Dogen inherited Positive Thinker?

[EndlessPlayer]

I have two Dogens with one with positive thinker and second with nothing. I have idea to get another one Dogen without any traits, so I could to pull him into to breeding farm. However, for some reason, every Dogen I get from egg have Positive Thinker in the first slot, similar as Cattiva has coward or Relaxaurus has glutton, but in the same time when I catch Dogen in wild before I send them to farm, I catch 3 diffrent Dogens with different traits and not having positive thinker.
Can somebody say, if Dogens have inherited traits or just having one pal with one trait have higher chance to give egg with this trait?

[Irene ❤]

From my experience some passive have a higher chance to inherit. e.g. Philiptherapist. Once a pal has it, almost all child became Philiptherapist,

[EndlessPlayer]

I see. Well then, I need to take Yokumo and try get the trait I need for Dogen.
Thank you for answering

[Celator]

It doesn't have anything to do with the pal or the passive itself. Rather, you just can't hatch pals without passives. Passiveless pals can only be caught, not bred.

[wildbill]

Celator님이 먼저 게시:

It doesn't have anything to do with the pal or the passive itself. Rather, you just can't hatch pals without passives. Passiveless pals can only be caught, not bred.

Not exactly true. The chance of getting a passiveless is low, but I've gotten them, so I know it is possible. Yes, breed two with passives, ended up eventually with one with no passive. I don't know the odds, but I suspect it is close the odds of for instance, breeding one with nocturnal passive only.

[Microsoft Excel]

Celator님이 먼저 게시:

It doesn't have anything to do with the pal or the passive itself. Rather, you just can't hatch pals without passives. Passiveless pals can only be caught, not bred.

Yea no, that's wrong. It's a low chance, but you can definitely get pals with no traits during breeding if you've bred enough.

EndlessPlayer님이 먼저 게시:

I have two Dogens with one with positive thinker and second with nothing. I have idea to get another one Dogen without any traits, so I could to pull him into to breeding farm. However, for some reason, every Dogen I get from egg have Positive Thinker in the first slot, similar as Cattiva has coward or Relaxaurus has glutton, but in the same time when I catch Dogen in wild before I send them to farm, I catch 3 diffrent Dogens with different traits and not having positive thinker.
Can somebody say, if Dogens have inherited traits or just having one pal with one trait have higher chance to give egg with this trait?

As for the original question, you technically remove guaranteed traits like Cattiva's Cowardly trait through breeding. since Positive Thinker kept appearing, you just have a regular case of RNG moment. I'll take Irene's word for some traits having higher chance to be passed down, but it could really just be RNG.

[Celator]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1af9in7/passive_skill_inheritance_mechanics_in_breeding/

Here's a guide to the game's breeding mechanics. To correct myself, you can't hatch pals without passives UNLESS both parents start with no passives. If either parent has even one passive, then the child will always inherit something. You can't start with parents that have passives and breed a passiveless child from them.

[wildbill]

Celator님이 먼저 게시:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1af9in7/passive_skill_inheritance_mechanics_in_breeding/

Here's a guide to the game's breeding mechanics. To correct myself, you can't hatch pals without passives UNLESS both parents start with no passives. If either parent has even one passive, then the child will always inherit something. You can't start with parents that have passives and breed a passiveless child from them.

Keep in mind, several months ago, they changed how breeding works and that reddit post is 7 months old. So not current to how it works now.

[Celator]

wildbill님이 먼저 게시:

Keep in mind, several months ago, they changed how breeding works and that reddit post is 7 months old. So not current to how it works now.

They didn't change anything relevant to this. Only things that changed are the breeding combos for some species, chance of hatching alphas, and the bug where species that spawn in the wild with certain passives would always spawn with them from eggs. But passive inheritance is still the same.

[wildbill]

Celator님이 먼저 게시:

wildbill님이 먼저 게시:

Keep in mind, several months ago, they changed how breeding works and that reddit post is 7 months old. So not current to how it works now.

They didn't change anything relevant to this. Only things that changed are the breeding combos for some species, chance of hatching alphas, and the bug where species that spawn in the wild with certain passives would always spawn with them from eggs. But passive inheritance is still the same.

Interesting thing about the internet. If you look for anything, you can find some page that says it is true:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1bmds9h/is_it_possible_to_get_a_pal_without_any_passive/

Looks like most guides just do a bunch of breeding, record the results and then calculate the odds based on the results.

So for each parent, there is a chance of inheriting 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 passives.

So there is a chance of 0 inherited. When a passive is not inherited, there is a chance of a random passive. Now if one assumes "no passive" is one of the possible random passives, then that is how I think you get the no passive from two pals with 1 passive each.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

Been hatching quiverns for several days. Probably have about 6 boxes full. A whole box of alphas. Not one of them have 0 passives. If the chances for a 0 passive from parents with passives exists then it's the lowest chance for anything in breeding. I'm talking less common than the perfect IV alpha with all the 4 traits you wanted (provided you're starting with some perfect IVs somewhere).

However with eggs you find in the wild I've often gotten no passives.

Edit: Actually make that 9 boxes of Quiverns. I wanted multiple trait sets and needed a seperate one for when I make my Quivern Botan.

It could also be the chance gets much lower the more traits you have which would explain why I haven't seen one.

[wildbill]

ƬᗩԲԲվ님이 먼저 게시:

Been hatching quiverns for several days. Probably have about 6 boxes full. A whole box of alphas. Not one of them have 0 passives. If the chances for a 0 passive from parents with passives exists then it's the lowest chance for anything in breeding. I'm talking less common than the perfect IV alpha with all the 4 traits you wanted (provided you're starting with some perfect IVs somewhere).

However with eggs you find in the wild I've often gotten no passives.

Edit: Actually make that 9 boxes of Quiverns. I wanted multiple trait sets and needed a seperate one for when I make my Quivern Botan.

It could also be the chance gets much lower the more traits you have which would explain why I haven't seen one.

Yes, the chance of no passives is lower the more passives the two breeder have. Of course the best chance is from two with no passives.

[Nicodemous52]

I have yet to see a Cattiva without Coward. But I have seen a handful of Relaxasurs without glutton.

[wildbill]

Nicodemous52님이 먼저 게시:

I have yet to see a Cattiva without Coward. But I have seen a handful of Relaxasurs without glutton.

Yes, some pals seem to have an affinity for a specific passive. The Mimog usually has the Hard Skin passive. Very hard to get rid of it through breeding, but I have one with no passives at all.