LET ME REBIND WASD FFS!

[Chopper]

Hoping for rebind capability for WASD in the update, but nope, devs tell non WASD people to f-off! I cant play WASD and I dont want to play this with a controller, I've played all soulslikes with my kb/m and want to continue to do so! FFS just let me rebind my keys in peace!

[MostlyPanda]

you CAN'T play with WASD? what you want to play with? XOGL?

[EndorNeyodera]

You play with KB/M? My condolences to you.

Also seriously, wtf do you use besides WASD?

[gtamike_TSGK]

Originally posted by Chopper:

Hoping for rebind capability for WASD

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1627720/discussions/0/3883848458629287166/#c3883848458629597298

[Sokurah]

Just use ms power toys.

I play with m+kb and usually prefer it. But i admit i switch to gamepad for some bosses. It depends on the game, the situation or even a particular fight.

Never restrict yourself to one device. You should be able to use both proficiently.

[Amene]

Originally posted by EndorNeyodera:

Also seriously, wtf do you use besides WASD?

wtf would you use WASD when there are far better options ? Even ESDF is better as it gives you more keys to use around.

I use RAlt/J/H/L or Space/D/S/G for example. There are also left handed people living on the right side of keyboard.

Also why condolences ? Far better than any gamepad, as long as you spend some time rebinding and adjusting stuff to your preferences (and the game has even passable support, this one - barely - has).

[EndorNeyodera]

Originally posted by Amene:

Originally posted by EndorNeyodera:

Also seriously, wtf do you use besides WASD?

wtf would you use WASD when there are far better options ? Even ESDF is better as it gives you more keys to use around.

I use RAlt/J/H/L or Space/D/S/G for example. There are also left handed people living on the right side of keyboard.

Also why condolences ? Far better than any gamepad, as long as you spend some time rebinding and adjusting stuff to your preferences (and the game has even passable support, this one - barely - has).

ill give you ESDF, that frees up WQA for extra stuff

but RAlt/J/H/L feels a little clunky to me, Space/D/S/G a bit less clunky.

and ill definitely concede to left handed people.

I do apologize if i came off as rude, most souls games, imo, are best with controller, crabclawing aside. So sometimes ill see someone complain about M/kb controls and just wonder why not use a controller in a souls like. But everyone has their preferences and to each their own.

im used to playing Souls games and really any 3rd person action game with controller, as that feels more comfortable to me, and if you enjoy using M/kb, then more power to you :)

[LV-426]

the fact that the game doesn't allow you to remap movement to the arrow keys is the biggest reason I'm not playing this...there are also other key bindings which are locked and cannot be remapped (including the side mouse buttons)

this game sounds really good but the lack pf PC customization options is a dealbreaker for me...why bother even porting the game to PC if you don't have basic features that PC players have been accustomed to

[Amene]

Originally posted by EndorNeyodera:

but RAlt/J/H/L feels a little clunky to me, Space/D/S/G a bit less clunky.

For the record, these 2 are (layout wise) identical. I have one more useful key in the former case (actually two, as I can hardware-rebind RWin to some other key).

I like those, as they free my middle finger to have super easy access to 3-4 buttons vertically, though the original reason was different - Descent 1/2 that I played in 90s and needed up/down as well besides forward/backward. And as the latter was overall more important so I used thumb/pinky for that.

So sometimes ill see someone complain about M/kb controls and just wonder why not use a controller in a souls like. But everyone has their preferences and to each their own.

Cause a mouse with multiple buttons + KB gives you far better and precise control, far more keys, uncomparably more combinations. That's the potential. But ....

.... the badly/minimal effort done ports (read: almost everything) are the issue. With a barrel of gamepad workarounds ported along the way without a shred of thinking. The biggest offenders being forced camera auto-adjustments (reason: gamepad stick is bad for camera/aiming), target lock + target juggling via mouse, aim assists, lack of camera relative attack/action direction, lack of direct shortcuts, cumbersome cycling through items/etc. (LiesOfP is exceptionally bad in this regard), lack of ability to use key combinations, random mysteriously hardcoded keys (a plague in recent 1-2 years), dodge on release and other insane stuff (reason: not enough buttons on gamepad). And lesser issues, thankfully more rarely seen these days - mysterious deadzones, accelerations, decelerations, input lag. There is more stuff, that's just out of my head.

Anyway to give you an idea how it feels to use a <random port's> kb/m implementation these days - it feels like buying a new car while receiving a leaking old 30 year old rusting junk with missing steering wheel, 1 pedal and front seats with springs sticking into one's ass. And the "gamepad is better" answer to that being "just use a bicycle".

[Sokurah]

I'm gonna stop you right there with wasd or tfgh or whatever ARROWS are the way to go ;D

tbh i dont think it makes much difference what key setting you use. As long its comfy for you.

I usually agree that m+kb gives you better control but in some bosses diagonal dodge seems to work pretty good like that one attack from the first phase of the green monster. I changed to gamepad for some bosses so far.

Dodge also sometimes feels unresponsive on m+kb in this game, idk why.

[LV-426]

I thought at least someone over at Nexus Mods would create a mod allowing you to remap movement keys...but as of today nothing...even with Jedi Survivor (which also launched with movement hard locked to WSAD) someone created a mod on Day 1 allowing people to rebind movement to the arrow keys

[Sokurah]

Originally posted by LV-426:

I thought at least someone over at Nexus Mods would create a mod allowing you to remap movement keys...but as of today nothing...even with Jedi Survivor (which also launched with movement hard locked to WSAD) someone created a mod on Day 1 allowing people to rebind movement to the arrow keys

microsoft power toys has a keyboard manager. It solves the problem in a few minutes.

[Lukaspriest]

I'm with you, OP - I think it's ABSURD that we can't rebind the move keys. I think WASD is absolutely ridiculous - I would so much rather bind my movement keys to HOME-ROW and have my left hand in a normal typing position for rebinding and accessing the keys around it - it's just natural. I'm holding out on buying this game until the devs decide to address this, what is in my opinion, foolish and silly design decision. Give me home-row movement keys....or I'll......play something else that lets me. Once they fix this, I'm all in and they can have my money!

[LV-426]

Originally posted by Sokurah:

microsoft power toys has a keyboard manager. It solves the problem in a few minutes.

is it easy to use or is it like AutoHotKeys which involves writing scripts etc?...that seemed very complicated and convoluted

[gtamike_TSGK]

Originally posted by LV-426:

Originally posted by Sokurah:

microsoft power toys has a keyboard manager. It solves the problem in a few minutes.

is it easy to use or is it like AutoHotKeys which involves writing scripts etc?...that seemed very complicated and convoluted

I prefer "KeyTweak" myself been using it for years, I linked it above so easy to use.

[Sokurah]

Originally posted by LV-426:

Originally posted by Sokurah:

microsoft power toys has a keyboard manager. It solves the problem in a few minutes.

is it easy to use or is it like AutoHotKeys which involves writing scripts etc?...that seemed very complicated and convoluted

Its really easy. You bascially just enter in a simple way.

U = W

So if you press U it will change to W.

You can turn it on and off. If you use the PC for other stuff that might be a bit annoying but its still just two clicks in the programm to turn it on and off.