Palworld

Palworld

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McpCosmO Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:42pm
STOP ruining Games Nintendo
#nomorenintendo

to me they can take their switch2 and go to unholy ground..
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Duilf Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by GenghisKun:
Originally posted by Irene ❤:
It's one of the 100,000+ people who watched the same video but on different date making the same topic because they are now educated and very smart to boycott Nintendo. /s

Palworld does indeed copied pokemon's creature throw concept. It got sued not just by Nintendo but by 3 joint venture companies Pokemon Group (Game Freak, Creatures). It is a copycat to so many people's hardwork.

They have been very generous. Ball throw is fine, distancing ball throw to catch a pal is fine, you can still use those concepts and you can keep your balls, just not distance summoning of a creature. At least let them keep this as their unique selling point. Fair enough?

There is not much difference or impact to the game. Your pals can run forward and attack. Unless the noob kept on recalling and throwing the pal endlessly. Good players focus on dodging and pal is just a very small (and weak) sidekick. That's what palworld is truly about. You have to worry about crafting your ammo, shield and gliding speed.

There will be a lightsaber weapon in the next big patch coming in 6 days. Close range attack is the new meta. Summoning a pal near you is the better way. If it's still not fun, then use distance throw items such as grenade or propose ideas such as decoy throws. Is it really that hard to just stop throwing pals as a nearby punching bag? Must palworld or the player insist on using the 3 companies' formula? Then who is the real evil in video game industry?

Competition makes for better ideas, that´s always better for the consumer. Suing the mechanics is a new low for them. Considering they are the billion dollar company pushing down on the new devs. Whatever happens they are losing some face and customers. The real move was to learn from Palworld, and make better products with their infinite budget. But i guess theres no real desire to improve left in them.

Don't take Irene seriously. They are here to stir the pot, and I highly doubt they are serious.
tigerfestival1988 Dec 16, 2024 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Duilf:
Originally posted by GenghisKun:

Competition makes for better ideas, that´s always better for the consumer. Suing the mechanics is a new low for them. Considering they are the billion dollar company pushing down on the new devs. Whatever happens they are losing some face and customers. The real move was to learn from Palworld, and make better products with their infinite budget. But i guess theres no real desire to improve left in them.

Don't take Irene seriously. They are here to stir the pot, and I highly doubt they are serious.
Hence why Irene is going onto my block list, since they seem to be nothing more than a troll.
Originally posted by Captain Tripps:
Yeah. well it IS a PC Forum.
That's... literally my point. What point are you trying to make?
Did you think I was talking about consoles or something? :LaughingOwlcat:
Frankly, I think your initial response was made just for the sake of eristics.
Last edited by Bloodwyrm Wildheart; Dec 16, 2024 @ 8:40pm
Sanquin Dec 16, 2024 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by GenghisKun:
Competition makes for better ideas, that´s always better for the consumer. Suing the mechanics is a new low for them. Considering they are the billion dollar company pushing down on the new devs. Whatever happens they are losing some face and customers. The real move was to learn from Palworld, and make better products with their infinite budget. But i guess theres no real desire to improve left in them.

If Nintendo already had a patent on the ball mechanic it would be fair enough for them so sue, imo. I wouldn't like it, as it stifles innovation. But they'd be in their right to do so.

My issue with it is that they only VERY recently filed that patent. After Palworld went into early access. And at that point it's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as far as I'm concerned. It shouldn't be possible to file a patent for something multiple different companies (or in this case, games) are already using. It's just a clear abuse of the copyright system.
BlairiesTTV Dec 16, 2024 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by McpCosmO:
#nomorenintendo

to me they can take their switch2 and go to unholy ground..
"A bitter pill for you to swallow"

You could convince every single person on these palworld forums to never touch a nintendo product again. The fact remains that it will never go noticed in Nintendos sheer numbers and charts. Not enough people care or even know what nintendo is doing to PP

You could limit yourself and never touch a nintendo product again if that morally makes you feel better. but thats all you'll ever get out of it. They have gotten away with selling old games at full price for decades. It's a greedy company and youre not even its target audience.

Sadly while i do shame Nintendo. Pocket Pair did fly a bit too close to the sun knowing how Nintendo is. If i recall one of the artist on the team did complain that a lot of their ideas were shafted to make them look much closer to Pokemon counterparts (Anubis is quiet literally Lucario)

and while i completely disagree with what Nintendo is doing to play devils advocate PP didnt exactly go about this correctly ether.


Now you have tons of people who paid for a game with one of its core mechanics ripped away, will they get a refund? no. Most likely not. and its just a pill you'll have to take.



Some ideas pocket pair can do~

-Change the ball throwing animation to a ball tethered onto a string that you can "YoYo" out into the field. ( Change ball into disk shape for the yoyo idea if need be)

-ditch ball entirely when it comes to summoning. Allow for a snap of finger animation and a holographic courser show where you want to spawn pal.

-digitized pal into field via wrist computer

-Wait for mods.
Last edited by BlairiesTTV; Dec 16, 2024 @ 9:58pm
RieXan Dec 16, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Demi-fiend1601:
wow that's your problem? the spawn system... young one it's about time to grow up.
:steamthumbsdown:

You have absolutely 0 understanding of why people are upset about this. It's not because of the visual aspect but that a tactical element has been removed. Before you could, for example, throw the sphere in a certain direction so that your pall would appear there to attack the enemy. At the same time you attack him from behind with a machine gun or other ranged weapon.
funewchie Dec 16, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by Blair:

Sadly while i do shame Nintendo. Pocket Pair did fly a bit too close to the sun knowing how Nintendo is. If i recall one of the artist on the team did complain that a lot of their ideas were shafted to make them look much closer to Pokemon counterparts (Anubis is quiet literally Lucario)

What of it?
Lucario was just a rip-off of Digimon's Anubismon, who debuted 5 years before Diamond/Pearl.
(Not even getting into Nintendo ripping off Digimon's Mega Evolution. Nintendo are a bunch of filthy thieves themselves)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338973907
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Also, kid, PocketPair didn't fly too close to anything.
Because the lawsuit has literally nothing to do with designs, trademark, or copyright.
Last edited by funewchie; Dec 16, 2024 @ 11:06pm
BlairiesTTV Dec 17, 2024 @ 4:38am 
Originally posted by funewchie:
Originally posted by Blair:

Sadly while i do shame Nintendo. Pocket Pair did fly a bit too close to the sun knowing how Nintendo is. If i recall one of the artist on the team did complain that a lot of their ideas were shafted to make them look much closer to Pokemon counterparts (Anubis is quiet literally Lucario)

What of it?
Lucario was just a rip-off of Digimon's Anubismon, who debuted 5 years before Diamond/Pearl.
(Not even getting into Nintendo ripping off Digimon's Mega Evolution. Nintendo are a bunch of filthy thieves themselves)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338973907
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Also, kid, PocketPair didn't fly too close to anything.
Because the lawsuit has literally nothing to do with designs, trademark, or copyright.
What of it? Is Digimon sueing pokemon? Reading comprehension goes a long way. It has nothing to do with how they look. Plenty to do to catch nintendos attention. Nintendo has a track history for going after games they think copycat pokemon. Your reply misses my entire point. Hit the gym lil boy instead of calling people bigger then you "kids" 💀. Zip up pocket pairs pants and Go back to playing duck tales and your dating sims "summer with you?" What a fkn lame!! Lmaooo

You were on my meat in a post I made but this comment expanding on that seems to irk you. make it make sense my boy. Everyone agrees Nintendo is trash. So don't fret.
Last edited by BlairiesTTV; Dec 17, 2024 @ 7:17am
👁️👄👁 Dec 17, 2024 @ 6:38am 
The game is still fine.
BlairiesTTV Dec 17, 2024 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Masta_Fu:
The game is still fine.
Games still fun as hell. Sadly PoE2 has my attention for now.
Gamefreak506 Dec 17, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by Blair:
Originally posted by funewchie:
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What of it? Is Digimon sueing pokemon? Reading comprehension goes a long way. It has nothing to do with how they look. Plenty to do to catch nintendos attention. Nintendo has a track history for going after games they think copycat pokemon. Your reply misses my entire point. Hit the gym lil boy instead of calling people bigger then you "kids" 💀. Zip up pocket pairs pants and Go back to playing duck tales and your dating sims "summer with you?" What a fkn lame!! Lmaooo

You were on my meat in a post I made but this comment expanding on that seems to irk you. make it make sense my boy. Everyone agrees Nintendo is trash. So don't fret.
Your point is that Palworld is guilty in regards to one subject that is ultimately circumstantial evidence(Palworld's Anubis ripping off Lucario? Really?).

Palworld has the potential to become Pokemon's biggest rival. Nintendo doesn't want the competition, so they decide to sue.

We agree that Nintendo is a scummy company. Boycotting them based on Palworld's situation alone wouldn't be enough. There are numerous cases that shows how selfish they are. $100 for an alarm clock? $50 a year just to play their limited N64 games on the Switch? Fangame DCMAs? YouTube copyright strikes? The list goes on.

Next I supposed their new Pokemon game(Legends ZA) is only gonna be played on the Switch 2.
Duilf Dec 17, 2024 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Gamefreak506:
Originally posted by Blair:
What of it? Is Digimon sueing pokemon? Reading comprehension goes a long way. It has nothing to do with how they look. Plenty to do to catch nintendos attention. Nintendo has a track history for going after games they think copycat pokemon. Your reply misses my entire point. Hit the gym lil boy instead of calling people bigger then you "kids" 💀. Zip up pocket pairs pants and Go back to playing duck tales and your dating sims "summer with you?" What a fkn lame!! Lmaooo

You were on my meat in a post I made but this comment expanding on that seems to irk you. make it make sense my boy. Everyone agrees Nintendo is trash. So don't fret.
Your point is that Palworld is guilty in regards to one subject that is ultimately circumstantial evidence(Palworld's Anubis ripping off Lucario? Really?).

Palworld has the potential to become Pokemon's biggest rival. Nintendo doesn't want the competition, so they decide to sue.

We agree that Nintendo is a scummy company. Boycotting them based on Palworld's situation alone wouldn't be enough. There are numerous cases that shows how selfish they are. $100 for an alarm clock? $50 a year just to play their limited N64 games on the Switch? Fangame DCMAs? YouTube copyright strikes? The list goes on.

Next I supposed their new Pokemon game(Legends ZA) is only gonna be played on the Switch 2.

Does the Japanese system of local then global release, and/or exclusivity actually work? No man is an island, but many Japanese seem to insist on keeping Japan in some form extremely Isolationist.
funewchie Dec 17, 2024 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Blair:
Originally posted by funewchie:

What of it?
Lucario was just a rip-off of Digimon's Anubismon, who debuted 5 years before Diamond/Pearl.
(Not even getting into Nintendo ripping off Digimon's Mega Evolution. Nintendo are a bunch of filthy thieves themselves)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338973907
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Also, kid, PocketPair didn't fly too close to anything.
Because the lawsuit has literally nothing to do with designs, trademark, or copyright.
What of it? Is Digimon sueing pokemon? Reading comprehension goes a long way. It has nothing to do with how they look. Plenty to do to catch nintendos attention. Nintendo has a track history for going after games they think copycat pokemon. Your reply misses my entire point. Hit the gym lil boy instead of calling people bigger then you "kids" 💀. Zip up pocket pairs pants and Go back to playing duck tales and your dating sims "summer with you?" What a fkn lame!! Lmaooo

You were on my meat in a post I made but this comment expanding on that seems to irk you. make it make sense my boy. Everyone agrees Nintendo is trash. So don't fret.

"Lucario iz the OG. Palworld stole him."
I'm pointing out that Lucario is not original, and was stolen from Digimon.
Your precious Nintendo are thieves, kid.
Don't be blinded by your love of the electric rat, that you fail to realize it's a lawsuit over computer code, and not designs or copyright.

(But thank you for reminding me I need to start working on my backlog of games)
Enjoy the blocklist.
Last edited by funewchie; Dec 17, 2024 @ 10:33am
Duilf Dec 17, 2024 @ 10:47am 
... if we seriously are talking about Lucario here then the Pokemon has 3 distinct characteristics that separate him from say the Anubis of Egyptian mythology. Several types of Mythology had humanoid animals trying to lay claim to them is like try to lay a claim on the air. Metal spikes in the body, it specifically has hair in tubes to resemble dreadlocks, a unique triple colored coat. Palworls Anubis has a smooth design no odd spike doodads, is wearing cloths which includes a face mask, and practically all the unique coloration come from the cloths.

They look similar sure but compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucario#Concept_and_creation describing what is important to the character with https://palworld.fandom.com/wiki/Anubis it has none of the actual unique distinguishing features.... and might I add many of Lucario's "unique" features are intentional mimicry
Last edited by Duilf; Dec 17, 2024 @ 10:48am
funewchie Dec 17, 2024 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Duilf:
... if we seriously are talking about Lucario here then the Pokemon has 3 distinct characteristics that separate him from say the Anubis of Egyptian mythology. Several types of Mythology had humanoid animals trying to lay claim to them is like try to lay a claim on the air. Metal spikes in the body, it specifically has hair in tubes to resemble dreadlocks, a unique triple colored coat. Palworls Anubis has a smooth design no odd spike doodads, is wearing cloths which includes a face mask, and practically all the unique coloration come from the cloths.

They look similar sure but compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucario#Concept_and_creation describing what is important to the character with https://palworld.fandom.com/wiki/Anubis it has none of the actual unique distinguishing features.... and might I add many of Lucario's "unique" features are intentional mimicry

I'm aware of it.

But Pokemon fans really seem bent on using Anubis vs. Lucario in their rants against Palworld.
And so I point out Digimon beat Nintendo to using the Egyptian god mythology (by 5 years).

In short, If Palworld allegedly "stole" it, then Nintendo also "stole" it.
There's no two ways about it. Either both are innocent, or both are guilty.
Last edited by funewchie; Dec 17, 2024 @ 11:49am
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