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Boycott Nintendo
Nintendo is going off the rails with their anti-consumer nonsense. They’re suing anyone and everyone just for having fun. Modders? Fan creators? Indie developers? Forget it; they’re all fair game for Nintendo’s legal team.

Instead of supporting the community that loves their games, they’d rather stomp on creativity and pump up prices on their digital store. Seriously, what’s with that? It’s like they want to suck the fun out of gaming while cashing in on nostalgia.

So let’s hit them where it hurts! Boycott Nintendo and show them we won’t tolerate their greedy, anti-gamer tactics. Support indie developers and keep the spirit of gaming alive!
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funewchie Oct 14, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by Cyber Angel:
I came here just to see if a thread like this existed.
While I know a boycott will not work because too few people actually participate in them, I am no longer buying Nintendo games until they drop or lose the lawsuit against Pocketpair due to everything they have done legally within 2024 alone.
i have ZERO connection to Pocketpair since I have never played or been interested in their games. But the fact that this is a PATENT Lawsuit using patents that they filed for RECENTLY is worse than being a greedy Patent Troll. They want to be Patent Yakuza. If the lawsuit was Copyright Infringement ("They used our code and models") or Trademark Infringement ("Their stuff looks too similar to our own. Customers will get confused"), I could understand. But a Patent Lawsuit crosses a line.
I bet Sony is glad they stopped working with them almost 20 years ago.

It's even dirtier, what Nintendo did to Sony 20 years ago.
Sony was all for the deal, agreements were signed, etc.
At an electronics show, Sony announced their deal with Nintendo, ready to unveil the concept.

And then the very next day, Nintendo announced at that show that they were working with Philips, a rival of Sony.
Sony had not been told about Nintendo breaking their deal with them, until that very announcement.
Which soon thereafter led to Sony angrily competing with Nintendo by introducing the PlayStation.
(And Nintendo's deal with Philips leading to the infamous CD-i, which bombed horribly)

So yeah, there's some bad blood between Sony and Nintendo, and rightly so.
Last edited by funewchie; Oct 15, 2024 @ 9:34am
anhela1994 Oct 15, 2024 @ 9:12am 
As a long time fan of Nintendo (I'm 30, have been playing Nintendo games/consoles since I was ~9) I agree, 1,000%. I will no longer be purchasing any nintendo products, games, consoles, and I have cancelled my Nintendo online subscription. The sad thing is that had they not pulled this ♥♥♥♥, I'd have probably continued to buy basically every Pokemon game they release. I'd be buying the inevitable upgrade to the current switch. I'd be buying Zelda. Mario. I like their games, but I'm DONE putting up with their anti-consumer, anti-GAMER nonsense. They've crossed way too many lines, and I, as I hope MANY others, am fed all the way up with their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
HardcoreCasual Oct 15, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Already ahead of you. Skipping the new system.
Nanashi Oct 15, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Splashbang:
They do know. They're being sued over the monster catching mechanics, which is beyond a joke, because Nintendo didn't file for patent for that mechanic until long after Palworld had released into early access. They kinda screwed themselves since it doesn't work retroactively either way.

I do have my own suspicions because there are a few things they could potentially go for. If it turns out to be the catching mechanic (and I honestly doub it) they would have to sue like hundreds of games.

Much more likely probably is stuff like
- Pals following you around (letting them out of the sphere)
- breeding and hatching eggs
- Riding on summoned pals
- The fighting mechanic itself (rather similar to Arceus but not really the other Pokemon games)

Now, I don't know if they have patents for any of those but the fact that it isn't just a single patent (at least that's what I heard when it was announced) makes me believe it's not the catching-thing. Also those mechanic are much less obvious than catching monsters and fighting with them for which not even Pokemon was the first ones to do if I remember correctly.

Obviously I could be wrong but the fact that it's still not made public is definitely weird and somewhat intriguing. I'm really curious what Pocketpair is going to do or going to have to do (Nintendo wouldn't start a law suit if they dont have the law on their side (not condoning anything here but lets be honest. companies play the law as much as they can) - see copyright and the lack of a case here).
Last edited by Nanashi; Oct 15, 2024 @ 12:46pm
ManiacOverlord Oct 15, 2024 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by Nanashi:
Originally posted by Splashbang:
They do know. They're being sued over the monster catching mechanics, which is beyond a joke, because Nintendo didn't file for patent for that mechanic until long after Palworld had released into early access. They kinda screwed themselves since it doesn't work retroactively either way.

I do have my own suspicions because there are a few things they could potentially go for. If it turns out to be the catching mechanic (and I honestly doub it) they would have to sue like hundreds of games.

Much more likely probably is stuff like
- Pals following you around (letting them out of the sphere)
- breeding and hatching eggs
- Riding on summoned pals
- The fighting mechanic itself (rather similar to Arceus but not really the other Pokemon games)

Now, I don't know if they have patents for any of those but the fact that it isn't just a single patent (at least that's what I heard when it was announced) makes me believe it's not the catching-thing. Also those mechanic are much less obvious than catching monsters and fighting with them for which not even Pokemon was the first ones to do if I remember correctly.

Obviously I could be wrong but the fact that it's still not made public is definitely weird and somewhat intriguing. I'm really curious what Pocketpair is going to do or going to have to do (Nintendo wouldn't start a law suit if they dont have the law on their side (not condoning anything here but lets be honest. companies play the law as much as they can) - see copyright and the lack of a case here).

What's funny is that at least the first three have absolutely no logical basis for a patent; it'd be the equivalent of trying to patent the concept of walking your dog, breeding farm animals, or hopping on a horse.

The fighting mechanic maybe might have an argument but it'd be kinda ridiculous to have an actual, basic combat system patented.

If ANY of those patents actually pass and become enforceable then it'll be a sign that every gamer in existence needs to riot against the patenting industry.
Splashbang Oct 15, 2024 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by ManiacOverlord:
Originally posted by Nanashi:

I do have my own suspicions because there are a few things they could potentially go for. If it turns out to be the catching mechanic (and I honestly doub it) they would have to sue like hundreds of games.

Much more likely probably is stuff like
- Pals following you around (letting them out of the sphere)
- breeding and hatching eggs
- Riding on summoned pals
- The fighting mechanic itself (rather similar to Arceus but not really the other Pokemon games)

Now, I don't know if they have patents for any of those but the fact that it isn't just a single patent (at least that's what I heard when it was announced) makes me believe it's not the catching-thing. Also those mechanic are much less obvious than catching monsters and fighting with them for which not even Pokemon was the first ones to do if I remember correctly.

Obviously I could be wrong but the fact that it's still not made public is definitely weird and somewhat intriguing. I'm really curious what Pocketpair is going to do or going to have to do (Nintendo wouldn't start a law suit if they dont have the law on their side (not condoning anything here but lets be honest. companies play the law as much as they can) - see copyright and the lack of a case here).

What's funny is that at least the first three have absolutely no logical basis for a patent; it'd be the equivalent of trying to patent the concept of walking your dog, breeding farm animals, or hopping on a horse.

The fighting mechanic maybe might have an argument but it'd be kinda ridiculous to have an actual, basic combat system patented.

If ANY of those patents actually pass and become enforceable then it'll be a sign that every gamer in existence needs to riot against the patenting industry.

If Nintendo wins, it's gonna have disastrous effects on the gaming industry as a whole. It might even destroy it.

It is imperative that Nintendo loses their lawsuit against Pocketpair. Otherwise we might not have much of a gaming industry left in the aftermath, which is also why everyone should boycott them. Stop purchasing their products, cancel subscriptions etc.
Last edited by Splashbang; Oct 15, 2024 @ 2:40pm
Casual Amateur Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:03pm 
I think it better to target gamefreak instead of going after nintendo on all their games.

I don't think people will boycott some thing like Mario/Zelda/Smash bro/Metroid/Kirby/Fire Emblem/Animal crossing/Donkey Kong so on. Those will sell no matter what and it have nothing to do with pokemon sue palworld at all.
Last edited by Casual Amateur; Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:03pm
funewchie Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:09pm 
Originally posted by Mossy Mushroom:
I think it better to target gamefreak instead of going after nintendo on all their games.

I don't think people will boycott some thing like Mario/Zelda/Smash bro/Metroid/Kirby/Fire Emblem/Animal crossing/Donkey Kong so on. Those will sell no matter what and it have nothing to do with pokemon sue palworld at all.

Nintendo owns 32% of The Pokemon Company, and is the one leading the lawsuit.
So yes, they do have something to do with Pokemon suing Palworld.
Casual Amateur Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:26pm 
Originally posted by funewchie:
Originally posted by Mossy Mushroom:
I think it better to target gamefreak instead of going after nintendo on all their games.

I don't think people will boycott some thing like Mario/Zelda/Smash bro/Metroid/Kirby/Fire Emblem/Animal crossing/Donkey Kong so on. Those will sell no matter what and it have nothing to do with pokemon sue palworld at all.

Nintendo owns 32% of The Pokemon Company, and is the one leading the lawsuit.
So yes, they do have something to do with Pokemon suing Palworld.
I wouldn't count other fan base joining the boycott any way. Usually they doing their own things on their game.
Plaguelight Oct 15, 2024 @ 8:04pm 
I would sooner boycott Steam, but here, have a popsicle. :2016popsicle: Something to suck down other than the haterade. :steammocking:
Splashbang Oct 15, 2024 @ 10:28pm 
Originally posted by Plaguelight:
I would sooner boycott Steam, but here, have a popsicle. :2016popsicle: Something to suck down other than the haterade. :steammocking:

Obviously boycotting is up to each individual, but most people fail to see the consequences of what'll happen if Nintendo wins this lawsuit. It is imperative that Nintendo loses the lawsuit.

If Nintendo wins the lawsuit, it'll create a massively negative ripple effect throughout the entire gaming industry where developers are getting sued left and right by Nintendo for using 'their game mechanics', game mechanics that have existed long before Nintendo patented them, where devs are afraid to innovate and expand on already existing mechanics from other games or heck, afraid to make games inspired by other games.

It's not about hate, it's about forcing them to stop trying to strong-arm the gaming industry and bend it to their will.

It's about standing up against this type of tyranny within the gaming industry.

It's about standing up for the little guys in the industry who haven't done anything wrong other than being inspired by a game franchise, which is what 100% of the developers out there are when making new games. It's called innovation and without innovation, the gaming industry will crumble, and that too, includes Nintendo.
Casual Amateur Oct 15, 2024 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Splashbang:
Originally posted by Plaguelight:
I would sooner boycott Steam, but here, have a popsicle. :2016popsicle: Something to suck down other than the haterade. :steammocking:

Obviously boycotting is up to each individual, but most people fail to see the consequences of what'll happen if Nintendo wins this lawsuit. It is imperative that Nintendo loses the lawsuit.

If Nintendo wins the lawsuit, it'll create a massively negative ripple effect throughout the entire gaming industry where developers are getting sued left and right by Nintendo for using 'their game mechanics', game mechanics that have existed long before Nintendo patented them, where devs are afraid to innovate and expand on already existing mechanics from other games or heck, afraid to make games inspired by other games.

It's not about hate, it's about forcing them to stop trying to strong-arm the gaming industry and bend it to their will.

It's about standing up against this type of tyranny within the gaming industry.

It's about standing up for the little guys in the industry who haven't done anything wrong other than being inspired by a game franchise, which is what 100% of the developers out there are when making new games. It's called innovation and without innovation, the gaming industry will crumble, and that too, includes Nintendo.
Umm... As much as you don't want this to happen. We still don't know what Nintendo suing Palworld for. Many like think it is the catching feature. If it were that. They would gone after many monster catching game by now.

Plus fanboy not allow to interfere lawsuit and we to have let pocketpair do the main fighting against Nintendo here.
Last edited by Casual Amateur; Oct 15, 2024 @ 11:54pm
malgrumm Oct 16, 2024 @ 2:28am 
Originally posted by schachlik:
Nintendo has every right to protect its franchise from stealing. And Nintendo never lost one case in the past, when it comes to law. We all know Palworld ripped the designs of many pals from Pokemon. I like Palworld and hope it survives, but it will not win against Nintendo. Just accept it, there are already couple of Videos out that show how much Palworld stole from Pokemon. Nintendo owns these patents, its buisness.

That patent? Yeah the 4 bits that Nintendo filed for to add onto one of theirs were *drum roll* GRANTED AFTER PALWORLD WAS ALREADY OUT! And have a guess which one we the public think is the issue? One of those 4 because Nintendo is deliberately keeping it vague enough that not even POCKETPAIR knows what "patent" they've actually supposedly "infringed" upon and that right there is outright bullying, they are keeping it vague enough so Pocketpair has to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GUESS exactly "what" they have "infringed" upon here and i do find it quite funny that the Nintendo fans are saying they'll win without factoring in that Nintendo already KNEW this was in the game but left it be and only threw the lawsuit at Pocketpair when they saw just how popular it was.

This was never about "protecting" a patent, it's purely a bully tactic to make sure they remain the 'top dog" even though they really haven't been that for at least a decade now but they've not had any proper competition until Palword came along and that's frightened them but instead of hunkering down and working on a proper and GOOD Pokemon game they've sicced their lawyers at the issue because that's easier for them even though it's going to really hurt them in the long run.
Crimson Oct 16, 2024 @ 3:51am 
If the Pokemon games were these amazing games, where they put heaps of effort into them, polished them and made them at a AAA level. Honestly, I would be playing Pokemon right now instead of Palworld.

The issue is, that Pokemon doesn't seem to have any interest to try. They have A LOT more money to develop a really good game, much better than Palworld, but instead of doing that, they would prefer to send out an unfinished product every time.

What angers me most is that they dare to sue a company that is doing what Pokemon fans have been asking for, for years!

I really hope Nintendo loses, and Palworld takes their money and turns Palworld into a game that replaces Pokemon. I know that is not going to happen, but it would be so deserving.
Topazfinder Oct 16, 2024 @ 5:50am 
Then don't buy Nintendo stuffs at all. Spread words to all of your family, neighbors, and friends with proof of lawsuits. Not many know there is lawsuit going on. Parents just buy what children want without doing research sadly.
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