Specter = Easy Mode Shame

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

I know maybe some of you don't have skill to beat boss in first try ,, but where is feeling of acoplishment if you do that

Specter should be available only if you lose 50-100 times on boss

Soulslike, Roguelikes ,, are skill based games ,, you learn and teach from the game

It sucks Specter is so OP .. i saw on Youtube .. no skill involve in this game , if you use Specter you can play blindfolded

I hope will be nerfed soon

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by pretorian.stalker:

Yeah, OP has been expressing his feelings about how easy the game is, all while he comments on how good he is. There are quite a few threads about this and it's rather amusing. OP's main concern isn't really the game per se. It just a chance for him to flex and show off because he thinks others care.

This is him flexing about how good he is in video games? On the other thread he talks about how he likes struggling with a boss for hours, days, even weeks. My takeaway was that he has high perseverance, which he obviously needs.

[SteelaiRizel]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by SteelaiRizel:

Personally i liked the Specters, until they buffed their HP through the roof. Before they indeed just felt like another tool to use to observe the boss and get a bit of an advantage.

But they were buffed so hard (i swear their hp feels like it was tripled) they are straight up a crutch now. I think they went a bit too far.

My friend recently got the game and wanted to try out specters because they sounded cool and did so on the Watchman. He beat the boss on the first try and the specter made the fight so easy he felt robbed of actually enjoying the fight. After that he vowed to never use one again.

I think their hp needs a reduction to put them back in the 'tool' section and not the 'crutch' section. Not saying all the way back to their original hp but cutting their new hp a bit would be nice.

Specter should always be just a HELPER (take aggro when you need it, do a bit of damage and all this stuff) and not a CARRY, Specter is currently like another player lol

This how i feel as well. I mostly used him as a tool to observe with and have maybe apply a condition before going bye bye.

Now i have to ban myself from ever using him because the spectre is such a dam crutch now.

[Giganx]

All Souls games have easy modes, and from the sounds of it this game is way more unforgiving than a standard souls game.

No broken builds or magic/ranged cheese. Only 1 potential AI companion for bosses vs being able to summon 3 other players to walk you through every inch of the game. Lies of P is the most hardcore souls game in a while apparently.

[dewoee]

Originally posted by SteelaiRizel:

Actually i can disprove that very fast.

"Lies of P made an explosive entrance into the gaming market. Within the first three days of its release on Steam, the game amassed an astonishing $5 million in sales. This financial success is further emphasized by the fact that Lies of P sold over 100,000 copies during the same initial period on Steam. These impressive Lies of P sales figures solidify its status as a major contender in the world of video games."

And that is just the first three days. It is actually doing very well financially. Way better than expected.

I hope it did well for them, but I wouldn't be so sure. You disapprove exactly what? 100K copies? Looks to me like rookie numbers. Budget still unknown, how can you predict gross profit?

How many players that bought the game at 60€ asked for a refund? I cannot find the number online, but I guess it won't be small (during the first 3 days), or is the 5M counted with refunds already?

After 2 weeks, the game is not even in Steam Top 20 anymore (currently #26 on top sellers by revenue). I found that weird if you followed the hype. You are right, the hype worked, but only for a few days. Take Baldurs gate 3: still #5 in this chart, how many weeks after release? More than 5 million copies sold on Steam with a budget between 100 and 200 M. The budget for Lies of P is not revealed, why exactly is that you think?

I agree that with this game the studio entered the good games arena, but they mainly copied everything. You think that is a coincidence after their first banger of a flop? No, they want to capitalize on the Elden Ring hype train and have some certainty on revenue. I know it is a far stretch, but I think in a year it will be clear that the amount of money it generated was lower than they expected overall, compared to other studios with a great game and the same budget.

And my point still stands, nerfing was done for sales numbers, not to balance the game because of impossible difficulty. To me it is only nerfed to have less players quit and refund, grow the player base as it will be more appealing to more players and generate more money on the long term. It will not be because this studio and devs changed their mind 3 days after release and changed what is in essence, the core of their game, because they did not notice anything during development. The game is too well made to believe that.

[The Hanged Man]

Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:

Specter should be available only if you lose 50-100 times on boss

Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:

I hope will be nerfed soon

Specter should be mandatory until you beat boss like 5 times

I hope it will be buffed soon

See how dumb that sounds? That's you, It's opposite, but equally silly.
Nobody is impressed by you not using in-game mechanics. If you want to impress someone, idk, maybe play with Guitar Hero controller or dance mat. Maybe play it ACTUALLY blindfolded. That would be impressive.

By trying to shame others for playing the game in a different way, you just sound like a dork-ass loser with no real life.

[Sokurah]

While i dont really use specter unless it feels intended, like in the second Bortherhood fight, or when a fight is just tedious af, like the Puppet King before patch i dont really care how people play their games. I did a few years ago and was arguing about this, but i've grown older and i just dont care anymore.

I actually feel you miss out something if you not at least try in an honest way, but thats just how i see the world.

Play the game the way you want.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

The fact that specters exist is not a cause of "suffering" in your life; the fact that you allow the people who use them to live rent-free in your head might be, but that's what we call a self-inflicted wound.

I assure you that no one envies you; pity, perhaps, but your behavior here makes that unlikely.

But envy? Absolutely not.

Bro no one cares what you write , so stop hunt my topics let real players to comment please

No one is insecure like you

Thus spake the dude who's made multiple topics reminding us all that his peers envy his ability to play difficult games, and that the rest of us are doing it wrong.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:

Originally posted by pretorian.stalker:

Yeah, OP has been expressing his feelings about how easy the game is, all while he comments on how good he is. There are quite a few threads about this and it's rather amusing. OP's main concern isn't really the game per se. It just a chance for him to flex and show off because he thinks others care.

It's a sign of a very insecure person who has to highlight his own "skills" and patronize those he deems "unworthy". This is often caused by very low self esteem. It's a classic sign of a bully. They are often weak persons who compensate by picking on some one weaker then them, in this case, players who some times use specters.

If you are not psyho shut up .. you cant judge me ,, because i put point where the game is weak because weak people

Why weak people have to win for fake feeling of acoplisment?

So, wait, they can't judge you, but you can judge them?

Someone stop the ride; I'd like to get off now.

[Poptart]

Here's a fun take -- Spectre's entirely optional. You must use an item before entering a boss room for them to appear. Instead of nerfing bosses, they should've buffed the Spectre to take more aggro / tank more hits, and left the game at it's previous difficulty level so that those that needed help against the bosses got it. Purists still got the OG.

[KiyoshiKenji]

imagine being mad about smth you don't use if someone is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at these games but cares about the story let them use the specter

[Aria Athena]

3:40 in the flesh

https://youtu.be/bsmk2VMxS4Q?t=220

[Pliskin]

I have used spectre Chad for almost every boss and I like to feed him gems too. Imagine caring how people play a game lol.. lmao even.

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by Pliskin:

I have used spectre Chad for almost every boss and I like to feed him gems too. Imagine caring how people play a game lol.. lmao even.

I bet you use throwables too.

I don't know how you sleep at night... your family must be so ashamed.

[Necromanu Shi Atat]

Originally posted by Pliskin:

I have used spectre Chad for almost every boss and I like to feed him gems too. Imagine caring how people play a game lol.. lmao even.

If you play on easy mode to learn nothing about bosses , it dosen't mean you have to encourage people to play with brain closed

[Major Horrigan]

Originally posted by Necromanu Shi Atat:

If you are not psyho shut up .. you cant judge me ,, because i put point where the game is weak because weak people

Why weak people have to win for fake feeling of acoplisment?

the weakest thing in this thread is your garbled english .. right after the sad git gud trolling