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karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 9:48am
stagger mechanic. I am newbie.....
So do I get this right? When I stagger enemy it has white border around it's healthbar. When this happens I need to face enemy and press LT. Is this correct? Thank you.
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Sobrio Sep 23, 2023 @ 9:53am 
Hold LT
karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 9:55am 
sorry I meant RT or is it LT then? RT is this different attack pattern right?
mayhem523 Sep 23, 2023 @ 9:59am 
You need to hit them with a charged heavy attack, so hold down whatever button you have mapped to heavy attack. That will stagger the enemy, then you need to stand in the right location and light attack to crit it. There will be 3 red slash marks on the enemy, when they glow orange you are in the right spot and just need to light attack. Then do another charged heavy as they are getting up for some extra damage. You can also usually get in a heavy attack in between the stagger and the crit.
karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by mayhem523:
You need to hit them with a charged heavy attack, so hold down whatever button you have mapped to heavy attack. That will stagger the enemy, then you need to stand in the right location and light attack to crit it. There will be 3 red slash marks on the enemy, when they glow orange you are in the right spot and just need to light attack. Then do another charged heavy as they are getting up for some extra damage. You can also usually get in a heavy attack in between the stagger and the crit.
awesome, thanks ! I have got to the 2nd boss. I am happy.
Scrundle Sep 23, 2023 @ 10:28am 
Mayhem523 is right but you can also use a fable attack to trigger it, if your weapon's charged heavy is a bit slow to get off then using a fable move can be more convenient! :)
Sobrio Sep 23, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
sorry I meant RT or is it LT then? RT is this different attack pattern right?
Sorry, hold RT.
homeless emperor Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
So do I get this right? When I stagger enemy it has white border around it's healthbar. When this happens I need to face enemy and press LT. Is this correct? Thank you.

HOLD RT, NOT LT
karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Sobrio:
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
sorry I meant RT or is it LT then? RT is this different attack pattern right?
Sorry, hold RT.
Thank you !
karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by homeless emperor:
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
So do I get this right? When I stagger enemy it has white border around it's healthbar. When this happens I need to face enemy and press LT. Is this correct? Thank you.

HOLD RT, NOT LT
Thx :) awesome
神代るるる Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
So do I get this right? When I stagger enemy it has white border around it's healthbar. When this happens I need to face enemy and press LT. Is this correct? Thank you.

you can rebind the button for special attack, i don't remember default setting.
for example, i put it to LB for easy use as my personal style.
hold that special attack button for performing a direct or combo charge attack.
simply remember this,
when you see a white border you have to do 2 things:
1. use a charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack to deal enough stagger damage
2. make sure that the last hit of charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack hits enemy



※In case you wanna know more, read following details about the theory of stagger:

If there is no white border, you can still stagger enemy, it depends on how much stagger damage you can deal by one hit.
white bar only appears when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than full damage of direct charge attack by the weapon on your hand.
"hold special attack button" or "attack twice then hold special attack button" will perform a charge attack which is called "Direct Charge Attack".
"attack once then hold special attack button" will release a different charge attack called "Combo Charge Attack".
the "Combo Charge Attack" with lower stagger damage is faster than "Direct Charge Attack", and the white bar only shows when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than your full hits of "Direct Charge Attack", So, most of the time combo charge attack and part hits of direct charge attack will not give enough stagger damage to cause stagger, when it started to show the white bar.
the second, only the FINAL HIT of your direct charge attack or combo charge attack can trigger stagger, if you wanna trigger stagger by using charge attack.
that means even if you have already given enough stagger damage you can still not trigger stagger without the last hit.
besides not only the final hit of charge attacks, but also (the final hit of) fable arts and jump/falling attack can trigger stagger.

※normal attacks, perfect guard and parry can also give a bit stagger damage and white bar just let you know that the request of stagger damage at this moment is lower than full hits of a direct charge attack. After you deal enough stagger damage, you need a final hit to trigger stagger.
karmazyn1 Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by 神代るるる:
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
So do I get this right? When I stagger enemy it has white border around it's healthbar. When this happens I need to face enemy and press LT. Is this correct? Thank you.

you can rebind the button for special attack, i don't remember default setting.
for example, i put it to LB for easy use as my personal style.
hold that special attack button for performing a direct or combo charge attack.
simply remember this,
when you see a white border you have to do 2 things:
1. use a charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack to deal enough stagger damage
2. make sure that the last hit of charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack hits enemy



※In case you wanna know more, read following details about the theory of stagger:

If there is no white border, you can still stagger enemy, it depends on how much stagger damage you can deal by one hit.
white bar only appears when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than full damage of direct charge attack by the weapon on your hand.
"hold special attack button" or "attack twice then hold special attack button" will perform a charge attack which is called "Direct Charge Attack".
"attack once then hold special attack button" will release a different charge attack called "Combo Charge Attack".
the "Combo Charge Attack" with lower stagger damage is faster than "Direct Charge Attack", and the white bar only shows when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than your full hits of "Direct Charge Attack", So, most of the time combo charge attack and part hits of direct charge attack will not give enough stagger damage to cause stagger, when it started to show the white bar.
the second, only the FINAL HIT of your direct charge attack or combo charge attack can trigger stagger, if you wanna trigger stagger by using charge attack.
that means even if you have already given enough stagger damage you can still not trigger stagger without the last hit.
besides not only the final hit of charge attacks, but also (the final hit of) fable arts and jump/falling attack can trigger stagger.

※normal attacks, perfect guard and parry can also give a bit stagger damage and white bar just let you know that the request of stagger damage at this moment is lower than full hits of a direct charge attack. After you deal enough stagger damage, you need a final hit to trigger stagger.
Boom ! Extra helpful. Thanks
godskin_pensuke Sep 23, 2023 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by karmazyn1:
Originally posted by 神代るるる:

you can rebind the button for special attack, i don't remember default setting.
for example, i put it to LB for easy use as my personal style.
hold that special attack button for performing a direct or combo charge attack.
simply remember this,
when you see a white border you have to do 2 things:
1. use a charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack to deal enough stagger damage
2. make sure that the last hit of charge attack, fable arts or jump/falling attack hits enemy



※In case you wanna know more, read following details about the theory of stagger:

If there is no white border, you can still stagger enemy, it depends on how much stagger damage you can deal by one hit.
white bar only appears when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than full damage of direct charge attack by the weapon on your hand.
"hold special attack button" or "attack twice then hold special attack button" will perform a charge attack which is called "Direct Charge Attack".
"attack once then hold special attack button" will release a different charge attack called "Combo Charge Attack".
the "Combo Charge Attack" with lower stagger damage is faster than "Direct Charge Attack", and the white bar only shows when the rest of required stagger damage is lower than your full hits of "Direct Charge Attack", So, most of the time combo charge attack and part hits of direct charge attack will not give enough stagger damage to cause stagger, when it started to show the white bar.
the second, only the FINAL HIT of your direct charge attack or combo charge attack can trigger stagger, if you wanna trigger stagger by using charge attack.
that means even if you have already given enough stagger damage you can still not trigger stagger without the last hit.
besides not only the final hit of charge attacks, but also (the final hit of) fable arts and jump/falling attack can trigger stagger.

※normal attacks, perfect guard and parry can also give a bit stagger damage and white bar just let you know that the request of stagger damage at this moment is lower than full hits of a direct charge attack. After you deal enough stagger damage, you need a final hit to trigger stagger.
Boom ! Extra helpful. Thanks

Another tip - you will find these throwable items call the shot put

These things can break the white stagger bar on all enemies including bosses and are a must have just so you don't have to wait on your R2 charge/waste a fable art

You can buy more once you unlocked this merchant in chapter 5
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