Switching to a Technique build feels like I'm gimping my self.

[Slayer]

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Having played my first play through as Motivity with the Pipe wrench on the Watchman's baton, meant huge damage numbers and lots of stagger. Guard breaks were quick to build up too. I had no hassle with bosses that most other players seemed to have a hard time with.

Now I'm playing a Technique build with a maxed Twin Dragon sword which I sometimes swap out for Proof of Humanity or Tyrant dagger for variation and I miss the charged R2 staggers. The guard is lower to on these weapons too, I ended up sticking the Pipe Wrench on the Booster Glaive handle, which feels like a waste of the tech weapons I had maxed out previously to use in NG+

[Dregora]

Because tech weapons are a different playstyle all together.


Motivity builds are clearly super built for stagger/charged attacks into fatal attack. So a lot of blocking/parrying.

Technique builds aren't made for that. You're meant to be more nimbe, use dodge much more as your guard isn't as strong and fight the boss like that.


You're not actually gimping yourself, you're just trying to play a motivity build on a teq build. But it's also personal preference.

[Warbreaker]

Try Trinity spear, crank it to A scaling on technique, your opinion will change ;-)
There is also the curved dancer sword and puppet ripper.

[lazymagpie]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Technique builds aren't made for that. You're meant to be more nimbe, use dodge much more as your guard isn't as strong and fight the boss like that.

Can I read these guard values somewhere, or is this something I have to figure out by testing?

[Dregora]

Originally posted by lazymagpie:

Originally posted by Dregora:

Technique builds aren't made for that. You're meant to be more nimbe, use dodge much more as your guard isn't as strong and fight the boss like that.

Can I read these guard values somewhere, or is this something I have to figure out by testing?

On every weapon you see a guard regain stat I believe, so that's one metric you can see for yourself. Heavy weapons regain more of that grey HP than light weapons do. It makes blocking so viable with them. Guard regain or something it's called, should be a stat on your weapons

The amount of HP you get back is based on your vitality stat, though, I believe.


EDIT: Actually I might've confused something. I think the guard regain you see on your stat list is just the summary of how much you regain per hit, not tied to the weapon itself but your vitality. I thought the weapon mattered too.

I think the heavy weapon is just best suited for that overall guard/perfect guard because if you perfect guard, an enemy gets staggered faster when you do it with a heavy weapon. You can also break an enemy's weapon faster if your weapon is heavy, which is kinda logical. That coupled with guard regen makes guard/perfect guard with a heavy weapon very viable.

Since light weapons just don't inflict as much stagger damage, you're better off dodging more. Ofc perfect guard is still useful.

I can't find any numbers though, sorry

[Leon]

Advancesexual master race reporting in. All these other builds are inferior.

[SadPlatty©]

Scythe and Wheel weapons go BRRR
Spec 30/30 dex/adv and you can easily shred bosses with either, though lately the wheel has been my favorite because the art + elemental damage on NG+ is easily shredding elite enemies/bosses

[zmanbuilder]

technique builds get access to 4 greatsword handles, plus there is 1 advance scaling handle.

I plan to run tech my next run and still use greatswords lol

[Vulture]

Techie weapons want you to have good timing.
Motility weapons want you to have good patience.

[MostlyPanda]

You know the best Tech/Dex weapons are assembled, right? Twin Dragon is just a trap.

[Slayer]

Originally posted by MostlyPanda:

You know the best Tech/Dex weapons are assembled, right? Twin Dragon is just a trap.

I am enjoying the Wrench on the Booster glaiv. What else would you recommend?

[MostlyPanda]

Originally posted by Omega Von Doom:

Originally posted by MostlyPanda:

You know the best Tech/Dex weapons are assembled, right? Twin Dragon is just a trap.

I am enjoying the Wrench on the Booster glaiv. What else would you recommend?

Blade: https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Bone-Cutting+Sawblade

and

Hilt: https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Dancer's+Curved+Sword+Handle <--- My choice
https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Bramble+Curved+Sword+Handle <--- Good alternative

My chosen Hilt is (as said above) is Dancers. I love it's moveset and speed. Bramble is a good alternative if you prefer Diagonal swings.

Edit: Dancers gets an A scaling with Tech modification

[ShiroiRyu]

Look like I need to read more about the combination ...
I was just using this one : https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Electric+Coil+Stick+Head with the Krat Police Baton Handle.
Just bonk ... Maximum one.

[MostlyPanda]

Originally posted by ShiroiRyu:

Look like I need to read more about the combination ...
I was just using this one : https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Electric+Coil+Stick+Head with the Krat Police Baton Handle.
Just bonk ... Maximum one.

Just give a try to what I suggested above. It slaps... really damn hard. You are 1 handing a Greatsword with relatively fast attacks. the weapon art on the blade deal incredible dmg

You'll gonna fall in love with Dex build

[WhoStoleMyNachos]

Originally posted by MostlyPanda:

You know the best Tech/Dex weapons are assembled, right? Twin Dragon is just a trap.

...do you also think trident of the covenant is bad?

[Medina_Rico]

It's definitely different. I used the Seven Coil sword for the whole game once I got it.

Started a new character for Tech and it feels wild. Super fast and mobile, but strangely consumes a lot of stamina. Mostly because I only swung once or twice (mostly) with the greatsword and had by the time I had another opening, my stamina filled up a lot. With technique, I feel like I can swing at will because my animations finish way faster and I can save myself. So I get more greedy.

Just beat the first Black Rabbit gang (or whatever). Been rocking the booster glaive since I got it. It's been fun enough. Sometimes I want to use the umbrella so I can fight like a gentleman, lol.