Hard mode towers kicking my butt, trying to re-assess my strat

[not actually johnny sins]

So needless to say, using wild caught pals and the basic Palsteel armor at the end of the tech tree gets me and my pals one shot. I do have a blazehowl noct with like, an IV of 95 in Def/Attack but it's HP IV is literally like, 7... Which is sad and he still gets insta-deleted even by Zoe/Grizzbolt. lol.

So I'm breeding Chillets right now, gonna try the 4 Gobfins with Stronghold/Vanguard and run a Chillet (I have one that's 96/61/82 HP/ATK/DEF respectively, working on bringing those last two numbers above 90...)

Would getting all three to around 95 be good enough if I then max out my player stats with potions, and then try to grind for rare/epic/legendary armor schematics? I have a quad missile rocket but it's a common schematic. Not sure if that'd be a good enough weapon to take on all of the towers or if I need something rarer?

Does this all sound generally ok? Any other mountable pal I should breed as well for any of the specific bosses? I know chillet would probably be good for two or three of them at least.

EDIT: Also, I have a rocket launcher legendary 4 schematic... Would that actually be better to use than the common quad missile I have?

[Phade]

Make sure you use pals that have resistance. so in terms of Zoe, use ground pals like Metasting.

[Tetsuri]

Is hard mode just the hard difficulty setting? I've done it wit gobfins. I don't believe you're supposed to actually sit there and take damage, but the battles are pretty fast since you're going to pwn their face. You can kite that shadow guy. His attacks/mount are slow... Chillets...not a good idea. You want Frostallion/ Noct.

[not actually johnny sins]

I didn't really have a chance to sit there, I just spawned in and got killed instantly. I'm in custom mode, but you can go into the tower as a hard mode. I already bred Gobfins with the Vanguard/Stronghold passives so I guess I just power lvl em all to 55 to maximize the percentage increase that I get? Would condensing them matter at all for the power increase?

Originally posted by Phade:

Make sure you use pals that have resistance. so in terms of Zoe, use ground pals like Metasting.

Will do. Does it matter if I get all of a pal's IVs to at least 85-95 to do the hard towers, ya think? I don't need em to be perfect if it's gonna take me days vs a day or two of getting them close enough.

[not actually johnny sins]

Originally posted by Tetsuri:

Is hard mode just the hard difficulty setting? I've done it wit gobfins. I don't believe you're supposed to actually sit there and take damage, but the battles are pretty fast since you're going to pwn their face. You can kite that shadow guy. His attacks/mount are slow... Chillets...not a good idea. You want Frostallion/ Noct.

IDK why my last reply didn't go through. Anyways, I'm gonna go with the gobfins. Do I just power em to 55 and condense em for max effect on their passives? I have Vanguard/Stronghold on all 4 of em. I'll grab a Frostallion. (Or a noct version of it I'm assuming?)

I saw a video from like a month or two ago of someone facing one of the tougher tower bosses with a chillet, a quad missile launcher and gobfins. I only have a common quad launcher and a legendary 4 rocket launcher atm.

[Tetsuri]

Gobfin levels don't matter. You Do have to condense them to max, because only the Pal skill Does matter. Stronghold Strat isn't going to help your Pal survive though. So if you couldn't even move for some reason and get instant deleted, then you will still have problems.

Edit: Chillet is strong against dark, so it will do more damage against Shadowbeak, but it also moves slow as f, so unless you're going to Destroy that Shadowbeak, you may have a survivability problem.

[not actually johnny sins]

Originally posted by Tetsuri:

Gobfin levels don't matter. You Do have to condense them to max, because only the Pal skill Does matter. Stronghold Strat isn't going to help your Pal survive though. So if you couldn't even move for some reason and get instant deleted, then you will still have problems.

kk. But what skills do I need for the gobfins then? I thought it was Vanguard for attack and Stronghold for defense. I actually just dramatically raised my health/attack/etc through finally using all of the potions I had accumulated and plan on farming those now as well. All of my main wild caught team's EVs were mostly horrible with maybe one or two being the exception but they were still not very strong ultimately. So starting to breed stuff.

[Tetsuri]

Originally posted by cat:

Originally posted by Tetsuri:

Gobfin levels don't matter. You Do have to condense them to max, because only the Pal skill Does matter. Stronghold Strat isn't going to help your Pal survive though. So if you couldn't even move for some reason and get instant deleted, then you will still have problems.

kk. But what skills do I need for the gobfins then? I thought it was Vanguard for attack and Stronghold for defense. I actually just dramatically raised my health/attack/etc through finally using all of the potions I had accumulated and plan on farming those now as well. All of my main wild caught team's EVs were mostly horrible with maybe one or two being the exception but they were still not very strong ultimately. So starting to breed stuff.

Those are the only skills they need, because you won't ever throw them out as active pal.

[not actually johnny sins]

Originally posted by Tetsuri:

Those are the only skills they need, because you won't ever throw them out as active pal.

Good, gotcha. I'm sure I'll be ok now that I'm actually addressing the end-game stuff that I need to do. Gonna focus on crafting that common quad launcher. I figure 4x6k damage that locks on is better than a single 14k rocket launcher shot. Gonna breed some Metasting/Digtoise for Zoe...

Which dragon would be better vs shadowbeak?

Just figuring out which few pals to really breed for IVs now to deal with each boss. I'll look up guides, I figure even if no guides really focus on the hard mode of the towers, they're the same picks in theory.

Seems to be the most daunting thing, once I actually have 'em I'm sure that power leveling'll take a few hours and then it's all condensing em and getting the power fruits I guess?

[Tetsuri]

lol, that's not the other guy, that was me. Anyway, just try it out first and see wat happens.

[not actually johnny sins]

Originally posted by Tetsuri:

lol, that's not the other guy, that was me. Anyway, just try it out first and see wat happens.

To be fair, ya both basically agreed anyway, didn't ya? (3 am here, tired af xd)

I'll let ya know how it all goes down. I didn't realize shooting Zoe multiplies the damage as well. Would mounts actually cover every tower boss, ya think? Like, there's no really good ground mount to use the gobfin strat vs Zoe, is there? I know there's Rushoar and Dazemu? Not sure if they'd be strong enough for that if I max em with IVs and everything else. Just thinking out loud here as I prepare.

[Tetsuri]

Okay, you're missing some info there. Gobfins is HALF the build, and the other half is your mount. You need to be riding a mount that has Player Attack Increase in order to deal your damage:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1aedboa/partner_skill_upgrade_stats_exact_values_for_lv1/

Out of the New Pals not covered by that, I believe it's just Chillet Ignis(Fire), Helzephyr Lux(electric), and Selyne(Fire&Dark)(maybe).

You Don't actually need to be on element for bosses, you just need to not be weak against their element. The damage will be sufficient, but you Have to be using an element damage mount. There aren't any Earth ones. If you Were to go about condensing so many Pals just for a single fight, it would be a Lot of work. Though I guess they wouldn't be wasted if you can also use them for boss raids.

Please check edits: Not "Mounted Element Boost", but "Player Attack Boost While Mounted".

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