Is the laser rifle worth ?

[Mini Mushrum]

I feel like the cartridges are expensive due to the electric organs needed
Unless one cartridge equals multiple shots ?

Otherwise I can't possibly why i would use it, the rocket launcher does a ton of damages + cheap ammos

[memento616]

Kinda depends on what you're looking for in a weapon. The laser rifle has almost double the dps compared to the rocket launcher (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPPFR5wLJg ). I guess mainly because of the atrocious reload speed of the rocket launcher.
But the laser rifle doesn't deal aoe-dmg, so if you wanna kill groups of enemies, the rocket launcher would be the better option. For single target, the laser rifle is a lot better

[Mini Mushrum]

Originally posted by memento616:

Kinda depends on what you're looking for in a weapon. The laser rifle has almost double the dps compared to the rocket launcher (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPPFR5wLJg ). I guess mainly because of the atrocious reload speed of the rocket launcher.
But the laser rifle doesn't deal aoe-dmg, so if you wanna kill groups of enemies, the rocket launcher would be the better option. For single target, the laser rifle is a lot better

Hmm looks better for single target for sure yeah.. Still it remains very expensive

On another topic : I just built oil extractors.. They take SO LONG.

Is there a way to boost this process ?

[memento616]

Originally posted by Mini Mushrum:

Originally posted by memento616:

Kinda depends on what you're looking for in a weapon. The laser rifle has almost double the dps compared to the rocket launcher (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPPFR5wLJg ). I guess mainly because of the atrocious reload speed of the rocket launcher.
But the laser rifle doesn't deal aoe-dmg, so if you wanna kill groups of enemies, the rocket launcher would be the better option. For single target, the laser rifle is a lot better

Hmm looks better for single target for sure yeah.. Still it remains very expensive

On another topic : I just built oil extractors.. They take SO LONG.

Is there a way to boost this process ?

Oil production is really slow, yeah. With a little fiddling around you can get 2 extractors on one oil node, this helps. Also you can boost the production speed by (I think) 60% in the Research Laboratory. I think the boost for oil was in the Mining category

[Mini Mushrum]

Interesting, i'll get that, thanks !

[Zeo]

It's good, especially if you don't have patience for rare equip hunt, the only "problem" are the ammo price (electric organs) but Palworld introduced many ways to make money.

[Flügel]

Originally posted by Mini Mushrum:

On another topic : I just built oil extractors.. They take SO LONG.

On oil production, been a while so I might be missing something. Helps to choose base locations carefully. At least one base on the volcano island with 3 extractor locations. Slap 2 extractors on each. Do the same for other bases, though going to have to be content with 2 extractor locations for others.

Likely different now with new buildings/passives/etc, but 2 fully condensed Orserk with work speed and nocturnal passives ran 6 extractors without a hitch. It's a big time investment, but at a certain point in the game you should really be looking to maxing out base pals if you're trying to advance. (Don't know if it's still the case, but used to be lots of people complaining about electricity production. You get more than you need by maxing pals, but as mentioned, major time investment.)

[tikiman572]

Laser Rifle is fairly decent. There's barely any recoil with the shots and you have 30 shots to take before having to reload. And the reload is fairly quick to boot. The cost to make the ammo can be brutal, though, so that really is its main drawback.

[Simple Tora]

Make a ranch base and fill every single ranch in it with Mau and Vixy to have some money generation on the side before you get the money press

[Porked!]

Originally posted by Flügel:

On oil production, been a while so I might be missing something. Helps to choose base locations carefully. At least one base on the volcano island with 3 extractor locations. Slap 2 extractors on each. Do the same for other bases, though going to have to be content with 2 extractor locations for others.

Likely different now with new buildings/passives/etc, but 2 fully condensed Orserk with work speed and nocturnal passives ran 6 extractors without a hitch. It's a big time investment, but at a certain point in the game you should really be looking to maxing out base pals if you're trying to advance. (Don't know if it's still the case, but used to be lots of people complaining about electricity production. You get more than you need by maxing pals, but as mentioned, major time investment.)

You can also dump some random 10-15 Helzephyr Lux into that 6-extractor base and they'll easily take care of that. I was going to try and upgrade them but I saw that 4 generators were full all the time so I just left them alone. Costs a bit more food than a pair of Orzerks but not much of a problem when there's a farm base pumping out 1200 minestrone daily.

[Davestiii]

You can buy organs from town vendor north west of the starting area (sorry forgot the name) just capture him and bring him to your base so you have an infinity supply of organs for ammo.

As for the gold farming, you either set alot of peoples into Iron ore so you can make gold with the gold crafting table or you simply take out the trader lvl 50 near every church. Tp take him out tp to another church take him out then go back to the previous one and he should already be back. They drop around 15 k + on normal setting.

You can also start breeding those chest doggy and then kill them for gold and dog coin.

[Titanium Jesus]

Short answer is HELL NO.

The thing has a little spread so you still can't go beyond medium range if you want head shots, the ammo is UNGODLY expensive (though once you unlock the mint this is moot). It has no auto fire. Especially if you get a blue or purple combat shotgun, the laser rifle is completely outclassed damage wise. The only thing it has going for it is the quick reload.

At least the thing isn't anywhere near as worthless as the flamethrower...

Originally posted by Flügel:

On oil production, been a while so I might be missing something. Helps to choose base locations carefully. At least one base on the volcano island with 3 extractor locations. Slap 2 extractors on each...)

Placing 2 on one node can't even be done with pixel-perfect placement. I can only think you've done this with a glych as even the tutorials for it aren't even close to getting it to work.

[AquaX]

Crude oil can be gotten in multiple ways.

1st is the extractor but that reqs decent pwr setup to hold out until you get enough materials to research the increased production spd.

2nd is expedition. With enough high lvl pals that are fully condensed, it takes very little time to deploy them and return with the oil. Note for this to work, you must be able to beat certain tower leaders in their norm or hard mode version.

3rd only works if you are in a single player. You reduce the supply drop and constantly farm the oil until you get tired of it.

[Flügel]

Originally posted by Poked!:

You can also dump some random 10-15 Helzephyr Lux into that 6-extractor base and they'll easily take care of that.

Oh, for sure. I was looking at it from perspective of trying to save slots for more base pals. If you're fine having a base dedicated to just producing electricity, or just changing the settings to allow more pals at base, just dumping decently high electricity producing pals works great.

Originally posted by Titanium Jesus:

Placing 2 on one node can't even be done with pixel-perfect placement. I can only think you've done this with a glych as even the tutorials for it aren't even close to getting it to work.

Is this a recent change? If not, you were totally able to do it when oil was released. You'll find plenty of YouTube videos of people doing it. Did take some finangling, but it wasn't all that tough after you got a feel for it.

If it was changed at some point, well, that sucks. To me it was always one of those, "it's a feature, not a bug" things.

[Shrub]

By the time I unlocked the laser rifle, I immediately bought 6000 ammo worth of electric pals and it didn't dent my funds at all. By hexolite, I'm down to 1300. If you want that, your goal is to mass-produce Legendary Spheres, which are the most lucrative money venture you can pursue (even beyond the coin machines).

While you can purchase all the materials and still profit, I recommend putting:

• Dumud
  
• Kelpsea

into the ranch. Vixy gives you bones, but the RNG is terrible so don't use it for money at all to be frank. Buy these materials with Fine Furs / Noble pals. Go breed them.

Additionally, dedicate an entire base to rock-mining. 12~15 digtoise are fine until you can catch Blazamuts/Astegon around Lv. 40~50+. The amount is relative to how fast you need rocks.

Additionally, ensure your farm base is constantly grinding paldium during your water-pals downtime. Ideally you want better suitability like the above, so backthrow Jormuntides or breed with say, Relaxaurus X Quivern if you don't mind waiting a day. Personally, I've always caught these pals before the breeding could finish but YMMV.

For oil, use the double extractor method. Search my username and oil in the forum, I've linked videos before that still work no matter what people keep saying this update, it's just REALLY precise but super easy once you understand. You can also hunt pals like Kikit. Personally I've never had to do this one; I'm parroting the forums.

... Is the laser rifle worth it though? Absolutely, particularly because the ammo is so cheap once you deploy this tactic. Even repairing the Lv. 3 Rifle is like, 7 ancient parts? So cheap to use...

P.S, make sure you're utilizing the expedition station!!!! I spam Forest 24/7 because it's the fastest and most rewarding until every other expedition can be done in ~2 minutes. You can spam research for faster oil.

[Porked!]

Originally posted by Flügel:

Oh, for sure. I was looking at it from perspective of trying to save slots for more base pals. If you're fine having a base dedicated to just producing electricity, or just changing the settings to allow more pals at base, just dumping decently high electricity producing pals works great.

Aye. Mine is from a perspective of dedicated base. Kinda not a volcanic scenery person so I'd put down some pumps and dump a few stack of food and forget that it ever existed.

Originally posted by Flügel:

Is this a recent change? If not, you were totally able to do it when oil was released. You'll find plenty of YouTube videos of people doing it. Did take some finangling, but it wasn't all that tough after you got a feel for it.

If it was changed at some point, well, that sucks. To me it was always one of those, "it's a feature, not a bug" things.

Double extractor can still be placed as of right now. Same amount of fidgety as usual.