a fix for the lawsuit so we can keep this game

[A.W.G]

i thought of an idea to fix the patent lawsuit, change the ball throwing mechanism from a ball to a sack, a brown dingy sag, you scoop the pals up when low health and the bag wriggle 4 short consecutive times. you can add the ability to upgrade to a better sac, and if the pals escape the brown sack, a funny, hilarious message pops up over the bag saying," oh no, your sack has been emptied", or something similarly funny like that. we already can capture humans, we can "butcher for meat" the pals. just change the ball throwing mechanic to a grabbing brown sac. BOOM, problem fixed. i absolutely love this game and i think a lot of people would agree we don't want to lose this game because of a silly lawsuit over game mechanics.

[Peptowl]

no

[Cyber Kitten]

Its a patent lawsuit. That means they are being sued for the code in the game.

This could be as simple as a tree creating a shadow. Its not what you think it is, and the devs of Palworld don't even know themselves what they are being sued for because its probably like 10 different things Nintendo pulled from their ass.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by Cyber Kitten:

Its a patent lawsuit. That means they are being sued for the code in the game.

This could be as simple as a tree creating a shadow. Its not what you think it is, and the devs of Palworld don't even know themselves what they are being sued for because its probably like 10 different things Nintendo pulled from their ass.

^This.

But even if it is the patent that others are assuming, the patent is so vague, it says "Any object that interacts with a creature".
Meaning a ball, a disc, trapezoid, a burlap bag, a bullet, a trading card, a old torn-up pair of Nintendo-print panties, etc... it still would be violating the patent.

[Tyogenes]

the idea of patenting game mechanics is so offensive to me.

[amok]

Originally posted by Tyogenes:

the idea of patenting game mechanics is so offensive to me.

It is good that game mechanics cannot be patented then.

[Spartytheknight]

Originally posted by amok:

Originally posted by Tyogenes:

the idea of patenting game mechanics is so offensive to me.

It is good that game mechanics cannot be patented then.

That is untrue. Nemesis system, loading screen mini games, dialogue wheel, etc

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by amok:

Originally posted by Tyogenes:

the idea of patenting game mechanics is so offensive to me.

It is good that game mechanics cannot be patented then.

Actually yes game mechanics can be patented

Nemesis mechanic from shadow of mordor is a patented mechanic

[amok]

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Originally posted by amok:

It is good that game mechanics cannot be patented then.

Actually yes game mechanics can be patented

Nemesis mechanic from shadow of mordor is a patented mechanic

no, read the patents.

A game mechanic cannot be patente, but the specfic implementation of one can. This means that someone else can use the same mechanic, they just need to implement it a differnt way.

For example, the Nemesis System patent basically consits of three differnt things - the AI created, how the hierarchy of aggression works, and the way that the NPC's remember the player.

You can create a game with the same mechnaic (i.e. a escalating vendetta relaionship between player and NPC's), you just need to find a different way to implement it

[amok]

Originally posted by Spartytheknight:

Originally posted by amok:

It is good that game mechanics cannot be patented then.

That is untrue. Nemesis system, loading screen mini games, dialogue wheel, etc

See above, and I will also point out the dialogue wheel or loading screen minigames are NOT game mechanics

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by amok:

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Actually yes game mechanics can be patented

Nemesis mechanic from shadow of mordor is a patented mechanic

no, read the patents.

A game mechanic cannot be patente, but the specfic implementation of one can. This means that someone else can use the same mechanic, they just need to implement it a differnt way.

For example, the Nemesis System patent basically consits of three differnt things - the AI created, how the hierarchy of aggression works, and the way that the NPC's remember the player.

You can create a game with the same mechnaic (i.e. a escalating vendetta relaionship between player and NPC's), you just need to find a different way to implement it

Yes u can patent game mechanics

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-patent-game-mechanics-or-game-design

There's a reason no game has used the nemesis system from shadow of mordor. It's due to it being patented. If it wasn't we would see alot more game using the system or even mechanics like it.

Same with the dialog wheel in sims 4 for ea owns the patent to that. Why u think no other game uses it? Correct it's patented

Why do u think after minecraft the survival crafting genre exploded and so many of these games are very similar in survival and crafting.

If there was a patent for it we wouldn't have 100+ different survival crafting types of games

Only game iv played so far that sorta comes close (extremely gutted tho) is dragons dogma pawn system. It's so gutted it's not even the same mechanic as the Nemesis system/mechanic

Same with the boardgame monopoly there's no game similar or like it for a reason. The systems/mechanics are patented

Nemesis is in fact a patented mechanic. Even if developers found another way to implement it if the mechanic/s start and end results are the same. It infringe on those patents

nintendo can patent the mechanic of throwing a pokaball. Starting with the ball in the players hand to the end result being a captured creature.

Palword can't just implement it in another way or even code it different to where it's not a copy past of code. If the mechanic from ball in hand to end result a captured is exactly the same. It still infringe on that patent.

End of day game mechanics 100% can be patented they are not exempt from patents. Claiming they can't be as u have done is false information

Here's another link that proves u wrong about game mechanics

https://boldip.com/blog/protecting-gaming-ideas-the-role-of-patents/#:~:text=Understanding%20Patents%20in%20the%20Gaming%20Industry&text=Essentially%2C%20a%20patent%20is%20a,your%20invention%20without%20your%20permission.

[brantje]

Make sure to make a backup of the game files

[Strurbury]

Originally posted by A.W.G:

...we already can capture humans, we can "butcher for meat" the pals.

This should be good enough. Pokeballs are for pokemon. Palspheres are just portable hypercubes for imprisonment.

[funewchie]

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Same with the boardgame monopoly there's no game similar or like it for a reason. The systems/mechanics are patented

Nemesis is in fact a patented mechanic. Even if developers found another way to implement it if the mechanic/s start and end results are the same. It infringe on those patents

Palword can't just implement it in another way or even code it different to where it's not a copy past of code. If the mechanic from ball in hand to end result a captured is exactly the same. It still infringe on that patent.

End of day game mechanics 100% can be patented they are not exempt from patents. Claiming they can't be as u have done is false information

Ever heard of Fortune Street, kid?
Monopoly with stocks?
Even starred your precious Mario and cast, plus DQ characters, and on the bloody Wii.
So, I guess you're right, Milton-Bradley should sue the crap out of Nintendo and SE for their patent violation.
(Or is it only wrong if it's Nintendo's patents being allegedly violated?)

So, care to explain how after Nintendo made Mario, games like Sonic exist? Or should Sega be sued now, too? And Capcom?

Look, kid, we get it. You hate Palworld making your precious Pokeman look pathetic. And you fantasize about this game being dead, and it's fans being round up and jailed for their insolence at mocking Nintendo's weak electric rat.
But it's not happening. Ever.

[oldschooldiablo]

Originally posted by funewchie:

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Same with the boardgame monopoly there's no game similar or like it for a reason. The systems/mechanics are patented

Nemesis is in fact a patented mechanic. Even if developers found another way to implement it if the mechanic/s start and end results are the same. It infringe on those patents

Palword can't just implement it in another way or even code it different to where it's not a copy past of code. If the mechanic from ball in hand to end result a captured is exactly the same. It still infringe on that patent.

End of day game mechanics 100% can be patented they are not exempt from patents. Claiming they can't be as u have done is false information

Ever heard of Fortune Street, kid?
Monopoly with stocks?
Even starred your precious Mario and cast, plus DQ characters, and on the bloody Wii.
So, I guess you're right, Milton-Bradley should sue the crap out of Nintendo and SE for their patent violation.
(Or is it only wrong if it's Nintendo's patents being allegedly violated?)

So, care to explain how after Nintendo made Mario, games like Sonic exist? Or should Sega be sued now, too? And Capcom?

Look, kid, we get it. You hate Palworld making your precious Pokeman look pathetic. And you fantasize about this game being dead, and it's fans being round up and jailed for their insolence at mocking Nintendo's weak electric rat.
But it's not happening. Ever.

Dude I'm 36 I don't even play Pokémon I played the OGs that was it.

I'm simply pointing out how a game mechanic indeed can be patented. It's not true to say game mechanics can't be patented

As for the Mario game never played that one. It would probably come down to how dead on the mechanics in it are to monopoly. Also comes down to did Nintendo pay the company behind monopoly for a license to use those patents.

Monopoly with stocks??? Think iv heard of that. I'd have to check I'm pretty sure that's made by the same company that makes monopoly. Same company that made a monopoly game with no money and u used a credit/bank card system

Edit just looked this game up it's made by the hasbro compony which makes ur basic monopoly boardgame. So patent infringement isn't an issue with monopoly with stocks

This is what comes up when u search monopoly with stocks

https://www.amazon.com/Monopoly-Ultimate-Banking-Board-Game/dp/B01ALHAMTK/ref=asc_df_B01ALHAMTK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13071346575423646751&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1019877&hvtargid=pla-2281435180218&psc=1&mcid=618a612ccd273555adc6756fae1d4173&hvocijid=13071346575423646751-B01ALHAMTK-&hvexpln=73

I'm not hating o. Anything I'm try to be realistic about the issue at hand. I'd actually love to see pocketpair win. I prefer palworld over Pokeman anyways. Doesn't mean one can't be a realistic about the law suit

[funewchie]

Originally posted by oldschooldiablo:

Originally posted by funewchie:

Ever heard of Fortune Street, kid?
Monopoly with stocks?
Even starred your precious Mario and cast, plus DQ characters, and on the bloody Wii.
So, I guess you're right, Milton-Bradley should sue the crap out of Nintendo and SE for their patent violation.
(Or is it only wrong if it's Nintendo's patents being allegedly violated?)

So, care to explain how after Nintendo made Mario, games like Sonic exist? Or should Sega be sued now, too? And Capcom?

Look, kid, we get it. You hate Palworld making your precious Pokeman look pathetic. And you fantasize about this game being dead, and it's fans being round up and jailed for their insolence at mocking Nintendo's weak electric rat.
But it's not happening. Ever.

Dude I'm 36 I don't even play Pokémon I played the OGs that was it.

I'm simply pointing out how a game mechanic indeed can be patented. It's not true to say game mechanics can't be patented

As for the Mario game never played that one. It would probably come down to how dead on the mechanics in it are to monopoly. Also comes down to did Nintendo pay the company behind monopoly for a license to use those patents.

Monopoly with stocks??? Think iv heard of that. I'd have to check I'm pretty sure that's made by the same company that makes monopoly. Same company that made a monopoly game with no money and u used a credit/bank card system

I'm not hating o. Anything I'm try to be realistic about the issue at hand. I'd actually love to see pocketpair win

Sigh, okay.
Sorry.

Maybe I shouldn't watch YT videos about this lawsuit, and see all the rabid Pokenerds howling in victory and baying for blood... before commenting here.

I despise Pokemon now, and I'm increasingly starting to hate it's fans.

Side note, Fortune Street was actually a good one. Stocks actually did add something to this Monopoly ripoff.
Here's a glimpse of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_TiYBCD-BU