IV'S/PASSIVES R KILLING ME!!

[Vilient]

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[Red riding hood the third]

i'm not even bothering with IV's... UNTIL i'm done breeding my 800 handiwork pals for condensing

[kampfer91]

Same here , i just baffle that people on discord actually defend this , say " giving a sense of accomplishment " , bs , In what game that have mutator that reduce the stat the baby gonna receive from the parent ? Adding to possibly of passive skill appear even though the parent don't have it and someone gonna spend crap ton of time trying to breed for the right combination .

[Slatepaws]

I really think this should be ignored. this kind of stuff is part of the reason 'pokemon' is so stale. they started to cater to this crowed to fuel in person tournaments and events. Kinda like how microsoft more or less killed halo by obsessively focusing on the opinions of a small group of pvp 'esport' players over their entire audience.

[Raven]

Really not the point of the game, its not necessary. Breeding for passive skills/traits? sure, also not that hard. But min/maxing just for the sake of it when its not even something you're into is just a bunch of unneeded stress. Why would you do that to yourself? If you don't have any intention to be competitive and its not fun for you, why would you do it when the game literally has dozens of other things to do? IV/Stat management is there for those who are into that sort of thing. Base building is there for people who are into that sort of thing. Collecting lore bits or pals are there for people into that sort of thing. Don't get hung up on something that drives you crazy just because people suddenly realized its a thing in the game

[WonderSparks]

Originally posted by Raven:

Really not the point of the game, its not necessary. Breeding for passive skills/traits? sure, also not that hard. But min/maxing just for the sake of it when its not even something you're into is just a bunch of unneeded stress. Why would you do that to yourself? If you don't have any intention to be competitive and its not fun for you, why would you do it when the game literally has dozens of other things to do? IV/Stat management is there for those who are into that sort of thing. Base building is there for people who are into that sort of thing. Collecting lore bits or pals are there for people into that sort of thing. Don't get hung up on something that drives you crazy just because people suddenly realized its a thing in the game

^^^This right here. Play to have fun, don't go stressing yourself out if you can help it, that's not good for your health. (It can quite literally make you ill if you stress out too much)

[Kasa]

Straight up why I use the pal editor, there is no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way I'm going to try to breed for skills AND try to get max IVs.

With Pokemon EV's were fine as they gave a way to strategically customise your mon, but IVs? Eat a dill hole.

[Wild]

You're killing yourself... There isnt any NEED for perfect passive let alone perfect IV.
Grinding perfect passives/IV isnt fun? Then, don't do it.

[Rampage]

no idea why gamers always want to min max an already easy game....

[Noctoculus]

Originally posted by Rampage:

no idea why gamers always want to min max an already easy game....

in early access no less

[Red riding hood the third]

Originally posted by Noctoculus:

Originally posted by Rampage:

no idea why gamers always want to min max an already easy game....

in early access no less

i feel called out

[kampfer91]

People never appreciate for perfection and thus never understand why people try to do something to achieve the best result it can be .

It like fishing , to simple people , you only need a rod and a bait to catch a fish , but professional pick selected bait and go all theirs way to get into the best spot , somewhere a normal hommie would complain why it is so hard to go there .

The current mutator system should be changed to be more user-friendly and the casual crowd still benefit from it even if they don't care .

[Kasa]

@kampfer91

So try to explain to me in simple words, like I was 4.

How breeding 500+ pals / pokemon to get perfect IV's is fun?

Explain to me how sitting there for hours on end crafting cakes to wait for 2 pals to breed to wait for the egg to hatch only to repeat the process when it does not have perfect IVs "engaging" or "fun"?

How does it ADD to the game in a meaningful way?

Because from what I know of competitive pokemon NO ONE likes breeding for IVs and 9/10 pros will just pay some one to do it for them.

Your fishing example breaks down when you realise that selecting bait and location is purely just knowledge based, there is no wasted time or repetitive tasks.

It's as simple as knowing your target and purchasing the appropriate equipment and locating the most likely locations your target hangs around in.

Breeding for perfect IV's have none of that, it's a repetitive time consuming mind numbing task of doing the exact same thing over and over again followed by wasting time while you wait for them to breed / egg to hatch.

There is no skill, no anticipation just randomly chosen numbers and waiting.