Palworld

Palworld

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Wushiba Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:18am
Why the Pokémon Inspiration is not a big deal
Every movie, game, book, manga, comic takes it's inspiration from somewhere. Pretty much no truely original work exists anymore, everything is just a mishmash of already existing ideas, combined in interesting ways to create something new.

Just because the Pokémon inspiration is clear in Palworld that doesn't mean Palworld is doing anything wrong or out of the ordinary.

Other well known games have taken inspiration from the things that came before them as well, creating something new and unique, yet strangely it doesn't seem to be as big of an issue in their case:

For example:
Any FPS game after Doom - Inspired by Doom
Dark Souls - Inspired by the comic Berserk
Hollow Knight - Inspired by Dark Souls
Mortal Kombat - Inspired by the movie Enter The Dragon (1973)
Uncharted - Inspired by Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider - Inspired by Indiana Jones
God of War 4 & 5 - Inspired by The Last of Us
The Last of Us - (probably) Inspired by the movie Léon: The Professional (1994)

It is a common practice to borrow ideas, mechanics or certain art styles from other sources when creating something new. It is pointless to argue about copyright issues and other things, the companies will handle these things between eachother.

Also, if you're worried about Palworld being taken down from Steam due to a lawsuit or something similar then don't. There are examples of games that are no longer purchasable on Steam for different reasons, but everyone who bought them already are able to keep them and play them just like before. Examples for this: Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition, Mortal Kombat 9, Spec Ops: The Line.
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Benjamin Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:23am 
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.
Wushiba Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.

Why do you feel that using that mechanic needs a defense in the first place?
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Machaon Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:38am 
Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.

The Mechanic with monsters/things/toys stored in balls is originally not from pokemon. In Japan storing things in Balls (or Capsules) is often used.
Dragonball as a prominent example had Capsules before pokemon (not for monsters though).
The Gashapon are a whole Industry with toys in Balls found in the 1960s. Many of you know them, when you were a child. I knew them before Pokemon.
Having Monsters in Capsules to fight for you was copied from the Japanese TV-Show "Ultraseven" from the 1960s.
Pokemon replace the real world animals. Many are simple Copies of real animals (rat, mouse, cow, insects, etc.)

Pokemon just merged all of that.
Charlie Foxtrot Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.

I mean, in that case Pokemon would have to defend the idea of mythological type monsters being stored in a device due to the existence of Digimon (which came first), then a device that's meant to be an encyclopedia+analyzer on the world's monsters, and the idea of evolving a monster into something even stronger before your very eyes.

I think the idea of capturing overpowered creatures and using them for your gain has been around since ancient times and worldwide.
Stinboi Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:14am 
i dont get why people not just play it if its they enjoy it, and leave it alone if not, im sure Nintendo dont need anyones help if they feels its a copyright issue :D
bump, megami tensei
Gul Bjorn Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:06am 
poke'mon wasn't the first of it's genre.
Wushiba Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by Machaon:
Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.

The Mechanic with monsters/things/toys stored in balls is originally not from pokemon. In Japan storing things in Balls (or Capsules) is often used.
Dragonball as a prominent example had Capsules before pokemon (not for monsters though).
The Gashapon are a whole Industry with toys in Balls found in the 1960s. Many of you know them, when you were a child. I knew them before Pokemon.
Having Monsters in Capsules to fight for you was copied from the Japanese TV-Show "Ultraseven" from the 1960s.
Pokemon replace the real world animals. Many are simple Copies of real animals (rat, mouse, cow, insects, etc.)

Pokemon just merged all of that.

Well said. I forgot that they were using capsules in Dragon Ball as well which shrunk the size of the stored object, allowing characters to carry a spaceship in their pockets for example. In Pokémon they simply changed the shape of the capsules into balls, in Palworld they changed them into spheres.
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ObliviousMischief Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:15am 
A fun example would be the Uncharted series. It was inspired by Tomb Raider, but leaned more on story and some arcade shooting instead of the platforming. Eventually, Tomb Raider follows the Uncharted gameplay.

I really really love Pokemon. So much so that I missed so many good games on 3DS cause I only had Pokemon in my head. I personally have no hate whatsoever for this game and find some of the reactions to it very weird. (and weirdly entertaining.) One day, these people will grow up and will cringe at what they thought was the right thing to do OR they remain the same and will be even more amusing. (or sad. however you want to see it)

As for the lawsuit, if there was something to be taken to court about, The Pokemon Company (not Nintendo) would have already gone after it after the first release of the trailer. And it would have even been very easy given the fact that both companies are Japanese. The dispute would be local. And TPC will undoubtedly annihilate PP.

I had a good laugh when TPC issued a statement that they will be investigating PP. How many emails from these idiots did they receive that they had to make a statement in the hopes of shutting them up? There was no other suspect. Those guys were seriously triggered by Palworld's existence. So beautiful. (or sad, however you want to see it)

I actually had very little expectations for this game. The first trailer I saw, it looked like it didn't even know what it wants to be. But I was surprised that it turned out to be actually fun. What hooked me in is that it had base management that's comparable to Dragon Quest Builders. (I heard the game is on steam now if you're curious) Both involve you having to consider pathing and individual behaviors of Pals (villagers for DQB) to effectively make an efficient base.

I guess I really just enjoy this kind of gameplay. I also enjoy Pokemon. Impossible, I know.
Sr Humungus Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:18am 
And it is not doing anything, problems come with fanbase, pokemon fanbase was waiting for something like this game but other company had an idea and made this jewel.

Because of that, is more easy throw his angry here than going to nintendo and tell them to improve, because they did it in the past without result.

At the end, we enjoy the game with his flaws, hoping for the best but nintendo fanbase only have his angry and fustration with their dreams broken, for all of them, try to enjoy a new vision and gameplay, nothing lasts forever.
Kindred Spirit Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:36am 
If this game is in any way a knockoff then Pokemon is absolutely derivative of Dragon Quest and Shin Megami Tensei, just tuned down for pre-teens.

Pokemon is the Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest of RPG franchises.
lumina Feb 18, 2024 @ 6:51am 
Pokemon stole from other too, and this isn't even close to the first to take from Pokemon. Again, I don't even get all of this talk. If you are going to claim this game ripped someone off, it would be ARK lol. This game is 100% ARK but with pokemon instead.

But what do regular people care about any of this? If someone gets sued, you aren't getting any of it. Why are people upset about more good games for us, even if they are rip offs? If they stole enough of the design, then some courts will make them pay the people they took it from their share anyways.
Wushiba Feb 18, 2024 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by ObliviousMischief:
As for the lawsuit, if there was something to be taken to court about, The Pokemon Company (not Nintendo) would have already gone after it after the first release of the trailer. And it would have even been very easy given the fact that both companies are Japanese. The dispute would be local. And TPC will undoubtedly annihilate PP.

What would even be the reason for the lawsuit if it happened? To my knowledge you cannot copyright specific lines, colors, shapes and styles. Just because a creature's eyes are similar to a Pokémon's eyes that doesn't mean that the same eye haven't been drawn a thousand times before Pokémon even existed.

Originally posted by ObliviousMischief:
I had a good laugh when TPC issued a statement that they will be investigating PP. How many emails from these idiots did they receive that they had to make a statement in the hopes of shutting them up? There was no other suspect. Those guys were seriously triggered by Palworld's existence. So beautiful. (or sad, however you want to see it)

That's pretty funny actually. People take this game and Pokémon way too seriously sometimes. I know these games mean a lot to a lot of people, but even if the Palworld Devs literally broke into the office of the Pokémon Devs and stole their designs that doesn't hurt the already existing or future Pokémon games. If anything Pokémon could learn from how the creatures in Palworld behave in the open world.

Originally posted by ObliviousMischief:
I actually had very little expectations for this game. The first trailer I saw, it looked like it didn't even know what it wants to be. But I was surprised that it turned out to be actually fun.

Same here. I was really surprised at how much fun the game is and you can actually play the entire thing coop unlike Pokémon.
Wushiba Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by lumina:
Pokemon stole from other too, and this isn't even close to the first to take from Pokemon. Again, I don't even get all of this talk. If you are going to claim this game ripped someone off, it would be ARK lol. This game is 100% ARK but with pokemon instead.

True, people who call this Pokémon with guns probably haven't played the game, it's a survival game before anything else. I look at Palworld as if I'm playing Valheim, but instead of real life animals there are fantasy creatures around.

Originally posted by lumina:
But what do regular people care about any of this? If someone gets sued, you aren't getting any of it. Why are people upset about more good games for us, even if they are rip offs? If they stole enough of the design, then some courts will make them pay the people they took it from their share anyways.

Some of them are paid to do this, some of them are brainwashed, others are mentally ill, so we shouldn't attack them or make fun of them, we should just ignore their attempts at negativity and let them sit in their own personal hell that they live in every day. They are doing this is to get a reaction out of people, so when they don't get that then it's torture for them, then all of their efforts become meaningless.
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MrSoul Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by Benjamin:
It's a little harder to defend when certain mechanics (ie. monsters being stored in balls) is directly copied from pokemon.
Wellp in that case, ID and Bethesda gonna have a busy year going after every game where you use the mechanic of shooting something with a gun and taking Hp dmg as a first person avatar xD
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