Lawsuit for this is stupid

[Knight of Nyaa]

This proves if Nintendo can get away with suing Palworld imagine what will happen to any other indie studio that Nintendo finds to be using mechanics they claim to own.

[Sstavix]

Nintendo is just jealous they didn't think of it first.

On a more serious note, if Nintendo could have shut down Palworld they would have by now. Their own lawyers know they got nuthin', so they are resorting to these minor nitpicks instead. At least Pocketpair gets some free publicity out of it.

[The Field Marshal]

They can only get away with it for 20 years then all those "mechanics" they chose to patent will be public domain.

[Bigboss PC Faster]

Originally posted by The Field Marshal:

They can only get away with it for 20 years then all those "mechanics" they chose to patent will be public domain.

We will be in a nursing home by then.

[The Field Marshal]

Originally posted by Bigboss PC Faster:

Originally posted by The Field Marshal:

They can only get away with it for 20 years then all those "mechanics" they chose to patent will be public domain.

We will be in a nursing home by then.

Maybe but think of how many Pokemon like games will pop out the fist month those patents go public domain, scumtendo wont be able to do anything about it either.

[Joreel]

Originally posted by The Field Marshal:

They can only get away with it for 20 years then all those "mechanics" they chose to patent will be public domain.

Nintendo has over 8000 patients for games with that number growing monthly. If they really wanted to they could shutdown the entire gaming industry with lawsuits.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by Joreel:

Originally posted by The Field Marshal:

They can only get away with it for 20 years then all those "mechanics" they chose to patent will be public domain.

Nintendo has over 8000 patients for games with that number growing monthly. If they really wanted to they could shutdown the entire gaming industry with lawsuits.

And most of those patents are expired.

Heck, every patent on Pokemon Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire are now fully expired and cannot be renewed. Their mechanics are now public domain.
(And after next year, that will include Diamond/Pearl, too)

And it's doubtful they could go that far, or they would have long before now.
Nintendo's power isn't as great as people are thinking, and eventually the government or other corporations push back.
Bear in mind Nintendo has lost lawsuits, even in Japan. So they don't just "auto-win" a lawsuit, even in that country.

[Joreel]

Originally posted by funewchie:

Originally posted by Joreel:

Nintendo has over 8000 patients for games with that number growing monthly. If they really wanted to they could shutdown the entire gaming industry with lawsuits.

And most of those patents are expired.

Heck, every patent on Pokemon Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire are now fully expired and cannot be renewed. Their mechanics are now public domain.
(And after next year, that will include Diamond/Pearl, too)

And it's doubtful they could go that far, or they would have long before now.
Nintendo's power isn't as great as people are thinking, and eventually the government or other corporations push back.
Bear in mind Nintendo has lost lawsuits, even in Japan. So they don't just "auto-win" a lawsuit, even in that country.

They renew their parents regularly in Japan and if need be alter it slightly to get it approved.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by Joreel:

Originally posted by funewchie:

And most of those patents are expired.

Heck, every patent on Pokemon Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire are now fully expired and cannot be renewed. Their mechanics are now public domain.
(And after next year, that will include Diamond/Pearl, too)

And it's doubtful they could go that far, or they would have long before now.
Nintendo's power isn't as great as people are thinking, and eventually the government or other corporations push back.
Bear in mind Nintendo has lost lawsuits, even in Japan. So they don't just "auto-win" a lawsuit, even in that country.

They renew their parents regularly in Japan and if need be alter it slightly to get it approved.

Patents have a 20 year maximum.
Now, they can expire sooner if not maintained through renewing, which Nintendo does take care of.
But once those 20 years have passed, that's it.

Additionally, registering a patent has about a one-year grace period from the time you started releasing your product.
So Nintendo can't go back and register a brand-new patent for a game made 4+ years ago, for example.
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Now copyrights, yeah, those are a whole other can of worms with loopholes and such.

[NIkto Barada]

this might be bc palworlds using ex nintendo char devs. in a few years the rights to the oldest poke designs will revert to them.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by NIkto Barada:

this might be bc palworlds using ex nintendo char devs. in a few years the rights to the oldest poke designs will revert to them.

This is a patent lawsuit, not copyright.
Designs mean literally nothing.

The lawsuit is over game mechanics (on patents registered several months after Palworld launched).

[SHOVEL.EXE]

Originally posted by Knight of Nyaa:

This proves if Nintendo can get away with suing Palworld imagine what will happen to any other indie studio that Nintendo finds to be using mechanics they claim to own.

your scope too small.
gaming as a hole will crash and burn if nintendo win.
some greedy ass-hat will copy them and patent something super basic to, like a jump button.
then another will do the same.
then another...
until nobody can make game n'or sell it. not even Nintendo.

i know i'm exaggerating. but the mere idea of this Pandora box, this can of worms, this domino effect scares me to death.

+ i would like to add that Nintendo are HUGE hypocrite. they have say themselves they bend inspired by other game. palworld no different.
inspiration led to creativity. fix what old and clunky, improving what already there or giving it a new twist and sometime why fixing something if its not broken.
Nintendo is ignoring what effectively "basic innovation 101" for there ego and greed.

[Joreel]

Originally posted by funewchie:

Originally posted by Joreel:

They renew their parents regularly in Japan and if need be alter it slightly to get it approved.

Patents have a 20 year maximum.
Now, they can expire sooner if not maintained through renewing, which Nintendo does take care of.
But once those 20 years have passed, that's it.

Additionally, registering a patent has about a one-year grace period from the time you started releasing your product.
So Nintendo can't go back and register a brand-new patent for a game made 4+ years ago, for example.
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Now copyrights, yeah, those are a whole other can of worms with loopholes and such.

we know they can't patients games after the fact, we're talking about game mechanics and design mechanics for a game such as using an object to hide or double Jumping, or in PalWorld's case the throwing and releasing mechanics. Try to keep up please.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by Joreel:

Originally posted by funewchie:

Patents have a 20 year maximum.
Now, they can expire sooner if not maintained through renewing, which Nintendo does take care of.
But once those 20 years have passed, that's it.

Additionally, registering a patent has about a one-year grace period from the time you started releasing your product.
So Nintendo can't go back and register a brand-new patent for a game made 4+ years ago, for example.
---

Now copyrights, yeah, those are a whole other can of worms with loopholes and such.

we know they can't patients games after the fact, we're talking about game mechanics and design mechanics for a game such as using an object to hide or double Jumping, or in PalWorld's case the throwing and releasing mechanics. Try to keep up please.

Yes, and again, they can't patent something like that twenty-some years after bloody Mario has done it, their own product.

And I am talking about game mechanics.
(there's no such thing as "design mechanics", that's copyright you're going on about. Pay attention.)

[Amatsu]

Originally posted by NIkto Barada:

this might be bc palworlds using ex nintendo char devs. in a few years the rights to the oldest poke designs will revert to them.

Source for your claim? This also is not a copyright lawsuit: those basically never expire effectively under current laws.

[billyhatcher643]

Originally posted by Knight of Nyaa:

This proves if Nintendo can get away with suing Palworld imagine what will happen to any other indie studio that Nintendo finds to be using mechanics they claim to own.

nintendo being jelly like always constantly abusing the patent system to ruin small indie devs or ruin fangames this is why nintendo should be scorned all the time for their stupidity and evilness and their ceo currently is bowser for gods sake