Level Up button missing, havent beaten first boss yet...

[taeles]

I have been farming a big of ergo, taking on the boss, dieing, rinse repeat. After third attempt on the first main boss (carnival) the 'level up' button vanished, only 'Storage' button is present.

Everything google refers to folks not knowing to talk to the lady in the hotel after the carnival boss but I havent even killed the carnival boss yet.

[Master Blaster]

Yeah the level up feature is only available for so many levels on the star gazer until you defeat the puppet parade master and get to the blue lady at the hotel, basically to stop people from just over leveling in the first area to brute force their way past the first boss, you actually need to learn patterns with proper dodging and parrying mechanics if you decide to use it.

[Byron1c]

I just found this %$#@% "hidden mechanic" in the fcuking game, too bad I put some in to carry capacity and too much in stamina. And from what Ive read, you cannot respect until later. Nothing like arbitrary gating to ruin a game before it even starts properly...

[taeles]

Originally posted by Byron1c:

I just found this %$#@% "hidden mechanic" in the fcuking game, too bad I put some in to carry capacity and too much in stamina. And from what Ive read, you cannot respect until later. Nothing like arbitrary gating to ruin a game before it even starts properly...

painful as it sounds if you built the character in to a no-win situation, roll a new character. still so early in the game that a little grind will get you right back where you were and moving in to the full game in no time. reason i recommend this? aside from this skill-check at the beginning of the game this is seriously one fantastic game beginning to end.

worth the annoyance imo :)

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

Originally posted by Byron1c:

I just found this %$#@% "hidden mechanic" in the fcuking game, too bad I put some in to carry capacity and too much in stamina. And from what Ive read, you cannot respect until later. Nothing like arbitrary gating to ruin a game before it even starts properly...

Lmao.

[gungadin22000]

Gotta point out that the respec mechanism is now unlocked by the time you find the gold coin tree, not after finding the saint statue as in previous patches. This means that it is now unlocked 1/3rd through the game instead of about halfway through the game.

This isn't much of a consolation considering the gold coin tree is hidden behind one of LoP's two gank fights which gives people a lot of trouble. So yeah, rerolling may be an option here if you're struggling. Not everyone can beat the game at level 1 wielding a poop encrusted stick.

I'm currently having fun replaying the game with a new build. Very rewarding to note that I've gotten somewhat gud and can now beat bosses convincingly that obliterated me in my first playthrough.

[SaltySamurai]

Yeah I'm glad I didn't mess up my spec, I wonder if I would have gotten into the game if I did build my character wrong?

I did love the game though and beat it 3 times on game pass, when the DLC comes out I will get the bundle on steam and play it alllll the way through 3 times again. It's the best souls like I have played... But then it's also my first and I've not played that many more since.

[taeles]

Originally posted by SaltySamurai:

Yeah I'm glad I didn't mess up my spec, I wonder if I would have gotten into the game if I did build my character wrong?

I did love the game though and beat it 3 times on game pass, when the DLC comes out I will get the bundle on steam and play it alllll the way through 3 times again. It's the best souls like I have played... But then it's also my first and I've not played that many more since.

I remember hitting that first wall. I messed up the build not knowing the wall was there lol. But by the time I realized it was a skill-check-wall I was over 2 hours and non refundable so i watched some videos, read guides and inched my way through the fight. Glad everyone was right about the game opening up after that first boss because the game is soooo good :)

[Byron1c]

Thanks for the feedback, I actually managed to beat the tutorial boss finally, and (out of stubborness) used the existing character :)

It was my over use of dodging, and not enough blocking. Also, I had assumed my lack of dodge roll was an issue of weight (which is why I put levels into carry), but it was another "hidden" mechanic that you can only roll when not locked on. And once I started parrying more (perfect ones were still an issue), I was able to start doing more damage etc

Id like to say it was all self taught, but I ended up posting on Reddit to see what people would suggest. Surprisingly the "git gud" comment only came out once, and was justified. Not a bad group compared to the norm (in my experience anyway)

Oh, and despite a dex build, I used the great sword

[taeles]

Originally posted by Byron1c:

Thanks for the feedback ... used the great sword

Congradulations, report back 90hrs from now when your still enjoying the whole damn game :)

[Sgt.JESUS]

I really dont know why people still get pissed with the git gud comment, its is what it is, its supposed to be like that. That first boss kicked my ass a few times too, then i realize the dodge in this game is crap hehehe, sometimes you can panic roll but it just dont give you enough distance to even heal safely. So its parry or get killed with some bosses and normal enemies, god there are some normal enemies that are worse than bosses, so i had to git gud, and i did.

[taeles]

Originally posted by Sgt.JESUS:

I really dont know why people still get pissed with the git gud comment, its is ...

the problem with the 'git gud' comment is that in the souls-like genre many (not all, i know) very good souls-like players don't use 'git gud' as a form of encouragement accompanied with advice, they use it as a insult.

my problem with 'git gud', along with the above, is that its blindly thrown at everyone having issues with a souls-like(other genres too) game without taking in to consideration the possiblity of age, hand eye coordination, disabilities and so on. its a blanket explaination some folks (not all, i know) throw at everyone who isnt as good as they are in any given game.