The oil age is CRUEL

[Sam the big Toucan]

Even when I got max speed buffs, its still so slow, that it gives me like 30 plasteel in an hour. What are these rates with THREE oil extractors?!

This is why I don't use weapons that cost plasteel as fuel. Its far to slow to obtain, and its torture to wait for it. Is there a faster way i can get it?

[_jp_]

Първоначално публикувано от Pokie!:

The base rate is 1 oil every 100 seconds and can be upgraded to roughly 1 per minute. That means 1 plasteel every 5 minutes. And yellow plasma cannon takes like 1100 to make. You're pretty much looking at something that takes days if not week to make if you don't exploit the multiple pumps per node or run oil rigs religiously or commit some genocide. So, yeah, the rate is just cruel compared to all other resources in the game.

Thats just stupid. Its endgame top tier weapon, you know. Beside if you don't use cheaty settings or mods chance to get blueprint for this is very low, so you need to farm it for a loooong time. And if make a base and start gather oil before you start farming for blueprint you get more than enough plasteel way before you get blueprint, unless you mod user or very lucky person.
Beside this is only problem for new game, as if you keep playing old save that have oil base you probably have alot oil by this point.
And from logical standpoint, plasmacannon not that much better, if you compare it to rocket launcher, so you can easly stick with rocket launcher before you get enough materials and blueprint for plasma cannon anyway.

[Porked!]

Първоначално публикувано от _jp_:

Thats just stupid. Its endgame top tier weapon, you know. Beside if you don't use cheaty settings or mods chance to get blueprint for this is very low, so you need to farm it for a loooong time. And if make a base and start gather oil before you start farming for blueprint you get more than enough plasteel way before you get blueprint, unless you mod user or very lucky person.
Beside this is only problem for new game, as if you keep playing old save that have oil base you probably have alot oil by this point.
And from logical standpoint, plasmacannon not that much better, if you compare it to rocket launcher, so you can easly stick with rocket launcher before you get enough materials and blueprint for plasma cannon anyway.

I think you missed the comparison to the rest of the resources. The next tier, hexolites, can be obtained far faster than plasteel. So much so that it's not worth making any plasteel stuff other than the bare minimum and just jump from pal metal straight to hexolite weapons and armors instead.

Besides, I regularly delete my old world and start a new one for each major update or when I feel like I got all the bosses/raid contents done for that save. I just enjoy the struggle of progressing through stuff - but not this way out of proportion of wait time.

[JackieTheDemon]

Първоначално публикувано от Mr. Stego:

Първоначално публикувано от markdb92:

get 4 lv 5 kindling pals and the gigantic Furnace. If you though that was slow wait till till you get the new bar to craft it takes even longer. Give the 4 souls and decent work speed traits to help.

Im saying the oil production is bad, not really the plasteel. There aint no pals to speed it up!

Първоначално публикувано от JackieTheDemon:

You can place 2 extractors on a single node. Research applies globally.

The 2 extractor bug on 1 node doesn't work anymore.

(Btw, i'm doing my farm on the West side of the volcano, with 3 nodes.)

Yes it does, I just did it.

[Ravness01]

Първоначално публикувано от Mr. Stego:

Първоначално публикувано от markdb92:

get 4 lv 5 kindling pals and the gigantic Furnace. If you though that was slow wait till till you get the new bar to craft it takes even longer. Give the 4 souls and decent work speed traits to help.

Im saying the oil production is bad, not really the plasteel. There aint no pals to speed it up!

Първоначално публикувано от JackieTheDemon:

You can place 2 extractors on a single node. Research applies globally.

The 2 extractor bug on 1 node doesn't work anymore.

(Btw, i'm doing my farm on the West side of the volcano, with 3 nodes.)

It does still work, I made a base in the volcano area(last night) and got 6 extractors placed in it on 3 nodes, made a base down in feybreak's area(last friday night) and got 4 more extractors down there as well on 2 nodes.

[Shrub]

Първоначално публикувано от Ravness01:

Първоначално публикувано от Mr. Stego:

Im saying the oil production is bad, not really the plasteel. There aint no pals to speed it up!


The 2 extractor bug on 1 node doesn't work anymore.

(Btw, i'm doing my farm on the West side of the volcano, with 3 nodes.)

It does still work, I made a base in the volcano area(last night) and got 6 extractors placed in it on 3 nodes, made a base down in feybreak's area(last friday night) and got 4 more extractors down there as well on 2 nodes.

Is that 2 nodes in one base? and if so, could you share the cords? I want to move there beyond farming hexolite but the singular oil nodes aren't very appealing.

[=яενєηąŋŧ=]

It seems bad when you're starting because the demand is heavily front-loaded, but after you get the big stuff out of the way you end up accumulating more than you know what to do with as you play. I've got 6 extractors up at the 3-node Volcano base and am actually considering downgrading to a 2-node base in Sakurajima just because it's prettier and much better for building. Add on that the semi-mandatory 3-Hexolite base has one node I've got another two on, or there's the alternate 2-Hexolite 2-Oil base depending on what you need.

Biggest QoL part of it is breeding up a Nocturnal Orserk with good crafting passives. A fully-condensed one with just Artisan and Work Slave can manage 6 extractors solo, even without Remarkable Craftsman.

[Mitrovarr]

It's got the same problem as most of the late-game stuff. It's so painful and expensive to get you don't want to use it, except maybe for armor. I'd rather just bury mobs under a mountain of legendary spheres, or use pal metal weapons instead of trying anything that burns plasteel for ammo, or whatever. I mean, hell, I've got plasteel but I'm still using the composite bow as my main weapon! Stuff is so expensive in the late game you don't want to even try it, except the armor, which is a safe investment.

[Ravness01]

Първоначално публикувано от Shrub:

Първоначално публикувано от Ravness01:

It does still work, I made a base in the volcano area(last night) and got 6 extractors placed in it on 3 nodes, made a base down in feybreak's area(last friday night) and got 4 more extractors down there as well on 2 nodes.

Is that 2 nodes in one base? and if so, could you share the cords? I want to move there beyond farming hexolite but the singular oil nodes aren't very appealing.

I was mistaken on the feybreak, we did 2 extractors on one node in 2 separate bases in feybreak, base areas we chose also had hexolite as well.

Feybreak Cords are:

-1068, -1427, this base is close to a dungeon entrance just jump off the cliff heading south west towards omascul, as well as being directly next to an anti-air tower(so if you want to fly just walk like 10 feet over to the tower from your base and disable it), has 1 oil node, has hexolite

-1169, -1274, this base location looks nice(is on the beach of the lake), has 1 oil node, has hexolite, gives easy access to several bosses

^both bases oil nodes can take 2 extractors.

Volcano Cords are:

-855, -453, this base has 3 oil nodes(all three can support 2 extractors but one of the nodes was a pain in the ass to get both extractors to snap on it), has dungeon entrances located both north and south of it, you will need a good electricity set up to run 6 extractors 24/7, oserks with a lot of batteries was how we did it).

^with the 3 above bases we(2 players) have 10 extractors working 24/7 and those produce more oil than we have any use for(i think in about 4 days of having it all up and running we ended up with something like 11k oil in the guild chest just sitting there.

Our last base location we run was at:
-984, -1321, this one is located inside a cave that spawns a chest and chromite spawns(4 spawns total), we had to build the base itself up off the floor(so the chromite would still spawn) by using support pillars, the base itself doesn't look pretty but works well enough for ranch/food production and gives easy access to chromite + occasional loot drops out of the chest.

[Sam the big Toucan]

Първоначално публикувано от Ravness01:

Първоначално публикувано от Shrub:

Is that 2 nodes in one base? and if so, could you share the cords? I want to move there beyond farming hexolite but the singular oil nodes aren't very appealing.

I was mistaken on the feybreak, we did 2 extractors on one node in 2 separate bases in feybreak, base areas we chose also had hexolite as well.

Feybreak Cords are:

-1068, -1427, this base is close to a dungeon entrance just jump off the cliff heading south west towards omascul, as well as being directly next to an anti-air tower(so if you want to fly just walk like 10 feet over to the tower from your base and disable it), has 1 oil node, has hexolite

-1169, -1274, this base location looks nice(is on the beach of the lake), has 1 oil node, has hexolite, gives easy access to several bosses

^both bases oil nodes can take 2 extractors.

Volcano Cords are:

-855, -453, this base has 3 oil nodes(all three can support 2 extractors but one of the nodes was a pain in the ass to get both extractors to snap on it), has dungeon entrances located both north and south of it, you will need a good electricity set up to run 6 extractors 24/7, oserks with a lot of batteries was how we did it).

^with the 3 above bases we(2 players) have 10 extractors working 24/7 and those produce more oil than we have any use for(i think in about 4 days of having it all up and running we ended up with something like 11k oil in the guild chest just sitting there.

Our last base location we run was at:
-984, -1321, this one is located inside a cave that spawns a chest and chromite spawns(4 spawns total), we had to build the base itself up off the floor(so the chromite would still spawn) by using support pillars, the base itself doesn't look pretty but works well enough for ranch/food production and gives easy access to chromite + occasional loot drops out of the chest.

So thats why I can't get 2 extractors on one node? My oil farm is at -855, -453 which is the Volcano spot with 3 nodes.

Първоначално публикувано от _jp_:

Първоначално публикувано от Pokie!:

The base rate is 1 oil every 100 seconds and can be upgraded to roughly 1 per minute. That means 1 plasteel every 5 minutes. And yellow plasma cannon takes like 1100 to make. You're pretty much looking at something that takes days if not week to make if you don't exploit the multiple pumps per node or run oil rigs religiously or commit some genocide. So, yeah, the rate is just cruel compared to all other resources in the game.

Thats just stupid. Its endgame top tier weapon, you know. Beside if you don't use cheaty settings or mods chance to get blueprint for this is very low, so you need to farm it for a loooong time. And if make a base and start gather oil before you start farming for blueprint you get more than enough plasteel way before you get blueprint, unless you mod user or very lucky person.
Beside this is only problem for new game, as if you keep playing old save that have oil base you probably have alot oil by this point.
And from logical standpoint, plasmacannon not that much better, if you compare it to rocket launcher, so you can easly stick with rocket launcher before you get enough materials and blueprint for plasma cannon anyway.

Thats 1 oil for 60 secounds for 1 extrator. And also don't forget that you need artisan helzypher luxes to the do job overnight, not orserks. Orserks just stop making eletricity when it hits nightime, and your oil rates get chowed down.

For me, I gained only roughly 300 plasteel in 8 hours. + another 6 hours would be another roughly 255-- oil. So in about 12 hours, as an estimate, I can get 500 plasteel.

So in 3 entire days with 3 oil extrators, I can get the yellow plasma cannon, but WOW. That is expensive.


For me, I can't beat Bjorn with the rocket launcher. Its to slow; not enough time even with 4 vanguard gobfins, attack pendant 3+, pyrin mount, and on just normal mode.

If you just beat hard mode Bjorn, your ether a "Just change world setting player🤓", or a true Palworld god.

[Padds]

Първоначално публикувано от JackieTheDemon:

You can place 2 extractors on a single node. Research applies globally.

never managed to do this

[JackieTheDemon]

Първоначално публикувано от Padds:

Първоначално публикувано от JackieTheDemon:

You can place 2 extractors on a single node. Research applies globally.

never managed to do this

Hold Ctrl and build on the very edge until it's tilted.

[Porked!]

Първоначално публикувано от Sam the big Toucan:

For me, I can't beat Bjorn with the rocket launcher. Its to slow; not enough time even with 4 vanguard gobfins, attack pendant 3+, pyrin mount, and on just normal mode.

If you just beat hard mode Bjorn, your ether a "Just change world setting player🤓", or a true Palworld god.

Bite the cost and get even just the common plasma cannon and keep blasting heads. That thing, the common one, can solo even Blazamut Ultra. Gotta have ~500+ player atk and matching elemental aaaaand pretty good aim for the head though.

[Grognak]

have you tried expeditions? with some strong pals and research you can run the hardest expeditions in well under 10 minutes.

[Ravness01]

For people struggling with the 2 extractor placement on one node, this is how I did it.

(I use a controller, but it'll work with keyboard and mouse as well).

Stand in the center of the oil node(it bubbles up and you can see the oil flowing outward from it).

Look at the rock formations around the node and find the one that sticks out the furthest from the center. Aim the cursor just above the tip of that rock formation and open the build menu and pick the extractor.

Slowly walk forward/backward until the extractor lights up blue, then look to see if the edge of the extractor is NOT covering the center of the node(this is important because if it is covering the center you need to reposition to get both extractors placed).

If the extractor is blue and the edge with the black/yellow caution markings is not covering the center of the node, snap it in place. Re-open the build menu(and make sure you do not move where the aiming cursor is positioned) and pick the extractor again and walk backwards while mashing X to place the second one(it helps if you're encumbered while doing this as you move slower).

Usually doing the above I can get them placed in 1 or 2 tries if the node is on flat ground, if the node is on an incline(like the southern most 3rd node in the volcano oil location) it takes more tries/attempts but it'll still work there as well if your patience holds out.

[Shrub]

I'll add that after multi-oiling on different nodes I've noticed that the same compass direction doesn't always work, so if one side of the node is fighting you, see if another side lets you push the extractor further from center.