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[UniQ]

so swift make your pal movement speed 30% faster, but this do not effect galeclaw from my short testing. bug??? however the other day, got myself a verdash with swift. verdash makes the player speed increase while its out with you. as it turns out, verdash is effected by speed passives. therefore the more speed passives it has, the faster the player movement speed increases as well. not 100% sure but it seem like while verdash is out, only then do galeclaw gets a mini boost???

[Red riding hood the third]

galeclaw is a glider, swift doesnt affect how fast it goes. condensing it does.

movement speed passives are for mounts

[UniQ]

verdash is not a mount but it's effected by passives. base vs swift, there is a definite difference in players movement speed.

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

galeclaw is a glider, swift doesnt affect how fast it goes. condensing it does.

movement speed passives are for mounts

[Red riding hood the third]

Verdash adds players movement speed in general, thats their special ability

[Wolfguarde]

I think this has to do with pal speed versus player speed. The passives affect the pal's speed, which is relevant when it's running around or mounted. However, glider pals are affecting the player's speed the way a normal glider would; it's a single stat that doesn't differentiate between crafted glider and living bird. Because it interacts with player speed, stuff like swift doesn't affect it.

Might be something that gets fixed in future, I don't know. But I'd hazard that's why it behaves as it currently does.

[UniQ]

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

Verdash adds players movement speed in general, thats their special ability

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

verdash makes the player speed increase while its out with you.

I'm aware, I'm saying swift,runner,and nimble on an verdash makes the player speed increase even more while verdash is out with player. I imagine what is happening is this. speed passives effect all pals base movement speed. verdash special add a percent of its base speed to the player, therefore speed passives are effective. galeclaw movement speed is not link to it glider speed hints why there is no differences. I'm just saying, It almost appears as if galeclaw is gettting a speed boost from verdash being out and granting I the player that speed boost.

[MilkMeSilly]

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

Verdash adds players movement speed in general, thats their special ability

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

verdash makes the player speed increase while its out with you.

I'm aware, I'm saying swift,runner,and nimble on an verdash makes the player speed increase even more while verdash is out with player. I imagine what is happening is this. speed passives effect all pals base movement speed. verdash special add a percent of its base speed to the player, therefore speed passives are effective. galeclaw movement speed is not link to it glider speed hints why there is no differences. I'm just saying, It almost appears as if galeclaw is gettting a speed boost from verdash being out and granting I the player that speed boost.

id say that you are right that would make perfect sense as if it was just a static number swift wouldn't effect the player, great observation. so for a galeclaw what just build a normal attack setup? cause there are no player speed passives

[UniQ]

well I say that the beauty of this game, build what you want. most will get mods for IVs and build their pal with legend muscle ferocious and lucky. 85% additional attack is no joke. but you will be grinding for days, and I personal don't want to deal with that breeding headache.

I currently am making a second best build for most my pals. vanguard and stronghold is a must as this grants me the player 10% attack and 10% defense, times this by five and you now have plus 50% Att and Def. mount pals with speed boost and others will get fero and burly. that grants the pal 20% att and def. all will be at least 2 stars condense and plus 15 atk def and hp souls.

not a perfect build but its more then enough for whats currently going on in game and hopefully future updates.

[Red riding hood the third]

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

Originally posted by Red riding hood the third:

Verdash adds players movement speed in general, thats their special ability

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

verdash makes the player speed increase while its out with you.

I'm aware, I'm saying swift,runner,and nimble on an verdash makes the player speed increase even more while verdash is out with player.

i just did a test using a verdash with legend, swift, runner, nimble and a verdash without any passive skills. Track is 17 walls long.
16.06 Vedash with speed passives.
15.98 Verdash without speed passives.
19.00 Normal walking speed.

did several tries and the track always takes around 16 seconds on either verdash.
swift made no difference.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3208026145

[WhySoSrS]

I suggest you test again. I have swift on Galeclaw and it most certainty increases the speed and distance at which Galeclaw glides. Try it from a standing position while on the ground. You will see a drastic difference in speed and distance with swift on one Galeclaw and not on another.

[Red riding hood the third]

Originally posted by WhySoSrS:

I suggest you test again. I have swift on Galeclaw and it most certainty increases the speed and distance at which Galeclaw glides. Try it from a standing position while on the ground. You will see a drastic difference in speed and distance with swift on one Galeclaw and not on another.

others commented about it not making a difference 2 months ago but i'll try it out later, there have been a few changes since then.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1ago9iv/so_gale_claw_with_swift/?rdt=63195
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1ax2740/do_passive_skills_stack_hatched_a_swiftrunner/

[MilkMeSilly]

Originally posted by UniQuinary:

well I say that the beauty of this game, build what you want. most will get mods for IVs and build their pal with legend muscle ferocious and lucky. 85% additional attack is no joke. but you will be grinding for days, and I personal don't want to deal with that breeding headache.

I currently am making a second best build for most my pals. vanguard and stronghold is a must as this grants me the player 10% attack and 10% defense, times this by five and you now have plus 50% Att and Def. mount pals with speed boost and others will get fero and burly. that grants the pal 20% att and def. all will be at least 2 stars condense and plus 15 atk def and hp souls.

not a perfect build but its more then enough for whats currently going on in game and hopefully future updates.

once you get started it gets a lot easier like i used my shadowbeak with muscle, legend, lord and ferocious and IVs that give it a 29.8% out of the 30% max attack buff (got without cheating) to get a few helzephyrs with all the same passives in just one batch of eggs and now im going to move it to a froststal noct. same for my ranch pal it took one batch each to get what i wanted and gave away extras you just need to get the breeding pairs set up. any pals you get with no passives keep them it makes it easier to pass passives on from already maxed pals