Sphere cost

[datCookie]

Anyone else find that the higher level spheres are too costly to make in sufficient quantities for such a little catch rate % boost? I've got max level on effigy's, but even legendary spheres are barely 50% chance on pals above level 45.

Any tips?

I've been able to farm some ultra and legendary spheres from chests and scrap piles on the new island.

[MercuryRising]

As this is a survival game, by design having the top stuff isn't meant to be easy to maintain.

That aside though, if you desire better catch rates and an easier time making the top spheres, you can change your world settings to up the general capture rate for pals in addition to the effigy boost, and increase the the resource rate by up to 3, and this should significantly improve things for you.

If you rather not mess with the world settings like that then yes, the other best way is what you are doing, gathering from scraps and chests in high level areas/dungeons.

[Nicodemous52]

Yes, and no. They are costly when you are first able to make them. But one of the best gold farming methods currently in the game is to sell legendary spheres.

IF you are playing the long game, building up an army for the raids. Trying to catch 12 of everything, at some point, you'll get there if your bases are set up at least somewhat efficiently.

To help soften the blow, I you can carry like three lvls of spheres. Say mega, giga, and ultra. And just use the lowest one you can most of the time (determined by their lvl, your lvl, your capture lvl, ect so if you have a decent chance with the mega, use it. If you don't, don't use it use the next one up and so on)

Let me ask you, what materials are you struggling with specifically? Is it ingots, or cement, or?

[Dagoth Earth]

Spheres are painful until you've optimised your base automation. There's a lot of levelling and pal capture/breeding before you get there, but once you've got tier 4s working on your stone/metal farms and a renewable supply of oil (or the oil rig on farm), it's not hard to keep spheres rolling through. You can cycle surplus metal through a refrigerated crusher to cover your paldium supply, or just run dungeons and clean out the ore nodes in them for it. Set up a dedicated mining base on an oil node as your primary and you should be set.

[Terminal Desolation]

The Ore Mining facilities combined with the Refrigerated Crusher really does make a huge difference. Put the Ore 2 node at the base with my Anubises that I use for handicraft so they're always mining or transporting ore when they're not crafting, within a couple days I had a whole row of 9999 stacked ore. Refrigerated Crusher lets me turn that into 4998 Paldium Crystals very comfortably. I'm essentially sitting on infinite resources at this point, the only limiting factors to ANY of my crafting stems almost entirely from Oil production.

[Nauct]

I can't stand survival games mindlessly farming mats. The only reason I like this game is because I don't have to spend any time farming. Initially a little bit, but then you can automate.

Second base, when the game came out, I made a mining base around natural ores, now you can just build an ore farming building. I have it all set up around the pal station, so I grab thousands of ore/stone/wood, fast travel to main base, set it all up to be processed.

You go through 1000s of balls and tons of ammo. If you don't have it automated it's gonna take you 100x as long

[dachte]

One of the cool things about Palworld is that it's not pure action - the base-building part matters; if you take the time to master this part of the game then it won't be a problem.

The only annoying thing about it is without investing some time in breeding, it doesn't come together super well - I've fairly frequently left the game running while cleaning my apartment or reading journals or doing other chores so time will pass, for breeding. This is a bit much for people who are not really, really into this kind of stuff (I have a spreadsheet). It's not hard to get ok results though even if you're not perfectionist; everything needed to make the upper-level spheres can be done with passive effort, letting you either adventure or leave the game running for awhile.

[Anndy578]

honestly you're almost always better off just tossing out cheap ones until you get the cap. even at 1% you'll eventually get it

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Terminal Desolation:

Put the Ore 2 node at the base with my Anubises that I use for handicraft so they're always mining or transporting ore when they're not crafting,

Random thought: What is the deal with the 2nd Ore mining station anyway?
What advantages does it have over the 1st one? It just seems to be bigger and takes up more space, but they're both a source of infinite ore... so why bother with a bigger one?
Is it because more Pals can be assigned to it at the same time?

[Nicodemous52]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Originally posted by Terminal Desolation:

Put the Ore 2 node at the base with my Anubises that I use for handicraft so they're always mining or transporting ore when they're not crafting,

Random thought: What is the deal with the 2nd Ore mining station anyway?
What advantages does it have over the 1st one? It just seems to be bigger and takes up more space, but they're both a source of infinite ore... so why bother with a bigger one?
Is it because more Pals can be assigned to it at the same time?

It's kind of like the difference between the cooking pot and the electric kitchen. You don't get more options like with the kitchen, but it speeds up the process. It gives you more ore, faster.

[datCookie]

A lot of people have talked about "automation" and ending up with thousands of materials. I'm a little confused as to what extent automation goes to.

I'e got a mining base set up, full of level 4 mining and watering pals, several ore/stone/coal/sulphur nodes with 2 miners on each and I'm getting plenty of materials from that.

I've got an electric furnace and a level 4 kindling pal, but the materials you need for higher tier spheres are things you then have to spend the time making at the high tier benches (cement and carbon fibre), or things like refined/pal metal ingots. Is there a way to automate the making of these? Or do you just have to check back in time when you've got heaps of the base materials and queue up a massive build order?

I've got 3 kelpsea pals in a farm for pal fluids, I can buy bones from a captured trader (both needed for cement) and I've got over 10k wood I use to make heaps of charcoal. It just seems like the cost and time required to make ultra/legendary spheres is absurd vs the effectiveness of them when going up against pals that are level 40+ (and knocked down to 1hp).

[Nicodemous52]

Originally posted by datCookie:

A lot of people have talked about "automation" and ending up with thousands of materials. I'm a little confused as to what extent automation goes to.

I'e got a mining base set up, full of level 4 mining and watering pals, several ore/stone/coal/sulphur nodes with 2 miners on each and I'm getting plenty of materials from that.

I've got an electric furnace and a level 4 kindling pal, but the materials you need for higher tier spheres are things you then have to spend the time making at the high tier benches (cement and carbon fibre), or things like refined/pal metal ingots. Is there a way to automate the making of these? Or do you just have to check back in time when you've got heaps of the base materials and queue up a massive build order?

I've got 3 kelpsea pals in a farm for pal fluids, I can buy bones from a captured trader (both needed for cement) and I've got over 10k wood I use to make heaps of charcoal. It just seems like the cost and time required to make ultra/legendary spheres is absurd vs the effectiveness of them when going up against pals that are level 40+ (and knocked down to 1hp).

Yeah, you can't fully automate the whole process. Basically when you get enough materials you can set up huge work orders, and then when you collect the resources or if you pals are doing it well enough you have to then go order those resources be turned into whatever.

By automated, they mean it basically does it itself, but you do still have to manage it. For instance, at my main base I have 1 logging site, 1 stone pit, 3 ore II sites, 1 coal pit, and one sulfer pit. In addition I have two improved furnaces and 4 electric furnaces. Then I have 3 production II lines, 1 sphere II line, and one weapons II line. That base has 6 anubis, and then a bunch of other pals that do kindling and mining or kindling and transport.

I just check in on the various pits once in a while to make sure they don't get full and shut down, and I load up the furnaces with in between outings and pretty much everything is always running. IF i set up crafting work, it's always done when I come back. That's what they mean by automation. You can set and forget it. But you still have to set it at every stage of the process.

And the cost is a bit absurd until you are sitting on moutains of resorces. But, if you try using the weak balls, they often just don't even work at all. On the new island, it's hard to catch much of anything without an ultimate ball unless you are lvl 55 and have maxed catch rate. Even then, you can't really use lower than a Legendary over there. So, they they are expensive, but they are the only ones that really work for end game.

[Nicodemous52]

I'd also encourage you to not overlook butchering pals. It's a great resource. I have a giant pile of souls and bones because I mass breed and slaughter Anubis. Not every pal is wroth breeding just to slaughter, but many of them are.

That's especially true of your alpha pals. I slaughter everyone I don't plan to use for breeding, that's why I have more ancient civ parts than I can ever use.

[Irene ❤]

Originally posted by Nicodemous52:

I'd also encourage you to not overlook butchering pals.

This!
haha

[dachte]

WRT butchering, do you not do condensation?

Usually by the time I breed a pal with the perfect passives, I just barely have condensed enough that I can make one of them 4-star (not generally two). I pretty much never have any left for butchering (and I'm kind of horrified at the idea of butchering; too soft-hearted I guess).

[Lazy Dog Daddy]

Get a flyer , go around desert , snow and lava areas , and the new island , chest and junk piles .. loot those over and over to get free sphere of all type beside ultimate .

Otherwise 2 oil+mining base , 1 farm , 1 breeding , should keep you afloat easy ..

Been mentionned before but always use the lower tier sphere 1st , sometimes you dont need the legendary or ultimate one

Happy hunting