Palworld
Straight up rip off pokemon models in similarity.
Nintendo will be watching your game for sure lol
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από KishiPhio:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Zinkr7x:
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Okay so I did a bit of search, and indeed I can't see your goblins because there are goblins already in the game which do not resemble bokoblins, yes. All I've seen is that in the trailer (I played on the first days of the game so I checked the trailer to see the new things) There is however two mobs in the trailer that are OBVIOUSLY ripped off TLOZ BOTW and TOTK, which I do not seem to find in the wiki for some reason, even one that's a Lynel but instead has two legs instead of a centaur... The 'lynel' thing could pass, but add that with bokoblins and Moblins ? No. Stop. I don't know if they're in the game but that's bad.

And next your 'dragon'. You are telling me. That of ANY Dragon in the history of humanity.
They HAD.
To take the exact same bodytype as Latias. What a f*cking coincidence.
There's wyverns, almost dinosaur like, to serpents, snakes, Chinese Dragons, European dragons, Snake deities from mayan and all over the globe
AND YOU TELL ME that they had the exact same idea for bodytype... As Latias. And if you cannot see the resemblance, I can't do much else.

Also, you saying I have no knowledge of 3D modelling ? From what standpoint are you on ?
Did I say they broke into Nintendo, stole their pcs, and took their assets ? Never. A model being 'ripped' off another one doesn't have to be litterally.

Again please read this -> I'm not saying they should be sued, they can't in fact because names aren't the same and bodytype are 'slightly' altered, But how bad do you have to be as a Company, to allow such things to pass through. In TWO games at that.

If you cannot see resemblance in both the trailer of Craftopia, and in Jetragon, then this conversation is done.

Okay I pulled up the trailer, I apologize on the Moblins and Boblokins. Those ones ARE really close, I see what you mean now. Although the Boblokin is different enough but very similar, the Moblin I had to straight up look up because it looked like it was identical (it's not, this is like the Boltsmane here where it's pretty damn close)

The body type is the only reason I think they might have looked at Latios/Latias (and yes, they could have also not looked at those two and came up with the same concept, that's not unheard of). Regardless, doesn't really matter. You can't own a body type. Why is it okay for them to take the body types of the other dragons you noted and that's not a copy but the whole jet dragon thing is automatically them ripping off Latios/Latias? And their execution of the Jet Dragon here is well well different, it's just not close at all. Like you're never confusing Jetragon with Latios or Latias, ever, whereas Boltsmane, and the Moblins and Boblokins you pointed out, you very well might mistake them for the other. And for the record, it is literally fine to look at Latios and Latias and go "I wanna do that, but my way", that's the reason copyright laws are the way they are. And Jetragon is just very obviously different.

They would need the asset to ripoff the model, almost certainly the models were made from scratch based on concept art.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Zinkr7x:

Okay I pulled up the trailer, I apologize on the Moblins and Boblokins. Those ones ARE really close, I see what you mean now. Although the Boblokin is different enough but very similar, the Moblin I had to straight up look up because it looked like it was identical (it's not, this is like the Boltsmane here where it's pretty damn close)

The body type is the only reason I think they might have looked at Latios/Latias (and yes, they could have also not looked at those two and came up with the same concept, that's not unheard of). Regardless, doesn't really matter. You can't own a body type. Why is it okay for them to take the body types of the other dragons you noted and that's not a copy but the whole jet dragon thing is automatically them ripping off Latios/Latias? And their execution of the Jet Dragon here is well well different, it's just not close at all. Like you're never confusing Jetragon with Latios or Latias, ever, whereas Boltsmane, and the Moblins and Boblokins you pointed out, you very well might mistake them for the other. And for the record, it is literally fine to look at Latios and Latias and go "I wanna do that, but my way", that's the reason copyright laws are the way they are. And Jetragon is just very obviously different.

They would need the asset to ripoff the model, almost certainly the models were made from scratch based on concept art.

Inspiration and copying is a fine line, I get that.
However, saying why would it be okay to copy other types of dragons instead of Pokémon's Latias is not a good example. You're comparing myths and legends, forever free of copyrights (They are just monsters, which applies to goblins as well, which is why goblins are fine to copy since they're universal, Bokoblins and Moblins however are NOT universal.) to a copyrighted pokémon...

By the way, you do NOT need the assets to copy something, that's dumb thinking. Otherwise, why would any artist have watermarks on their works ? You don't need what program was used, materials or anything else as long as the result is the same.
Doing something from scratch does not mean you will not infringe on copyright territory.

I can litterally tell you what changed from Latias to Jetragon, but let's not get to that as you do not see the resemblance, which I get.

The point is, I see a resemblance to Latias, and you noticed Boltsmane as well. I get that trying to avoid HEAVY inspiration from Pokémons is hard, it's just that, being the same devs as Craftopia (Same company, probably not devs though), I just hope they'll make something unique, and not copy stuff left and right with no soul.

They do have some, at least, cool designs in the trailers and I hope they'll continue this way.
I've just been going through the discussions for this board and its insane how many people don't know copyright laws.
You know that you can download digimons from nintendo store right? If so, then why would they care about this game
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mikedot:
People actually get upset when being told "touch grass"?

It just means go outside.
Get some fresh air.
Leave the confines of your room.
Disconnect.
Stop being terminally online.

It's good for your soul every now and again.

When someone tells me "Go touch grass", I say "Thanks, I will" or "Already did. You should do same." It's actually good advice.
^^ lol true bro
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ZNation:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mikedot:
People actually get upset when being told "touch grass"?

It just means go outside.
Get some fresh air.
Leave the confines of your room.
Disconnect.
Stop being terminally online.

It's good for your soul every now and again.

When someone tells me "Go touch grass", I say "Thanks, I will" or "Already did. You should do same." It's actually good advice.
^^ lol true bro
Im one step ahead of you. i made myself a green screen so im always outside while still in my room :P
Unless Palworld directly steal designs and/or assets from Pokémon, Nintendo can't do anything to stop them. Sure the monster designs go for a more Pokémon/Ken Sugimori art style, but you cannot own an art style. Actually, I'm glad Palworld is designing their monsters more after Pokémon, because I think this the biggest issue with most monster collecting games that go for the Pokémon formula: the monsters design are straight up bad. They are often cluttered, or too simple, aren't appealing. Pokémon continues to succeed because the character designs are A+, because the games are all terrible RPGs.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mikedot:
People actually get upset when being told "touch grass"?

It just means go outside.
Get some fresh air.
Leave the confines of your room.
Disconnect.
Stop being terminally online.

It's good for your soul every now and again.

When someone tells me "Go touch grass", I say "Thanks, I will" or "Already did. You should do same." It's actually good advice.

It's an insult coming from redditors. It just means "You have a different opinion so I think you are a basement dweller."
But the gameplay is VERY different, so the lawsuit is probably a non starter.

"It's parody, the gameplay and story is different, and they're also based on real animals, which pokemon are based on. We also make NO claims to be pokemon and no claims to be associated with pokemon."
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Hariman:
But the gameplay is VERY different, so the lawsuit is probably a non starter.

"It's parody, the gameplay and story is different, and they're also based on real animals, which pokemon are based on. We also make NO claims to be pokemon and no claims to be associated with pokemon."

It's not even parody, nor would they need to rely on parody laws to back 'em up 'cause they're already legally sound from a copyright angle. (but parody would probably do it too yea)
Im more okay of Palworld in its choice of creatures, because they atleast not using the same models on all of them. Unlike Craftopia that had alot of assets used from other games that litteraly looks like they took the model or asset from a game and gave no f*ck about it.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Nitro Toxico; 2 Αυγ 2023, 16:49
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nitro Toxico:
Im more okay of Palworld in its choice of creatures, because they atleast not using the same models on all of them. Unlike Craftopia that had alot of assets used from other games that litteraly looks like they took the model or asset from a game and gave no f*ck about it.
Neither game uses assets from other games (unless they use open source assets, if they even use anything open source, but based on your comment, that's not what you're talking about.)
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Zinkr7x:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nitro Toxico:
Im more okay of Palworld in its choice of creatures, because they atleast not using the same models on all of them. Unlike Craftopia that had alot of assets used from other games that litteraly looks like they took the model or asset from a game and gave no f*ck about it.
Neither game uses assets from other games (unless they use open source assets, if they even use anything open source, but based on your comment, that's not what you're talking about.)
Well it could be open source assets, but the fact it made me instantly go "this looks like from-" every minute, does not paint the picture of a good game, when the stuff thats in Craftopia has about 60-80% of the assets looking exactly something from games you know of.
Palworld atleast looks more unique as possible, minus ofcourse the guns. The capture balls are not exactly the same, since they capture differently in animation then what you know in pokemon.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Nitro Toxico; 6 Αυγ 2023, 1:54
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mikedot:
People actually get upset when being told "touch grass"?

It just means go outside.
Get some fresh air.
Leave the confines of your room.
Disconnect.
Stop being terminally online.

It's good for your soul every now and again.

When someone tells me "Go touch grass", I say "Thanks, I will" or "Already did. You should do same." It's actually good advice.

No need to feign- its an insult. Not advice. As it implies, strongly, one never does leave there room, disconnect, or is terminally online. Which, is a rude assumption, often without evidence. No need to pretend its a nice thing to say, when its obviously said out of hatred and not out of respect or helpfulness.
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Also- I agree with the people saying- these characters look like Pokemon rip offs- as, the art style looks idenitcal- the eye shapes, body shapes, colors, even the way mouths look and grins, some of these look like-- "Hey you know X pokemon, redraw them with enough difference to make them no longer copyrightable by Nintendo, but, clearly, make them that pokemon"... Basically like making a character called Bat Guy, and changing batman's logo, but all else is the same, kinda deal.

I'll tell you what- I clicked this because I thought it was a Pokemon coming to Steam, then squitned and looked closer and was like--- oh no... Those aren't pokemon.


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Let's just say- its completely possible to make a monster catching and fighting game, without making those monsters 1-to-1 Pokemon. Inspiration is fine, but...this isn't inspiration at this level, its..,dang near tracing.
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Liz-with-a-Smile:
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mikedot:
People actually get upset when being told "touch grass"?

It just means go outside.
Get some fresh air.
Leave the confines of your room.
Disconnect.
Stop being terminally online.

It's good for your soul every now and again.

When someone tells me "Go touch grass", I say "Thanks, I will" or "Already did. You should do same." It's actually good advice.

No need to feign- its an insult. Not advice. As it implies, strongly, one never does leave there room, disconnect, or is terminally online. Which, is a rude assumption, often without evidence. No need to pretend its a nice thing to say, when its obviously said out of hatred and not out of respect or helpfulness.
--

Also- I agree with the people saying- these characters look like Pokemon rip offs- as, the art style looks idenitcal- the eye shapes, body shapes, colors, even the way mouths look and grins, some of these look like-- "Hey you know X pokemon, redraw them with enough difference to make them no longer copyrightable by Nintendo, but, clearly, make them that pokemon"... Basically like making a character called Bat Guy, and changing batman's logo, but all else is the same, kinda deal.

I'll tell you what- I clicked this because I thought it was a Pokemon coming to Steam, then squitned and looked closer and was like--- oh no... Those aren't pokemon.


---

Let's just say- its completely possible to make a monster catching and fighting game, without making those monsters 1-to-1 Pokemon. Inspiration is fine, but...this isn't inspiration at this level, its..,dang near tracing.

It's not anywhere near tracing. Nowhere close. If games had to follow those types of standards, there would be like 5 total games.
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