Is it just me or are the players far too weak?

[The Dannister]

I had a rather heated argument with a friend earlier about the players weapons being unbelievably weak compared to basically any pal ability, also how the player simply can not take a hit at all. Something is seriously wrong when a lv 5 wild pal can down the player with 2-3 attacks even though the player is lv 17 while equal level wild pals literally 1hit kill you. Of course my own pals can tank hits like a champ, but not me.

I was expecting this to be a pokemon-like game where I get to fight alongside my pal, not just sit there and have the pal do all the fighting for me. I wanted to be an active participant in battles, not just be a spectator.... but the more I play, the more this seems to be just a pokemon game with real-time combat and base building where the player is not allowed to participate in battles beyond switching pals in and out and occasionally throwing balls at something to capture it without risking instant death.
....which then made me think: Why give me weapons/dodging at all if I am not allowed to use them to any reasonable effect?

Am I missing something or is this really how it is?

[Lucifer]

i mean with a team of gobfins + any mount that gives your character a elemental damage + rocket launcher, you can oneshot almost every boss in the game. (even on normal maybe hard settings) Also use the "what is good against the type" mechanic and learn to dodge attacks. Not really hard at all

[Pay Child Suport]

its way worse than that.

you know how much conversion it takes to create a rocket launcher ammo? all that for a measly 300-ish damage to astegon.

the bullets too. 1 damage, 150 gold.

definitely not worth it.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Publicado originalmente por Noeat:

Publicado originalmente por Zordiark Darkeater:

I grown up on wow and on MMOs on general. Not playing them anymore outside of FF14.

then what are you trying to say here, when you are complaining that only weapon doesnt do all dmg for you? :D
like cmon, what are you trying? :D

this is so ridiculous

Allready explained it. but say it again
"Proper" Builds should make you stronger not make you Viable at all.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer:

i mean with a team of gobfins + any mount that gives your character a elemental damage + rocket launcher, you can oneshot almost every boss in the game. (even on normal maybe hard settings) Also use the "what is good against the type" mechanic and learn to dodge attacks. Not really hard at all

Yeah thats where the issues is its the rocket Launcher that is only worth it at end game.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Publicado originalmente por Tentacle Grape:

its way worse than that.

you know how much conversion it takes to create a rocket launcher ammo? all that for a measly 300-ish damage to astegon.

the bullets too. 1 damage, 150 gold.

definitely not worth it.

Farming endgame costed me millions of gold lol
And nails... omg the ammount of nails i sold for the gold....

[Noeat]

Publicado originalmente por Tentacle Grape:

its way worse than that.

you know how much conversion it takes to create a rocket launcher ammo? all that for a measly 300-ish damage to astegon.

the bullets too. 1 damage, 150 gold.

definitely not worth it.

how much dmg did you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zZoaUhWgw

[Noeat]

Publicado originalmente por Zordiark Darkeater:

Publicado originalmente por Noeat:

then what are you trying to say here, when you are complaining that only weapon doesnt do all dmg for you? :D
like cmon, what are you trying? :D

this is so ridiculous

Allready explained it. but say it again
"Proper" Builds should make you stronger not make you Viable at all.

like this onetap?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zZoaUhWgw

dont get me wrong, but what about you LEARN TO PLAY and only after that you will make some claims? do you agree?

[EvilZombie]

the whole point of the game should be PLAYERS should be always weak and let pals fight each other players are there so support pals

[Gargoyle Girl]

You're not wrong, OP. I find it kind of hilarious that you learn to make an energy shield early on, but a lvl 5 pal can one shot it, or that (despite not really minding the style design or anything) you seem unable to craft a FULL SET OF ARMOR. What's with all this piecemeal sh!t I'm being forced to wear? Give me full body armor so I don't have some part of my body exposed to fire and ice and poison attacks at all times! Reinforced metal armor =/= chestplate and one shoulder guard! xD

This is compounded by the fact that, pal or no pal, if you're near to a fight with your pal, the enemy *will* stop paying them attention to attack you. Hiding? There's no hiding! Actively running far away? They've got ranged attacks and know how to lead their targets. Dodge rolling? I STILL get hit about 30% of the time, even while dodging.

Something else I would like to see are actual shields. Give me a tower shield that doubles as a glider o as a surfboard thing to ride along the water, or a buckler I can actively use to block attacks for a set amount of damage.

[Lucifer]

"farming endgame costs millions of gold" gold is probably one of the easier ressource to get, i completely buy my ammo and only craft rockets and even they are pretty easy to make.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Publicado originalmente por Noeat:

Publicado originalmente por Zordiark Darkeater:

Allready explained it. but say it again
"Proper" Builds should make you stronger not make you Viable at all.

like this onetap?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zZoaUhWgw

dont get me wrong, but what about you LEARN TO PLAY and only after that you will make some claims? do you agree?

You ignoring everything we are talking about. i did say rocket is the only weapon that worth it.

And post something that is not a rocket 3 taping legendaries.

[Gargoyle Girl]

Publicado originalmente por EvilZombie:

the whole point of the game should be PLAYERS should be always weak and let pals fight each other players are there so support pals

Are they? Is that the point, really? Explain to me one thing then. What kind of 'support' are you giving your pals? Swapping them out when they're about to die? ...because last time I checked that's all you can do besides 'being a distraction and getting attacked'.

You can't heal them, or buff them, or grant them special abilities. How are you supporting your pal during combat?

[Noeat]

Publicado originalmente por Gargoyle Girl:

Something else I would like to see are actual shields. .

use Lamball

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Publicado originalmente por Gargoyle Girl:

Publicado originalmente por EvilZombie:

the whole point of the game should be PLAYERS should be always weak and let pals fight each other players are there so support pals

Are they? Is that the point, really? Explain to me one thing then. What kind of 'support' are you giving your pals? Swapping them out when they're about to die? ...because last time I checked that's all you can do besides 'being a distraction and getting attacked'.

You can't heal them, or buff them, or grant them special abilities. How are you supporting your pal during combat?

This pretty much.

[shmodzilla]

Publicado originalmente por Xersin:

People in here saying that players are weak obviously have not invested into actual attack stats and builds. Every single level you put into Attack is a raw 2% increase in damage. This gets modified by accessories and the Vanguard skill, as well as things like the Gobfin Partner skills. This is then multiplied, NOT ADDED, to the weapon's damage. You can also add the elemental, or headshot damage buffs from riding/using an active Pal with those buffs.

If you feel "weak", it's because your build is not designed for player combat. Focus on buffing your damage with skills, accessories, and stats.

Yeah im not sure what theyre talking about at all. Either they screwed something up in settings or their doing it all wrong. Ours is on hard and other than a few battles i honestly thought the games too easy. My first big capture the other day was the Anibus boss and it took ten minutes but i never got a scratch on me or lost a pal. Hes level 4 and i was 35. This is my first game like this so at 51 years old and a first timer if i figured it out.....