sort of unsurmountable difficulty to beat a boss in this game with TDS (or anything else) that you need a video proving it ? You can watch quite a few streams with people doing it on a regular basis.
Vox Maximus Jan 29, 2024 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by Amene:
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
How about you post your own video of beating the boss with TDS before commenting any further?

Do you find it as some sort of unsurmountable difficulty to beat a boss in this game with TDS (or anything else) that you need a video proving it ? You can watch quite a few streams with people doing it on a regular basis.

So? Will we see you beating ANY boss with TDS? Or are you going to keep this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up for much longer?
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