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Palworld

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dre[A]m Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:21pm
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holy crap, nintendo is gonna sue the crap out of them
this is so obviously a pokemon rip-off, when's the lawsuit?

i mean i LOVE the look of this game, but there's no way it makes it into publication, right?
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At best, Nintendo knows they would lose and doesn't bother.

At worst, Nintendo loses in court by parody defense.
Xherdos Aug 13, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Another post...
Zinkr7x Aug 13, 2023 @ 2:36am 
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-Doesn't violate copyright, Nintendo has no claims to cease and desist them nor sue them.
-Only one of the designs is close enough to even be argued in court, the one that looks like Luxray. Nintendo would lose that copyright battle even if they tried.
-Any other design would be legitimately laughed out of court. You need something more than the bare minimum of similarities to consider something a ripoff
-Nintendo's been in similar situations as Palworld, and has won, so they know very well if they tried to sue Palworld they'd lose.
-You also don't want Nintendo to be able to do that. Would give Nintendo a monopoly on monster raising games.
Red Bat Aug 16, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
They'd have less of a case than you'd think. The bar for that type of lawsuit is actually really high. Pretty sure it's something like "It has to be almost indistinguishable" and then there's a bunch of extra criteria it has to meet and some criteria it has to not meet like having a design that would have been easy to come up with independently.
Zinkr7x Aug 16, 2023 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by Red Bat Media:
They'd have less of a case than you'd think. The bar for that type of lawsuit is actually really high. Pretty sure it's something like "It has to be almost indistinguishable" and then there's a bunch of extra criteria it has to meet and some criteria it has to not meet like having a design that would have been easy to come up with independently.

They would essentially need to prove
A. The designs are practically identical, or near indistinguishable as you said.
AND
B. They directly took the idea from Pokemon.
OR
A. Prove that Palworld contains Pokemon's work in it. (i.e. they directly ripped a model and changed it from there as an example, not that they looked at a Pokemon for reference and made their own creature)

As you said, it's an extremely high bar to prove
l Aug 24, 2023 @ 6:20am 
lol
Neon Sep 15, 2023 @ 6:56am 
They definitely took heavy inspiration from Pokemon, however they didn't actually copy anything though.

At least just looking from the trailer.
🦈Ryu♆ Sep 16, 2023 @ 3:26am 
Any pokemon fan can see all these pokemon fusions lol. I am gonna play this game for sure but seen so many pokemon fusions in the trailer or at least it feels like that . Reshiram + Zoroark, Garvedoir + Liligant , Minicco + Leafeon , Meganium + Goodra and some more. xD . But I dont care. I love monster collecting games anyway.
Aerond Sep 17, 2023 @ 10:11am 
So, Nintendo has the rights for any 'collecting monster' idea?
Orlyy Sep 18, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
How did temtem make it out alive then? Nothing is going to happen.
Cain Sep 19, 2023 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by Orlyy:
How did temtem make it out alive then? Nothing is going to happen.
in temtem the creatures not this closely resemble Pokemon, pokeball is replaced by cards etc. Even as an inexperienced Pokemon TCG player I recognized at least 5 creatures from the trailer alone, and those look lie carbon copies. WotC sued (and won) against companies for less close copies abut MTG.
Zinkr7x Sep 20, 2023 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by Cain:
Originally posted by Orlyy:
How did temtem make it out alive then? Nothing is going to happen.
in temtem the creatures not this closely resemble Pokemon, pokeball is replaced by cards etc. Even as an inexperienced Pokemon TCG player I recognized at least 5 creatures from the trailer alone, and those look lie carbon copies. WotC sued (and won) against companies for less close copies abut MTG.
That has to do with trademarks, not copyright, and appears to be wildly different, at least the most recent one I found. If something merely resembles MTG, they would not be able to sue, that would give them a monopoly on card games.
The designs, A, with the exception of the Luxray looking one solely, are not anywhere near "carbon copies" and that would be laughed out of court. (And you even noted as such because you said the word "resembles" which is absolutely not enough.)
ONLY the Luxray would maybe potentially have a case, and it still would be legally sound by all prior forms of copyright.
Zinkr7x Sep 20, 2023 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Ryu:
Any pokemon fan can see all these pokemon fusions lol. I am gonna play this game for sure but seen so many pokemon fusions in the trailer or at least it feels like that . Reshiram + Zoroark, Garvedoir + Liligant , Minicco + Leafeon , Meganium + Goodra and some more. xD . But I dont care. I love monster collecting games anyway.
This is probably one of the most insane comments I've seen on the subject. First off, Meganinum & Goodra? Absolutely crazy. First off, Lilligant and Goodra, cause the flower is on the head, second off a "fusion" is way more than just "this is the shape of goodra and the color of meganium" I at least kinda get the Goodra thing, but if you pointed at that and said "that's Meganium" or even "that's Lilligant" people would look as you as insane. And I don't mean this in a mean way, or at least I don't want to be mean, that's just how off the rocker your statement really is. If the world looked like that, ya couldn't have a green creature with it's flower on it's body because it to the loosest degree it resembles Meganium?? You couldn't just not have a Pokemon-like game, you couldn't even have a game. Pokemon would single handedly lock away all designs of any creature.

Looking at it from an actual copyright perspective, taking elements of existing Pokemon and creating something new with a combination would definitely be perfectly legal and not violating copyright, unless you literally took bits of their art and combined it together.
Ryvaku Sep 21, 2023 @ 2:36am 
If Nintendo was smart it would give the players this, but they won't because they are garbage company that cannot think outside the box. Old people.
Zinkr7x Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Ryvaku:
If Nintendo was smart it would give the players this, but they won't because they are garbage company that cannot think outside the box. Old people.
Yea as a Pokemon fan, I don't want Nintendo to give us this. And that would be one of the worst moves they could do for their Pokemon brand. That would destroy so much of what they have built. Pokemon is one of the top selling game series of all times, I don't think you should be calling Nintendo dumb for where they have Pokemon.
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