Confusion/Frustration with breeding pals (really need help)

[BenieTheDragon]

So I currently have two Orserks in a breeding pen. One of them (the Male) has Lord of Lightning (with Clumsy), and the other (the Female) has the passive skills I want (Lucky/Motivational Leader/Ferocious). They're a 'pureblood' with no white traits.
I've been at this for 6+ hours. I keep getting really close, but one gold passive skill is always missing. Talked this over with my friends (of our dedicated server) and they said I have to "breed down" all the skills one by one until I (assume) get purebloods with just gold skills.
Problem is (especially with Lord of Lightning), I can never get a pureblood with just that. It's always that + a non-gold (or two non-golds, or a gold that isn't related to what I want (with non-golds). It's next to impossible (for what it seems) to get a pureblood of just Lord of Lightning through breeding (it seems).

I am assuming the only way to truly get a 'pureblood' Lord of Lightning, is to go to "the illegal zone" as one of my friends calls them (the one off the coast of the desert (upper right side of the map)), and play the RNG game until I finally get one with just Lord of Lightning, and combine that with an Orserk I've bred that has Lord of Lightning plus 1 non-gold... and hope (again) RNG gives me another pureblood Lord of Lightning.

My friend (who claims it took him... 5 DAYS to just get an Orserk with Lord of Lightning (not through breeding, but catching)), doesn't fully remember. All he remembers is having to breed down each and every skill I want.
But there HAS to be a better way to cancel out those 'bad' traits for a pureblood...

[melonLord]

I think breeding can just be brutal like that, bro lol. If I had a dollar for every time I've just gone "GOOD ENOUGH!" and settled for 3 of the traits I wanted and one weak/useless trait... I'd probably at least have enough for a nice meal. lol

[Shadows]

Unfortunately their is a good amount of randomness in the passives being passed down, or randomly being added, but having only the passives you want on the parents does help.

Here is a good video that explains the system and also talks about IVs. I don't breed for IVs but they are good to know about if you really want to min-max.

https://youtu.be/7I1xb84kaPQ?si=3woA1gHFLCilPSkk

[ObliviousMischief]

As a disclaimer, I haven't really looked into guides and am just taking this from my experience with the game. I will just focus on getting the traits as I have no experience with getting the perfect IV's. My observations could be wrong though. But I've been trait hunting successfully using this knowledge:

- It seems easier for me to get all the 4 traits I want with the parents having 2 of the traits each and nothing else.

- If the parents have 3 traits each, the likeliness of getting a random trait is more likely for some reason. I use this when a pal is difficult to hunt and I want a certain trait that none of the parents have. I gacha the fuack out of it. And it somehow works.

- There is always a chance to get a child with just 1 or 2 trait or just plain a full copy of a parent.

With that in mind, just keep breeding. Set aside the pals that get 1 or 2 traits. Breed the pals with 1 trait to make a pal with 2 traits. then finally when you have 2 parents with 2 different traits each, breed them til you get the pal you want.

You will think you will be breeding enough to get a 4 star pal from the condenser, but no, you wont.

[Shirojacky]

The best way to get a pal with all 4 traits you want is if both parents have 2 traits each, and no more. Your best bet is to keep breeding for the parents of the pal you want, and then breed those until you get lucky. It can take a long time, so I suggest you have 2 breeding farms where 1 such 2+2 pair each gets busy. Aside that, you'll just have to wait.
What I think would be an excellent addition to the game is a new medicine that allows deleting a selected trait off a pal to help with this process.

[DirtyMick]

Yeah, it's just hard to do. You're trying to get the perfect passives in a game where passives are random. It's not supposed to be easy. It reminds me of ARPG games like d2 and grim dawn. Getting good rolls on items, farming thousands of runs... it's the grind man. You gotta love it xD

[★REM★]

It's all about RNG or at least, thats my conclusion after several attempts to get the traits i wanted.