Nameless Puppet is stupid

[FluttershyFan121]

Souls veteran. Been playing souls games and souls-likes for many years. This is by far, in my opinion, the most bs boss in existence. Even with me pulling out all the stops, it's attacks are way too fast, it hits way too god da** hard, and is just overall an unfun ending boss fight to deal with. I've switched weapons around, I've used different wishstones and grindstones and everything, and I am unable to beat this boss no matter what I do. I only ever get it's phase 2 down to half health before it decimates me because it gives me zero room to get away and heal. Whether it's cause the AI i'm getting is just constantly in aggressive mode or something, but if I can't even get it past half health in phase 2, i'm refusing to finish this fight because it's too much work to deal with

[Amene]

Have you tried to learn his moveset and how to parry ?

[Senki]

I first tried it and I've also been playing souls games

really there are a few elden ring bosses that are significantly harder to dodge so clearly claiming that you're a ''souls veteran'' doesn't mean much

[strangerism]

I did not have fun with this boss as well but I would not call it stupid or awful or broken. It's just difficult and need mastering, the second phase at least.
My only gripe was the difficulty to do anything else beside attacking or parrying, like for example using the grinder or some consumable etc, because he is so fast and relentless but I guess this is also a skill issue that can be overcame by studying his openings more.

At the end I managed at thankfully completed the game.

I was running an advance build and I borrowed this set up from a user in fextralife.
I used an Electric Chainsaw blade (because he is a puppet and weak to electric) and Black Steel Cutter handle that has a fast power attack (to easy do stagger damage) and a parry guard fable art which you can spam when he start comboing you.
This fable art was the key to easy win the fight, very powerful parry and stagger both at the same time. Give it a try with another handle if you are short of options.

[strangerism]

also it depends on builds. This guy effortlessly obliterates the puppet with the frozen feast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPC4DxQSgzQ

[WhiteLezard]

Nameless puppet is pretty hard but he's nothing you haven't deal with in the past if you've actually played Souls games.
Unless you're one of those people who were carried by white phantoms and warriors of the sunlight.

[Heiinz]

Start the video at 1 hour

https://youtu.be/YcQkAHz239o?t=3601

[Fabio]

First phase is actually fine once you understand his moveset, but I agree his second is a bit BS, you barely have attack opportunity cause he never stops. I always end up using the perfect block grindstone and lots of throwables. Was never able to beat him hand to hand likes most bosses.

[LearnedAndVile]

The hardest part for me in the 2nd phase was his teleporting dash attack.
But I found out the his eyes will flash a second or so before he attacks so it can be reliably parried.
I also found that a good chunk of his attacks in the 2nd phase can be dodged fairly well.

[MundM]

noob

[grendel]

Beating him won't make you feel any better either, which to me is a sign that the boss is poorly tuned. I am sure the gigachads will reply saying I am a loser, but I beat him legit after probably a hundred attempts over many days, so I don't really care what they think.

My honest advice is to install WeMod and turn on godmode to beat him if you're not having fun any more. It's a singleplayer game, cheating doesn't hurt anyone and you can put the game down and play things that are actually more fun. You've already beaten one of the hardest games of 2023 even without killing the Nameless Puppet. I wish I had known about it when I did my first playthrough, it would have saved me a lot of useless rage and 2 broken controllers (broke the first one on Black Rabbit part 2, the 2nd one on Nameless Puppet trying to learn phase 2).

Just remember once you kill the boss (either legit or by cheating) not to accept the prompt to start NG+ because there is more you can do at Hotel Krat once you've killed him.

[FluttershyFan121]

Originally posted by grendel:

Beating him won't make you feel any better either, which to me is a sign that the boss is poorly tuned. I am sure the gigachads will reply saying I am a loser, but I beat him legit after probably a hundred attempts over many days, so I don't really care what they think.

My honest advice is to install WeMod and turn on godmode to beat him if you're not having fun any more. It's a singleplayer game, cheating doesn't hurt anyone and you can put the game down and play things that are actually more fun. You've already beaten one of the hardest games of 2023 even without killing the Nameless Puppet. I wish I had known about it when I did my first playthrough, it would have saved me a lot of useless rage and 2 broken controllers (broke the first one on Black Rabbit part 2, the 2nd one on Nameless Puppet trying to learn phase 2).

Just remember once you kill the boss (either legit or by cheating) not to accept the prompt to start NG+ because there is more you can do at Hotel Krat once you've killed him.

I'm at 50 attempts at this point, and the lowest i've gotten him is half health in phase 2. and that was with me using my best weapon i'm good with (Puppet Ripper), acid cartridges, and a fully upgraded Aegis. The massive issue I'm having is the fact he gives me zero room to heal or repair my weapon. Part of what destroyed that attempt was not just him not letting me heal, but my weapon literally broke cause my Aegis was depleted and i needed to use my weapon to block a massive combo from him. And i couldn't use any canister to restore my Legion before that combo.

I feel like I got the massive shortend of the stick because the Nameless Puppet is just in massive aggressive mode the moment he enters phase 2, so i don't get time to get away for a quick breath. I still had 7 of my 10 heals when he killed me

[grendel]

I did it months ago now so I don't remember where the safe parts were, but I think there is a red attack or combo he does in Phase 2 that leaves you a bit of time while he finishes the combo to heal yourself, but you have to dodge it first. I used it to heal and also to hit him with throwables, which is hard because he is so mobile.

[FluttershyFan121]

Originally posted by grendel:

I did it months ago now so I don't remember where the safe parts were, but I think there is a red attack or combo he does in Phase 2 that leaves you a bit of time while he finishes the combo to heal yourself, but you have to dodge it first. I used it to heal and also to hit him with throwables, which is hard because he is so mobile.

I think I know what combo you are talking about. I can dodge it somewhat well, but the very end attack always clips me and staggers me long enough to keep me from doing anything before he's right back on me again

[Aves]

You can cheat this fight with Aegis Legion Arm + Long weapon + Stamina recovery speed up amulet + wish stone stamina recovery + something to increase your legion gauge. This build will allow you to guard and attack at the same time.

[Wulf_McMau]

I beat it yesterday using the normal sword you have since the beginning - as I wanted to make a challenge to play through the whole game with it - and honeslty... It was one of the most entertaining boss fights i have experienced in a game. You absolutely need to time your parrys right tho - not meaning I dont believe you, but I guess being hard is just the point of these games