If TPC/Gamefreak now make a Pokemon survival game, Palworld should definately sue.

[Rampant Razza]

They have had decades to make the pokemon game we really wanted, they didnt. Palworld made the exact Palworld we wanted and it was of course an unparalelled major success (who'd have thought it).

Now im guessing this has caught the attention of TPC/gamefreak/nintendo, and theyll probably try to 'innovate' pokemon and make a survival game, which will be an OBVIOUS COPY of Palworld, theyll be trying to ride on the coattails of success of Pocketpair Inc, the clearly superior dev that put their customers and fans wants/needs/satisfaction at the forefront of their projects.

If this happens, Pocketpal would have grounds to sue them into the next millenia.

[Kussin]

With rumors about Nintendo/Pokemon Company blackmailing Palworld, they should be quite for now and dont do or say anything because everything they do now as an answer to palworld, will backfire to them. Palworld (made by some indie devs with low budget) is everything pokemon could have and should have been. It showed HOW lazy gamefreak really is and no matter what they do now, if sueing or making a similar title - it will backfire.

Palworld is the first game in history that really threatens pokemons integrity. And thats a good thing looking and the lazyness of pokemon games that essentially didnt change for 25 years and are bugged af, despite having a budget higher than Marvel and Star Wars combined.

[✨ZV✨]

lol... idk

[Vyvyvn]

Originally posted by Ward:

With Nintendo/Pokemon Company blackmailing Palworld, they should be quite for now and dont do or say anything because everything they do now as an answer to palworld, will backfire to them. Palworld (made by some indie devs with low budget) is everything pokemon could have and should have been. It showed HOW lazy gamefreak really is and no matter what they do now, if sueing or making a similar title - it will backfire.

Palworld is the first game that really threatens pokemons integrity. And thats a good thing looking and the lazyness of pokemon games that essentially didnt change for 25 years and are bugged af, despite having a budget higher than Marvel and Star Wars combined.

Blackmail? Really???

Citation needed.

[Unlucky]

TBH, I think Palworld's "Survival" mechanics actually take a lot away from the game. Especially the mid to late-game grinding for ingots & tech points.

If they removed ALL of the "Survival" game mechanics, except for base-building, the game woulda been twice as good, IMO. It basically would have been a multiplayer, open-world version of Pokemon Legends: Arceus (but on PC obv), which is EXACTLY what many MILLIONS of Pokemon fans have been wanting and asking for a very, very long time.

Edit: Also your speculation on Nintendo is obviously nonsense... Palworld is like 90% a copy of Pokemon Legends: Arceus but with Survival elements forcefully wedged in as the other 10%.

[Kussin]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

TBH, I think Palworld's "Survival" mechanics actually take a lot away from the game. Especially the mid to late-game grinding for ingots & tech points.

If they removed ALL of the "Survival" game mechanics, except for base-building, the game woulda been twice as good, IMO. It basically would have been a multiplayer, open-world version of Pokemon Legends Arceus (on PC), which is EXACTLY what many MILLIONS of Pokemon fans have been wanting and asking for a very, very long time.

I really do like survival mechanics in games like this. Eating, shelter, clothing - i dont mind that.
However, i agree on the Ore-grind. Its tedious, boring and a potential ALT+f4 moment for me, everytime i gotta waste time once again to farm 500 ores.

[Kussin]

Originally posted by Vyvyvn:

Blackmail? Really???

Citation needed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1ah172f/palworld_is_being_indirectly_blackmailed_in_japan/


There is plenty other articles. Just google for it and you find plenty of it.

[Rampant Razza]

Originally posted by Ward:

Originally posted by Unlucky:

TBH, I think Palworld's "Survival" mechanics actually take a lot away from the game. Especially the mid to late-game grinding for ingots & tech points.

If they removed ALL of the "Survival" game mechanics, except for base-building, the game woulda been twice as good, IMO. It basically would have been a multiplayer, open-world version of Pokemon Legends Arceus (on PC), which is EXACTLY what many MILLIONS of Pokemon fans have been wanting and asking for a very, very long time.

I really do like survival mechanics in games like this. Eating, shelter, clothing - i dont mind that.
However, i agree on the Ore-grind. Its tedious, boring and a potential ALT+f4 moment for me, everytime i gotta waste time once again to farm 500 ores.

the ore grind can be a bit heavy i agree, even with a dedicated second base setup. for me, its not so much the ore itself, but its the sphere crafting eating up all my refined/pal metal then needing 20+ spheres to catch something with a 70% capture rate xD.

im sure thatll be ironed out though, it is early access after all.

[Samantha]

Technically Palworld pays homage to the grandfathers of technology, cartoons and combines it with modernism. Who here remembers the Looney Toons? The original version I mean?

Why am I asking this? because anyone who's watched the original Looney Toons, anyone born in the last 80 years will have a glimpse of nostalgia at 'knocked out/dead pals' rolling around and bouncing off of things. It breaths new life into all things that once upon a time the world fell in love with and shared with family/friends a like. Palworld isn't a copycat... it's a respectful, feel good, have a good laugh kind of game to an era long gone and may never be seen again. Palworld see's to it that those things have new life in a modern world. One I think we all need, because we've all forgotten how to enjoy life, enjoy having fun. Atleast... that's what i've come to realize. Palworld pays respect to all the things that made the world stop... dream... enjoy life and laugh. Before we started bubble wrapping kids when they scraped their knees, before we told them it was to dangerous to get back on a bike after scraping their knees, this game takes us back to that and more. This game... its a way to bridge a gap and bring families back together. It succeeds where pokemon has steadily begun to fail because pokemon lost sight of what it meant to have fun... and enjoy simply playing games, Playworld in NO way, what so ever is a copycat to Pokemon. Heck if Pokemon was smart, they should be happy that a game developer/owner took inspiration from them and combined it with other mediums to breath new life into a dying genre. Thats how culture works, that's how evolution works. If they want to hold onto that ethos they'll lose any and all respect they had from the world.

How many of you now truly enjoy playing games still? How many people now, in this comment section, reading and responding to these comments can sit there and say, they still play games with the eyes and energy of exploring, for the thrill of the adventure and a need to explore a game? How many people now, copy each other, follow guides and ignore what it means to just... have fun with a game? and/or stab each other in the back for cheap thrills? I've seen Pokemon, Looney Toons and many other mediums steadily die, be revived and then nearly die again. It's time to evolve the grandfathers of a gone era and let the new generations pave a path.

[Unlucky]

Originally posted by Rampant Razza:

the ore grind can be a bit heavy i agree, even with a dedicated second base setup. for me, its not so much the ore itself, but its the sphere crafting eating up all my refined/pal metal then needing 20+ spheres to catch something with a 70% capture rate xD.

im sure thatll be ironed out though, it is early access after all.

The real problem I have with the Survival genre is that it REQUIRES grinding... It is a fundamental part of what makes up the genre.

So while I'm sure they WILL work on the fact the game heavily drops off mid-to-late game due to the ore grinding... The fact is all they can essentially ever do is REDUCE the grind, they cannot eliminate it (without removing Survival-game elements). So they cannot actually fix what I personally see as 'the problem', the grind itself.

So I personally wouldn't ever want Nintendo/Pokemon to "copy" Palworld by making their own Survival game. Pokemon Legends: Arceus was a much better game, IMO. If they made another game just like Arceus, but with base-building and no loading-screens, then it would pretty much be like Palworld minus all of the 'Survival' grind. Which is exactly the sort of game that -I- want.

Edit: Also, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that if anyone here loves Palworld that they try Pokemon Legends: Arceus. The game was really awesome and you can see that Palworld was clearly 'inspired' by it, as like 90% of this game is practically the same. lol

[Wolfguarde]

Originally posted by Rampant Razza:

If TPC/Gamefreak now make a Pokemon survival game, Palworld should definately sue.

Nah. This is, in my eyes, as stupid an idea as gamefreak trying to sue Pocketpair for Palworld existing. There's no grounds for litigation either way.

If pokemon gets an open world survival game with dynamic combat mechanics as a result of Palworld existing, I personally consider that a win. They've had twenty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years to at minimum get started on one, and they've turned their nose up at that market the whole time. Despite knowing there's demand for it, and that an additional dimension of virtually free revenue exists once they decide to tap it.

But what I would rather see is the pokemon IP get expanded into its own digital universe. A pokemon MMO would be good. A whole pokemon world within the internet would be even better. And that's not coming for a while, until the tech is sufficiently repackaged to overcome its primary hurdles to adoption, and the necessary infrastructure finishes building and getting pushed through the regulatory red tape that's holding it back.

Either way, I doubt Palworld will result in lawsuits. Its existence will, in the best case, spur the development of some of the best games that will come of the next couple of decades. The door gamefreak/nintendo kept carefully closed and locked has been blown open; it's now only a matter of time before indie devs come marching through to take their share of the pie that gamefreak's so generously left on the table.

[Casual Amateur]

Hmm.... Pokemon survival..... Make me think of pokemon legends arceus.

[Flieb]

Originally posted by Unlucky:

Originally posted by Rampant Razza:

the ore grind can be a bit heavy i agree, even with a dedicated second base setup. for me, its not so much the ore itself, but its the sphere crafting eating up all my refined/pal metal then needing 20+ spheres to catch something with a 70% capture rate xD.

im sure thatll be ironed out though, it is early access after all.

The real problem I have with the Survival genre is that it REQUIRES grinding... It is a fundamental part of what makes up the genre.

So while I'm sure they WILL work on the fact the game heavily drops off mid-to-late game due to the ore grinding... The fact is all they can essentially ever do is REDUCE the grind, they cannot eliminate it (without removing Survival-game elements). So they cannot actually fix what I personally see as 'the problem', the grind itself.

So I personally wouldn't ever want Nintendo/Pokemon to "copy" Palworld by making their own Survival game. Pokemon Legends: Arceus was a much better game, IMO. If they made another game just like Arceus, but with base-building and no loading-screens, then it would pretty much be like Palworld minus all of the 'Survival' grind. Which is exactly the sort of game that -I- want.

Edit: Also, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that if anyone here loves Palworld that they try Pokemon Legends: Arceus. The game was really awesome and you can see that Palworld was clearly 'inspired' by it, as like 90% of this game is practically the same. lol

i have played pokemon legend arceus and i have very much enjoyed it and completed it twice HOWEVER it is not the game ppl were hoping for its still not really "open world" when every biome has a loading screen and u needing to go back to town to go the a different biome not to mention various bugs and pretty bad graphics (specially on distance) still no real trainer to pokemon interactions and very limited mount mechanic for this i say palworld simply did better and due to nintendo sticking only to their own consoles they will never be able to release a well polished good looking open world game cause their consoles simply cannot handle it (or well could but gamefreak is doing something wrong since botw did fine...)

[Capybarasan]

All games take from other games, there is no originality. It's called competition and if Pokemon does it better than Palworld then so be it. Palworld should make theirs even better and that's how we get great games.

[Sákuyá]

they are not going to get sued and cannot get sued

[Rampant Razza]

Originally posted by Capybarasan:

All games take from other games, there is no originality. It's called competition and if Pokemon does it better than Palworld then so be it. Palworld should make theirs even better and that's how we get great games.

absolutely, this would be the ideal situation for gamers and company alike! constant one ups, constant innovation leading to constant hype and constant sales