Pirated copies are part of the huge cheating problem

[fkr]

If you didn't know pirated copies of the game palworld right now, as the game is, are being able to play online.

Add some kind of drm and a solid anti-cheat like EAC (OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE) and you will see the problem almost disappering. That s the truth.
We cant have nice things

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Moonlightfox:

That's not how any of those things work. You're just making things up

Oh, Okay, Feel free to explain?

[Gasboy]

Originally posted by meh:

I don't fkn cares if he runs into me or not, i dont want him not even to take the chance.

Lol, figures.

I hope they do stick DRM on it, and that it makes it so you can't play or buggers up your computer. I'll enjoy the tears then.

[✠Tommy✠]

DRM only harms the people that paid for the game, pirates disable it completely with ease.

[fkr]

Too busy drinking pirate tears, the taste of unfathomable sadness, mmm yummi

[Sagebrush]

DRM is just garbage. Luckily, the devs seem the sensible sort with the declaration that the anti-cheat will be optional for singleplayer and private servers.

[Kasa]

As some one here who does pirate games and will not apologies here is my 2 cents.

People who pirate games ether have no intention of paying for the game to begin with and thus is not a loss sale, that would assume they would purchase the game if they could no pirate it which is not the case.

Or they pirate the game, confirm they enjoy the game and purchase it, thus is a gained sale.

Piracy and cheating has nothing to do with each other and its idiotic to associate one with the other.

DRM does not stop piracy, never has, never will. The only thing DRM does is make life miserable for players due to it causing errors and excessive performance drop on games.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/darkwood-dev-releases-game-on-pirate-bay-because-o/1100-6452880/

While releasing there game for free to pirate as people please Acid Wizard Studio managed to sell nearly 600k units on steam and 1.5 million units total.

Almost like piracy had little to no effect on their sales huh?

https://vginsights.com/game/274520
https://www.pcgamer.com/darkwood-studio-releases-new-games-alpha-then-promptly-says-its-going-on-hiatus-but-may-return-in-5-10-years-when-we-get-our-s-together/

As of now, the cheaters are strictly their own group of problem makers. People who want to do nothing but make other lives miserable for their own amusement.

The best pocketpair can due is work towards anti-cheat measures but bigger companies have tried and failed, if anything they should give up on hosting public servers as this is not an mmo and let people host their own servers / multiplayer sessions.

[shinjay5882]

World of Warcraft is a HUGE game and it still hasnt solve all the cheats and bots. Sure it will help a little with the cheating but it wont solve it completely, which is the problem. Then it will only harm the legit users.

[🙈🧬👨‍💻🥽Jerry ✡️ VRcia⛐🏁✈️🏓]

Originally posted by Gasboy:

Originally posted by meh:

I don't fkn cares if he runs into me or not, i dont want him not even to take the chance.

Lol, figures.

I hope they do stick DRM on it, and that it makes it so you can't play or buggers up your computer. I'll enjoy the tears then.

you and others in this thread think you sound smart coming from that angle, but you're fighting the wrong fight. two wrongs, a right they don't make. pirating single player games is also not the same as playing that pirated copy on their official servers. they have every right to crack down on that as they pay for the hosting, and you agreed to their EULA.

https://twitter.com/Palworld_EN/status/1758485035517374815

non-cheaters with legit copies may impact the experience in any game, or life in general. that's not the same as bad actors making the experience even worse. you're bringing nothing to the discussion besides being a contrarian. people in this thread are impacting my life experience right this moment with their bad takes.

but what do i know, i don't play the latest flavor of the month stuff. i also don't think i deserve everything under the sun for free.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Kasa:

DRM does not stop piracy, never has, never will. The only thing DRM does is make life miserable for players due to it causing errors and excessive performance drop on games.
.

Wether you 'pirate' for 'demo use' or wether you pirate, either way is wrong.

It does take away sales from companys. I dont know what makes you think pirating games doesnt take sales? Everything pirated is a potential sale lost because people didnt pay for a product.

Also, DRM has been discussed to deat, and in most causes, DRM doesnt actually generally cause performance drop on games.

Yes, I know, You're gonna mention Denuvo now.


Maybe stop buying potatoe PC's.

Also 1.5 million sales across 7 years is incredible bad. You also have to take into account that discount sales are a thing. This game litterally had its first 40% sale only 3-4 months after release and has been on sale almost every month.

[Guest In Disguise]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Kasa:

DRM does not stop piracy, never has, never will. The only thing DRM does is make life miserable for players due to it causing errors and excessive performance drop on games.
.

Wether you 'pirate' for 'demo use' or wether you pirate, either way is wrong.

It does take away sales from companys. I dont know what makes you think pirating games doesnt take sales? Everything pirated is a potential sale lost because people didnt pay for a product.

Also, DRM has been discussed to deat, and in most causes, DRM doesnt actually generally cause performance drop on games.

Yes, I know, You're gonna mention Denuvo now.


Maybe stop buying potatoe PC's.

Also 1.5 million sales across 7 years is incredible bad.

I agree that the people who complain about "Denuvo" bad got 2005 computer wonder why they can't run any games with max graphics 4k blames it on a software

[Voldski]

Originally posted by meh:

Originally posted by Gasboy:

How would you know? You've got proof, right? Else you're just talking out your ass.



DRM does not fix piracy. It hasn't fixed piracy for as long as DRM existed. As long as the pirates are getting a better experience than people who have legit purchased the game, piracy will continue to exist.

Dude check on google. On sub like like r/PiratedGames right now are worried that the new patch might lock them from playing the game
What you think i gain from talking out of my ass?

People that are able to crack DENUVO right now is just empress, and she is a crazy ♥♥♥♥♥,She wont do the job if you dont pay her.
The others disappered

Think they long since given up on the goal of entirely prevent piracy, think modern DRM is more supposed to secure against piracy first couple month of release to attempt enhance launch sales. How much it actually works given Denuvo for instance probably also taking a cut for using their anti piracy software vs what extra profit it may or may not be would be interesting to know. Since GOG still seem to have success with DRM free copy sales and games launching on GOG during release still seem to make money.

[4InchsOfFury]

i've played games that are f2p and buy/sub to play and they still get plagued with cheaters , although the perfect world would be to stop cheaters from being able to access the game its an issue thats plagued all online games since the conception of multi player. many still have cheaters over 20 years after its launch proving its not an easily tackled issue. I get the frustration , ive made some friends during my play time and we now play on a group server rather then official. frustrating to have to do but with the right group of friends the cheating wont even effect you. I hope they can fix it but not expecting it to ever be 100% cheat free as time has shown in many examples its a task even the most seasoned vets cant complete.

[maximhernando44]

I have a pirated copy with which I have tested the game, currently I do not buy it but when you add as contendos and patches if you have much potential for that is the piracy to see what is missing envede harm others in the online.
they have to improve:
-base range
-You can select the jobs to which you really assign the pal to avoid errors with others by the proximity of elements.
- structures according to the graphics do not look good with the environment.
-more variety of pals and skills (where as healers?)
....


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[fkr]

Originally posted by 🏌 HAPPY 🍕 TAIWANESE NEW YEAR 🏓:

Originally posted by Gasboy:

Lol, figures.

I hope they do stick DRM on it, and that it makes it so you can't play or buggers up your computer. I'll enjoy the tears then.

you and others in this thread think you sound smart coming from that angle, but you're fighting the wrong fight. two wrongs, a right they don't make. pirating single player games is also not the same as playing that pirated copy on their official servers. they have every right to crack down on that as they pay for the hosting, and you agreed to their EULA.

https://twitter.com/Palworld_EN/status/1758485035517374815

non-cheaters with legit copies may impact the experience in any game, or life in general. that's not the same as bad actors making the experience even worse. you're bringing nothing to the discussion besides being a contrarian. people in this thread are impacting my life experience right this moment with their bad takes.

but what do i know, i don't play the latest flavor of the month stuff. i also don't think i deserve everything under the sun for free.

:AngryCuckold:

Dont waste time brother, dude's just a pirating apologist and he's ok even with cheating, immagine that.

Originally posted by ✠Tommy✠:

DRM only harms the people that paid for the game, pirates disable it completely with ease.

Press X to doubt.

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Kasa:

DRM does not stop piracy, never has, never will. The only thing DRM does is make life miserable for players due to it causing errors and excessive performance drop on games.
.

Wether you 'pirate' for 'demo use' or wether you pirate, either way is wrong.

It does take away sales from companys. I dont know what makes you think pirating games doesnt take sales? Everything pirated is a potential sale lost because people didnt pay for a product.

Also, DRM has been discussed to deat, and in most causes, DRM doesnt actually generally cause performance drop on games.

Yes, I know, You're gonna mention Denuvo now.


Maybe stop buying potatoe PC's.

Also 1.5 million sales across 7 years is incredible bad. You also have to take into account that discount sales are a thing. This game litterally had its first 40% sale only 3-4 months after release and has been on sale almost every month.

Amazing

[✠Tommy✠]

Originally posted by meh:

Originally posted by 🏌 HAPPY 🍕 TAIWANESE NEW YEAR 🏓:

you and others in this thread think you sound smart coming from that angle, but you're fighting the wrong fight. two wrongs, a right they don't make. pirating single player games is also not the same as playing that pirated copy on their official servers. they have every right to crack down on that as they pay for the hosting, and you agreed to their EULA.

https://twitter.com/Palworld_EN/status/1758485035517374815

non-cheaters with legit copies may impact the experience in any game, or life in general. that's not the same as bad actors making the experience even worse. you're bringing nothing to the discussion besides being a contrarian. people in this thread are impacting my life experience right this moment with their bad takes.

but what do i know, i don't play the latest flavor of the month stuff. i also don't think i deserve everything under the sun for free.

:AngryCuckold:

Dont waste time brother, dude's just a pirating apologist and he's ok even with cheating, immagine that.

Originally posted by ✠Tommy✠:

DRM only harms the people that paid for the game, pirates disable it completely with ease.

Press X to doubt.

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Wether you 'pirate' for 'demo use' or wether you pirate, either way is wrong.

It does take away sales from companys. I dont know what makes you think pirating games doesnt take sales? Everything pirated is a potential sale lost because people didnt pay for a product.

Also, DRM has been discussed to deat, and in most causes, DRM doesnt actually generally cause performance drop on games.

Yes, I know, You're gonna mention Denuvo now.


Maybe stop buying potatoe PC's.

Also 1.5 million sales across 7 years is incredible bad. You also have to take into account that discount sales are a thing. This game litterally had its first 40% sale only 3-4 months after release and has been on sale almost every month.

Amazing

Yes do press X to doubt as it was proven years ago that drm like denuvo does nothing besides making games run worse for the paid user