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[Apples]

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[Insanity Factor]

The fact that you lose the bars if your fable art gets cancelled just feels like the biggest insult to injury for failing to pull off the skill by getting so much as sneezed at by an enemy. Then again, pulling off some of the bigger hitting 3-bar arts does feel quite satisfying too, so maybe it's some kind of risk vs. reward thing.

[Grimzy]

Originally posted by Eggs&Toast:

What is the point of spending all the effort of building up 3 guage bars (or using $$ items) for a fancy attack & it gets nullified with some spammy little slap?

The game is a lot of fun & I think the best attempt at souls-like, besides the masters FS. But this & a few other battle mechanics are just ridiculous & do not give a good feel to the flow of battle, nor to fairness or payoff for effort/cost.

The point is not to mindlessly spamming it whenever its full and you feel like it.
You need to time when to use it, that is the entire point of them being able to be cancelled.
You just need to get better. This is not like other games where you can mindlessly spam such things without a care in the world.

[SadPlatty©]

Yeah - this is probably my largest "wtf" moment when playing. Using the elec mace, and I love the roll into jumping attack, but the 3 bars is a lot so I save it for elite enemies/bosses.

Was fighting the zombie bear thing in the woods, and mid roll a dog hits me with that projectile attack; wiffed my whole ability...

Get that they don't want you to be able to just keep trying though, as it kicks your adrenaline up; you lost a trump card, so what next?

[Vakula]

100% agreed. This is supposed to be your big super move/ guaranteed big damage and it just gets cancelled or partially cancelled most of the time cuz of how spastic and erratic the bosses are. Just the bosses are way faster than the player character and recover from attacks quicker. It feels unfair.

[Harmless]

The best time to do heavy hitters is right after you do a fatal strike, pretty much always a large window as the enemy is recovering.

[RadioactiveRubberPants]

Its not just that attack either. Having sOMe type of Poise mechanic for both the player and the enemies would change the feel of the game entirely for the better.

[Limp Squirrel]

Originally posted by Grimzy:

Originally posted by Eggs&Toast:

What is the point of spending all the effort of building up 3 guage bars (or using $$ items) for a fancy attack & it gets nullified with some spammy little slap?

The game is a lot of fun & I think the best attempt at souls-like, besides the masters FS. But this & a few other battle mechanics are just ridiculous & do not give a good feel to the flow of battle, nor to fairness or payoff for effort/cost.

The point is not to mindlessly spamming it whenever its full and you feel like it.
You need to time when to use it, that is the entire point of them being able to be cancelled.
You just need to get better. This is not like other games where you can mindlessly spam such things without a care in the world.

Here we go again. Mechanic is inherently flawed. The immediate assumptions were all just spamming Y with a blindfold on "without a care in the world". I have never manages to successfully land the 3 FA combo of the beginner great sword, despite a perfect opening. Every time the enemy interrupts me with the smallest of contact. The time it takes to charge those FA bars vs the potential reward of using them is extremely imbalanced.

If "managing to pull one off completely" is the benchmark of utility and usefulness, were miles away from improvement.

[Haruspex]

Especially near the end when the bosses start to get Combo and AOE spam happy without letting you breathe. Heavily restricts your use of fable because a 3 fable would just blow up in your face.

[MMB]

Hyper armour would be to strong, entering a boss arena with a full fable bar with hyper armour plus 3 fable charges would obliterate the boss.