PSA about breeding IVs

[Raven]

Maybe everyone already knows, but I didn't. This is in case anyone else is like me and just kinda dumb.

After breeding literally hundreds of eggs to get a flawless IV pal, I realized something as I got super close. Its *EXTREMELY* unlikely your IVs will go up the higher your IVs are. What winds up happening is your parents IVs are precisely what's passed down. So I was winding up with a bunch that were 100/99/92 and they were all that.

Don't make the mistake of repeatedly breeding those parents. you want something with a flawless stat, regardless of whatever the others are, and breed it until you get an offspring with both stats flawless (regardless of whatever the third stat is) then you need to breed that with another one with the third missing flawless stat.

If you keep just "trying to breed up", you'll wind up with something like I did, but it won't ever exceed the parents stats save that I get that literally 1% chance their stat goes up.

TL;DR: Don't breed up for IVs, just get something with a flawless stat from the start and breed until you pass on the flawless stats onto one child, then breed that child with whatever is the missing flawless stat until you get your flawless IVs

[Raven]

Originally posted by Mackenzie:

I see the IV values as well and they can go higher or lower than the parents at random.

From thousands of cakes of testing and breeding multiple perfect IV Pal teams for various loadouts and playstyles for many players now - from my experience it seems around a 33% chance to inherit the IV from Ma, 33% from Pa and 33% to roll the IV randomly from 0 - 100 just like the game does when spawning a new wild Pal into the world. The figurative dice are rolled once per IV (Health, Attack, Defense).

Furthermore, wild Pals spawn with 4 randomized IVs; Health ,Attack (Ranged), Attack (Melee) and Defense. For any and all bred Pals (unlike wild Pals), they will always have the same Ranged and Melee IVs.

I've gotten a 100 health IV from 16 IV + 9 IV jetragon parents and I've gotten 0 health IV from 100 IV + 100 IV jetragon parents.

I didn't say that it's impossible, its that it's significantly lower. Also you're kinda making my point further, if you use two parents WITH a max IV stat, you have a significantly higher chance of the child to inherit the parents direct IV stat as opposed to relying on the RNG roll to get it for you. I've seen wildly different stats too, but the far more *consistent* thing is to get the parent's stats. Which is the point of this whole topic.

Side note: Your avatar really confused me at first because I didn't remember saying that stuff before I realized you were a different user :P

[Mackenzie]

Originally posted by Raven:

I didn't say that it's impossible, its that it's significantly lower. Also you're kinda making my point further, if you use two parents WITH a max IV stat, you have a significantly higher chance of the child to inherit the parents direct IV stat as opposed to relying on the RNG roll to get it for you. I've seen wildly different stats too, but the far more *consistent* thing is to get the parent's stats. Which is the point of this whole topic.

Side note: Your avatar really confused me at first because I didn't remember saying that stuff before I realized you were a different user :P

Just sharing my IV breeding experiences, wasn't trying to discredit what anyone else has said to be clear.

Ahh, haha yeah. Had this avatar since it first released in the points shop, it's a nice one!

If say you can only get the target Pal from breeding two of the same target Pals together (legendaries, Jormuntide Ignis) - and the wilds/alphas you caught of them don't have 100 IVs, your best bet is to just spam the lottery with eggs for as many breeding pairs of the target as you can until you get some 100 rolls and then start mashing them together, preferably alongside desired passive skills.

[PantsuMask]

honestly i've only bred like four times... I thought it was for like rare eggs for new pals. I guess, i should start trying to make strong pals; of pals i like. I also wasn't using the same pal type i was kinda frankinstein' it.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Mackenzie:

If say you can only get the target Pal from breeding two of the same target Pals together (legendaries, Jormuntide Ignis) - and the wilds/alphas you caught of them don't have 100 IVs, your best bet is to just spam the lottery with eggs for as many breeding pairs of the target as you can until you get some 100 rolls and then start mashing them together, preferably alongside desired passive skills.

^This is more or less my advice too. My mistake was always trying to hit "minimums", like the offspring *HAD* to have minimum 90 in all IVs in order for me to "qualify" it to breed with the next one to keep breeding up (I kid you not, I did this for well over 500 eggs before I realized what was going on, hence I made this topic)

Absolute waste. Just hatch eggs and then keep any with a flawless IV, and preferably one of each gender and then just breed those until the flawless stat transfers to child

[playezr]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Soren:

I am using a mod that lets me see the actual IVs, I have several lucky pals that don't even break 75 in any stat

Whats the mod?

[Khergit Horse Archer]

just google palworld iv mod but do not use mods if u r new to modding, incorrect installation and uninstall will cause issues. make sure to read everything before attempting it.

if u r not an "advanced" user jus dont do it

[these people]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by these people:

While we're on the topic, is there a way to tell what the IVs are without leveling and checking the values? I haven't quite gotten to the madness of trying to breed perfect IVs, but I know I'll get there eventually.

There is a mod you can get that just tells you what the IVs are without having to use a calculator. Calculators are great, but you'd have to level anything at least to 30 before the calculator gets within the "known" range

That's what I suspected. I'm playing on dedicated servers with friends so I'm not sure if client-only mods are a thing for this game (though I imagine this one would be), and that does feel a little cheaty. When I totally run out of things to breed maybe I'll start catching and leveling Pals to find those perfect IVs. Thanks for the tips!

[Raven]

Originally posted by these people:

Originally posted by Raven:

There is a mod you can get that just tells you what the IVs are without having to use a calculator. Calculators are great, but you'd have to level anything at least to 30 before the calculator gets within the "known" range

That's what I suspected. I'm playing on dedicated servers with friends so I'm not sure if client-only mods are a thing for this game (though I imagine this one would be), and that does feel a little cheaty. When I totally run out of things to breed maybe I'll start catching and leveling Pals to find those perfect IVs. Thanks for the tips!

It is client based, all it does is display the IVs. It's not really "cheaty", since you could do it all by calculator. But why make a very long process even longer by doing it all manually when you can just hatch and egg and know if a pal is worth the investment or not? It's going to happen eventually if someone is dedicated enough, its just cutting out excessive hours of doing levels for manual calculation

edit: For the record, you can't see IVs in the wild so you know "what to catch". The IVs are ONLY visible inside your palbox and to the merchants you can sell pals to

edit 2: and actually as far as IVs go, until there is some actual PvP content and stuff that we don't even know how it will be handled, the 30% increase is generally not that big of a game changer.

[BoxingBud]

You get glasses you can make later that display any and all ivs, even your pals that is out on the field's. Also displays the highlighted pal's ivs in the base box menu. The glasses, forget the level tech, aren't that difficult to make or get. Makes IV breeding easy, and you want those 100s. And the only way to have a chance at getting them IS breeding for two 100s in into single pals, then using those and the third 100 IV pal, into their offspring. Even then with two parents at 100 IVs for all three stats, still a 40% chance overall for their kids to have all three at 100.

[Raven]

Originally posted by BoxingBud:

You get glasses you can make later that display any and all ivs, even your pals that is out on the field's. Also displays the highlighted pal's ivs in the base box menu. The glasses, forget the level tech, aren't that difficult to make or get. Makes IV breeding easy, and you want those 100s. And the only way to have a chance at getting them IS breeding for two 100s in into single pals, then using those and the third 100 IV pal, into their offspring. Even then with two parents at 100 IVs for all three stats, still a 40% chance overall for their kids to have all three at 100.

You necro'd a near year old topic over something that didn't exist at the time of the post.

[Galroche]

well, since it's necroed now,i'll add you could also rely on Dr Brawn, he can if you are lucky boost your pal IV which can be usefull when you are only missing a bit to perfect.

edit : typo

[Soren]

Originally posted by Galroche:

well, since it's necroed now,i'll add you could also rely on Dr Brawn, he can if you are lucky boss your pal IV which can be usefull when you are only missing a bit to perfect.

You mean boost the IVs by like 1-3? Sorta like some other pokemon-like games (coromon for example).

[BoxingBud]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by BoxingBud:

You get glasses you can make later that display any and all ivs, even your pals that is out on the field's. Also displays the highlighted pal's ivs in the base box menu. The glasses, forget the level tech, aren't that difficult to make or get. Makes IV breeding easy, and you want those 100s. And the only way to have a chance at getting them IS breeding for two 100s in into single pals, then using those and the third 100 IV pal, into their offspring. Even then with two parents at 100 IVs for all three stats, still a 40% chance overall for their kids to have all three at 100.

You necro'd a near year old topic over something that didn't exist at the time of the post.

The topic was one I searched on. Necroing usually brings up a thing that's not relevant in order to "troll" if you think that's it you should report me.

Originally posted by Soren:

Originally posted by Galroche:

well, since it's necroed now,i'll add you could also rely on Dr Brawn, he can if you are lucky boss your pal IV which can be usefull when you are only missing a bit to perfect.

You mean boost the IVs by like 1-3? Sorta like some other pokemon-like games (coromon for example).

What's this?

EDIT: Looked up this individual and also it's easy to "spawn" him in the world going between spawn locations! Will have to catch one. I havent' checked to see if it's a one dose, I have plenty 100/100/100 pals either way so this will be good to test on pals that almost made the cut IV wise.