The PATENT lawsuit

[Halvos]

Since I keep seeing everyone talking about digimon and other such games this lawsuit is about a patent not copyright, we have no idea which patent they are filing with yet so we can't say how legitimate this lawsuit is yet, chill the hell out and wait. If this is clearly frivolous and clearly meant to drop funds from Pocketpair then we should honestly make ourselves heard to Nintendo and make it clear we'll hurt their wallets if they're only suing to hurt Pocketpair for daring to be successful.

[Tampa Powers]

Escrito originalmente por Halvos:

I am pretty sure that's not what they're sueing over because you can't sue them over a patent you filed after the game was released.

Unfortunately that's not how patent law works. Realistically if another product already does something you do then the patent should not have been granted. Patent law, on paper at least, does not care about the filing date. You are the first to file, congrats, you can enforce it now. The chance you have against such a thing is a court ruling the patent as invalid first, which is difficult to accomplish and in any case will cost a lot in lawyer fees.

Let's be real. Nintendo knows they can use a shaky patent lawsuit to drain their competition of funds. It's a SLAPP lawsuit really. Unfortunately this is all happening in Japan, which has much less protections against abusing the legal system, so unless they really want to work against the laws I don't think they are going to fight this much. We all want them to so Nintendo finally takes an L for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[CheeseSlice]

You're not supposed to be able to patent game mechanics. If Palworld is somehow infringing on Nintendo patents, then so are hundreds, if not thousands of other games. Palworld needs to win this lawsuit for the entire gaming industry.

I can't imagine from a gameplay perspective what this game is doing that no other game out there is doing to infringe on Nintendo. The art style and character design of some of the Pals are clearly a knock-off of Pokemon, however, those designs should be seen as being different enough to be considered parody; and that would be a copyright issue, not patent infringement.

I think this is a SLAPP lawsuit from Nintendo because they are pissed about how much it looks like Pokemon and they can't go after Palworld for that.

[Teratus]

Escrito originalmente por kampfer91:

Gamers have the power to crash Nintendo , if they lose enough trust in them .

Oh we're getting there trust me XD
I used to buy tons of Nintendo games per generation back in the day, and i've owned (and still own) every single Nintendo system.

Should see my Switch collection.. it's impressively small by comparison.. and the way things are looking the Switch will likely be the last Nintendo system I ever own.

[Tampa Powers]

Escrito originalmente por CheeseSlice:

You're not supposed to be able to patent game mechanics.

Again. This is Japan, which has a different gaming culture to the west. The laws are different and absolutely allow you to patent certain mechanics. Remember this is a country that happily let's people gamble so long as it is under the guise of being a skill game. Guess what. The makers of those games are rather competitive of the thus limited market so they happily lobby to get their way with the laws and patents to protect their revenue.

[Reaper]

Escrito originalmente por CheeseSlice:

You're not supposed to be able to patent game mechanics.

Actually you can patent game mechanics but there are rules.

Examples of Patented Game Mechanics

Nemesis System (Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor): Warner Bros. patented this innovative mechanic, which allows enemies to remember and adapt to the player’s actions.

Dual-Reality (The Medium): Bloober Team patented this mechanic, which generates two worlds simultaneously, allowing for unique gameplay experiences.

Ping System (Apex Legends): EA patented this mechanic, which enables players to communicate with each other through a visual and audio-based system.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUH8FWSs4c

[Shikinoyume]

Escrito originalmente por Knightframe:

Escrito originalmente por Kira Von Black:

my bet is the Glider mechanic from BOTW/TOTK, that's why its a joint lawsuit?!

Genshit, wuthering waves and i could probaly count more.

Nope, looks like they also patented using a glider as the same time as the monster capturing patent lmao....

https://patents.justia.com/patent/20240286040

> "If the player character aboard the air boarding target, object moves toward the ground, the player character is automatically changed to the state where the player character is aboard the ground boarding target object, and brought into the state where the player character can move on the ground."

aka: player boards an object in the air and uses it to traverse a space while the object moves towards the ground and once the player touches the ground while aboard that object the player is transitioned to a state of movement on the ground instead.

This is now a patented mechanic by Nintendo.

lmao f****k this company dude

[funewchie]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if No Entiendo registered a patent on my butt.

[Goonyman]

Escrito originalmente por Halvos:

Since I keep seeing everyone talking about digimon and other such games this lawsuit is about a patent not copyright, we have no idea which patent they are filing with yet so we can't say how legitimate this lawsuit is yet, chill the hell out and wait. If this is clearly frivolous and clearly meant to drop funds from Pocketpair then we should honestly make ourselves heard to Nintendo and make it clear we'll hurt their wallets if they're only suing to hurt Pocketpair for daring to be successful.

You know what they should do this should have their own anime series if they can't hit them with the game if they win the patent like if Nintendo wins the Patten deal then pocket pair should do their own anime series. Finally a Pokemon anime series that's for more of a mature audience wouldn't that be exciting? And if they win then they can get them back with the anime series rather since they're only patening the game but forgot about the anime series.

[Goonyman]

Escrito originalmente por Halvos:

Since I keep seeing everyone talking about digimon and other such games this lawsuit is about a patent not copyright, we have no idea which patent they are filing with yet so we can't say how legitimate this lawsuit is yet, chill the hell out and wait. If this is clearly frivolous and clearly meant to drop funds from Pocketpair then we should honestly make ourselves heard to Nintendo and make it clear we'll hurt their wallets if they're only suing to hurt Pocketpair for daring to be successful.

You don't have no idea which patent are they talking about I can tell you exactly which one it is it's the whole idea of Pokemon that style they want to keep it for themselves so no one else does and that's what they're after either that or they're going to keep going through Court until pocket pair becomes broke and can't afford to go in every time.

[Nostbomb]

After reading all of the above. I hope Pocket Pair gets a lawyer that is actually knowledgeable about games, or involve game historians or something for counter arguments.

[Nightsbane]

Escrito originalmente por Shikinoyume:

Escrito originalmente por Knightframe:

Genshit, wuthering waves and i could probaly count more.

Nope, looks like they also patented using a glider as the same time as the monster capturing patent lmao....

https://patents.justia.com/patent/20240286040

> "If the player character aboard the air boarding target, object moves toward the ground, the player character is automatically changed to the state where the player character is aboard the ground boarding target object, and brought into the state where the player character can move on the ground."

aka: player boards an object in the air and uses it to traverse a space while the object moves towards the ground and once the player touches the ground while aboard that object the player is transitioned to a state of movement on the ground instead.

This is now a patented mechanic by Nintendo.

lmao f****k this company dude

♥♥♥♥ Nintendo gliding shouldn't even be allowed to be patented what kind of nonsense is this. Why isn't this ♥♥♥♥ illegal . Can the supreme court or something look at this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[funewchie]

Escrito originalmente por Nightsbane:

♥♥♥♥ Nintendo gliding shouldn't even be allowed to be patented what kind of nonsense is this. Why isn't this ♥♥♥♥ illegal . Can the supreme court or something look at this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

This is all strictly in Japan.

America and Europe's governments are 100% irrelevant here.

[Nightsbane]

Escrito originalmente por funewchie:

Escrito originalmente por Nightsbane:

♥♥♥♥ Nintendo gliding shouldn't even be allowed to be patented what kind of nonsense is this. Why isn't this ♥♥♥♥ illegal . Can the supreme court or something look at this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

This is all strictly in Japan.

America and Europe's governments are 100% irrelevant here.

Pocket pair can come relocate to a more fair country then .

[⎛⎝Todd The Fox⎠⎞]

I can't wait for dragon quest to nuke nintendo's ass for their copyright

[Komarimaru]

It should be noted, these patents were all filed after Palwords launch.

And yes, patents. Since they also patented the ability to ride a mount too lol

Every MMO with flying mounts says hello...