Lies of P

Lies of P

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SpookyFairy Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:02am
An Underrated Masterpiece
It undeniably stands as one of the finest games I've ever experienced, surpassing even some of the revered FromSoftware Souls titles. The puzzling aspect is why it remains underrated. It excels across the board, with its combat standing out as nothing short of remarkable and all other aspects a so well designed.

Despite the potential influence of recency bias, I am convinced that this game is on the path to becoming a true classic. Can't wait for the next souls-like game from Neowiz.

Thoughts..
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Nathaniel Higgers Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Have to agree. The last game that sucked me in this hard and had me doing NG and after NG is Sekiro, which i consider to be one of the best games ever made.

I think the main reason the game is not catching a lot of steam is because generally speaking soulslike games are significantly lower in quality when compared to Fromsoftwares blueprint.
Mortal Shell, Thymesia, Remnant, etc have some good aspects to them, but as a complete product they fall very short.
So i reckon people just instinctively assume LoP is of a similar lower quality.

Alternatively, the majority of people who like Froms games, like the specific ones in which you can play out the power fantasy through farming, leveling, etc.
Something like Sekiro and LoP force you to get good, and rob you of that cheesy element.
Capybarasan Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by SpookyFairy:
surpassing even some of the revered FromSoftware Souls titles. .

I can't wait for you to say exactly which From titles this game surpasses.
Pink Eye Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:24am 
I very much enjoy this game. Plan on doing another new game+ after I finish this run soonish. However, man, this game gives the wrong frustrates.
Nathaniel Higgers Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Capybarasan:
Originally posted by SpookyFairy:
surpassing even some of the revered FromSoftware Souls titles. .

I can't wait for you to say exactly which From titles this game surpasses.
Easily surpasses DS1 for me. I have yet to get all cheetos on DS3 but it might even surpass that.
Krazy Wallet Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:06am 
There are a few rough edges that they need to smooth out such as needless runs to bosses. Either put enemies in the way that I need to fight through, or put me right next to the door so I can jump right back in. But other than a little bit of polish, I agree that this company has a future contending with Fromsoft! I hope they stick to this type of challenge; I find these fights so rewarding! I'll definitely be on the lookout for future titles :praisesun:
MMB Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:06am 
Top tier combat amazing bosses and good exploration also very well balanced game.
MMB Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:
There are a few rough edges that they need to smooth out such as needless runs to bosses. Either put enemies in the way that I need to fight through, or put me right next to the door so I can jump right back in. But other than a little bit of polish, I agree that this company has a future contending with Fromsoft! I hope they stick to this type of challenge; I find these fights so rewarding! I'll definitely be on the lookout for future titles :praisesun:
Runs to bosses are designed to wear the player down.
Pnume Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:09am 
It does quite a few things right and others pretty badly.

I enjoy the game and it gets better the more time I spent with it. Almost done with NG+ and surprisingly (for me), I might play NG+2.

I just wish they made a better parry system and didn't copy some bad ideas from older Fromsoft game like long run before some bosses, awful weapon upgrade system and no PAUSE button FFS...
Krazy Wallet Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by RE/PAKO:
Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:
There are a few rough edges that they need to smooth out such as needless runs to bosses. Either put enemies in the way that I need to fight through, or put me right next to the door so I can jump right back in. But other than a little bit of polish, I agree that this company has a future contending with Fromsoft! I hope they stick to this type of challenge; I find these fights so rewarding! I'll definitely be on the lookout for future titles :praisesun:
Runs to bosses are designed to wear the player down.

I'd be willing to compromise. Every boss gets a 15% health boost if you put me close to the door. Deal???? :steammocking:
Drakenhof Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:16am 
I hope for more games in this "soulslike fairy tale" universe. That post-credits scene hyped me up.
Drakenhof Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Capybarasan:
Originally posted by SpookyFairy:
surpassing even some of the revered FromSoftware Souls titles. .

I can't wait for you to say exactly which From titles this game surpasses.

Dark souls 2, that for sure. And, for me, Sekiro.
An Irate Walrus Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:21am 
I adore Lies of P (XSX for me), but there are some rough edges. The perfect block timing feels dodgy, and the massive spikes between bosses feel less like an invitation to learn and more like a demand to grind it out.

But this is a freshman effort from a small studio, and the fact that they're already doing so many things right means I'm not overly concerned with the bits that could've used some more polish and better tuning; whatever they produce next, I'm on board.
Krazy Wallet Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by Drakenhof:
Originally posted by Capybarasan:

I can't wait for you to say exactly which From titles this game surpasses.

Dark souls 2, that for sure. And, for me, Sekiro.

It's hard to compare games made so far apart. I love DS2 but I will also readily admit that it has not aged very well. It's much harder to get back to that title compared to others.

Personally, there are some things Lies of P does better compared to Fromsoft, and many things Fromsoft does better than Lies of P. At this point, it feels like making a David and Goliath comparison. I'm just excited at what has been shown and the potential. With some extra money, a decent following, and time, I do believe Fromsoft will have a formidable competitor, which hopefully brings us great souls-like games from both companies!
Xenaroth Sep 26, 2023 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by Drakenhof:
Originally posted by Capybarasan:

I can't wait for you to say exactly which From titles this game surpasses.

Dark souls 2, that for sure. And, for me, Sekiro.
Game isn’t better than Sekiro at all. Lies of P is undeniably an excellent game but very far from the masterpiece that Sekiro is.
Suguru Sep 26, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
This game is closer to The Surge and Nioh than to fromsoft games.
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