what happen when nintendo win ?

[r.aiden.dav.i.d78.9]

when lose access games?

[r.aiden.dav.i.d78.9]

Escrito originalmente por midori:

Escrito originalmente por Anndy578:

game will be removed, Pocketpair will have to pay a massive sum to Nintendo and whatever is left (if anything) will be distributed to customers. Pocketpair really shouldn't have stolen Nintendo's property

what property, exactly? There were games where you captured monster before pokémon. Was that retroactively infringing on their copyright? what a joke.

What exacly mean this

[Anima]

Escrito originalmente por lailaamell:

since nintendo owns the patent for monster catching gameplay they have every right to shut this down for patent infringement

Coming here and spouting nosense randomly shows how much the IQ dropped in the latest years.
There are tons of monster catching games but sure it's Nintendo patent.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clowns

[🕹️Mr.Griffin]

It's a shame that Nintendo is acting this way, filing patents long after the fact and so many years after creating their own games in this genre. I mean, they weren't even the first monster capture/battle game on the market

So many companies were first in that regard. Yet, they are trying to force another game out of existence by filing a lawsuit that doesn't make any sense at all. No matter if they win or lose (I hope they lose), it will backfire because fans of Pokémon and other monster capture/battle games will be up in arms.

Doing it this way will hinder creativity in the gaming world, making it so that as long as the patent is active, no other monster capture/battle games will be released. This will break the gaming industry, including card games, anime, and manga, all because of greed.

But if they win, there's another downside. Not only will they trigger a lack of new monster games and damage the Pokémon franchise, but other greedy major game companies will follow suit.

We'll see patents on combo systems in fighting games, voxel worlds like Minecraft, battle royale mechanics, FPS wall running/gliding, rocket jumps, Soulslike games, and many more. If that happens, there will be no stopping corporate greed.

They will be the only ones capable of creating those kinds of games, effectively killing gaming as we know it. Television is already dead, and if this madness continues, gaming will die too.


Don't make war make peace ... Love is the only path forward

[Elv原则]

nothing will happen,as stated by other you can still acess it trough steam. But i wish nintendo lose. If dev lack money i will suggest open crowdfunding with it than run update on the proceeding as much as it allowed to be shared. This kind of ♥♥♥♥ move that force the market to stagnation is very toxic for us gamer.

Don't want to innovate while using their capital to force all new innovation to shutdown. Pokemon company has done this over and over and keep getting away with it.

[pprandom]

Patents are a ♥♥♥♥♥, since it doesn t matter who invented something first but who patented first (wich is stupid that you could patent something that was already publicly available).
But there s nothing in pokemon that could not be traced to something else:
1) It s a jrpg, tons of those way before pokemon
2) Turn base combat, again since the era of TTRPGS
3) monster capture, Shin Megami Tensei and Yokai Watch
4) Capturing animals using a ball weapon has a historical conterpart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas
5) Creature design, half of them taken from Dragon Quest
Is just petty and stupid to sue and i really hope they become the number 1 target for this kind of infringement from the bigger kids in the block.

[AlexUbel989]

Escrito originalmente por pprandom:

Patents are a ♥♥♥♥♥, since it doesn t matter who invented something first but who patented first (wich is stupid that you could patent something that was already publicly available).
But there s nothing in pokemon that could not be traced to something else:
1) It s a jrpg, tons of those way before pokemon
2) Turn base combat, again since the era of TTRPGS
3) monster capture, Shin Megami Tensei and Yokai Watch
4) Capturing animals using a ball weapon has a historical conterpart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas
5) Creature design, half of them taken from Dragon Quest
Is just petty and stupid to sue and i really hope they become the number 1 target for this kind of infringement from the bigger kids in the block.

All I know for certain is that Nintendo/The Pokemon Company found something, otherwise they wouldn't waste the time or money on pursuing it. Literally no one outside the companies involved know what patent is allegedly being infringed upon.

[Amatsu]

Escrito originalmente por AlexUbel989:

Escrito originalmente por pprandom:

Patents are a ♥♥♥♥♥, since it doesn t matter who invented something first but who patented first (wich is stupid that you could patent something that was already publicly available).
But there s nothing in pokemon that could not be traced to something else:
1) It s a jrpg, tons of those way before pokemon
2) Turn base combat, again since the era of TTRPGS
3) monster capture, Shin Megami Tensei and Yokai Watch
4) Capturing animals using a ball weapon has a historical conterpart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas
5) Creature design, half of them taken from Dragon Quest
Is just petty and stupid to sue and i really hope they become the number 1 target for this kind of infringement from the bigger kids in the block.

All I know for certain is that Nintendo/The Pokemon Company found something, otherwise they wouldn't waste the time or money on pursuing it. Literally no one outside the companies involved know what patent is allegedly being infringed upon.

Even Pocketpair doesn't know supposedly, though they might by now and are having their lawyers draft a response to Nintendo's claims.

[Caduryn]

Escrito originalmente por AlexUbel989:

Escrito originalmente por pprandom:

Patents are a ♥♥♥♥♥, since it doesn t matter who invented something first but who patented first (wich is stupid that you could patent something that was already publicly available).
But there s nothing in pokemon that could not be traced to something else:
1) It s a jrpg, tons of those way before pokemon
2) Turn base combat, again since the era of TTRPGS
3) monster capture, Shin Megami Tensei and Yokai Watch
4) Capturing animals using a ball weapon has a historical conterpart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas
5) Creature design, half of them taken from Dragon Quest
Is just petty and stupid to sue and i really hope they become the number 1 target for this kind of infringement from the bigger kids in the block.

All I know for certain is that Nintendo/The Pokemon Company found something, otherwise they wouldn't waste the time or money on pursuing it. Literally no one outside the companies involved know what patent is allegedly being infringed upon.

Meh.... Nintendo is just envy... and has way too much Money, they dont care it they are right or wrong.

[AlexUbel989]

Escrito originalmente por Caduryn:

Escrito originalmente por AlexUbel989:

All I know for certain is that Nintendo/The Pokemon Company found something, otherwise they wouldn't waste the time or money on pursuing it. Literally no one outside the companies involved know what patent is allegedly being infringed upon.

Meh.... Nintendo is just envy... and has way too much Money, they dont care it they are right or wrong.

I mean that is your opinion, which isn't based in any facts what-so-ever. It is amusing you think they care about Palworld's success at all. Even the so-called bad Pokemon games sold in the millions.

[Rizo the Hunter]

Escrito originalmente por Raywhisper:

That said, buy your palworld now, if you didnt already, as delist might actually happen in the future.

Nintendo might force Steam to remove it from our libraries as well.

[Floppa]

Escrito originalmente por Rizo the Hunter:

Escrito originalmente por Raywhisper:

That said, buy your palworld now, if you didnt already, as delist might actually happen in the future.

Nintendo might force Steam to remove it from our libraries as well.

that wont happen and even if it did you would get a refund

[pprandom]

True, we won t technically lose the game since it s on pc you can always download it from somewhere and play it. But there won t be more support from the devs and we won t have a way to support the devs either,

[funewchie]

Escrito originalmente por Rizo the Hunter:

Escrito originalmente por Raywhisper:

That said, buy your palworld now, if you didnt already, as delist might actually happen in the future.

Nintendo might force Steam to remove it from our libraries as well.

They can't touch your library, actually.
That'd be breaking some serious laws in the EU, and I'm fairly sure the USA, too.

No one's allowed to remotely install or uninstall things on your PC.
Undertale tried that in development, where the Genocide path would end with the game uninstalling. Turns out, anti-viruses and Defender don't take kindly to that, and read that as malware.

[Kikinaak]

Escrito originalmente por Floppa:

Escrito originalmente por Rizo the Hunter:

Nintendo might force Steam to remove it from our libraries as well.

that wont happen and even if it did you would get a refund

Games have been pulled from peoples libraries with no refund in the past. Unlikely, but not impossible. One would hope in this case Steam would stand by their customers and issue refunds but the sheer number of sales we are talking about may make that impossible, and if Pocketpair has no money left for refunds after Nintendo gets done with them, we may well be screwed for getting it.

Depending on just how the lawyers and judge want to twist it, anyone who bought the game could be considered an accessory to the crime, like they try to do with anyone buying a mod chip or game backup cartridge, and the court could forbid Pocketpair from issuing refunds. Unlikely, but not impossible. In which case it would fall to Valve, who are outside the jurisdiction of a japanese court, to handle the refunds or not as above. If Valve ends up paying the refunds out of their pocket, thats a serious amount of money and will cause no small amount of bad blood between Valve and Nintendo.

[プリンツ・オイゲン]

no

the way you capture a pal is going to change and thats it

i dont see what everyone is freaking over out