Hangyu best glider/flyer solution?

[magickmynd]

Holy crap man, the description in the pal dex doesn't do this pal justice. Not only does it act as a glider, you actually GAIN height when you use it and it stays on a fairly flat trajectory for a long time, and to gain more height all you have to do is let it go and then grab it again.

My personal world has stamina requirements turned down to the lowest setting because it's annoying and with a grappling hook to give me speed I can literally "fly" a hangyu between islands faster than any of the lower to mid level flyers, not to mention most ground mounts.

And if you want to go down? Just slow down your speed and kind of circle in place and it will slowly drop you towards the ground.

Teleport to any high point you want or just a fairly flat surface with a grappling hook and you can speed your way anywhere.

It got the point where I am seriously considering replacing any fliers I have until I get something like jetragon later on in the game.

*edit* For those who don't understand what my post is saying, I'm saying that Hangyu is the best glider/flyer for exploration and island traversal from early game all the way to late game UNTIL you get Jetragon. Until then, even if you get a good flyer with the swift bonus, Hangyu with a grappler is still faster.

[Xantanash]

I think with default settings Galeclaw is better in the end.
BUT with the OP settings where stamina is turned down, I can see the appeal of using Hangyu.
Personally, Hangyu took too much stamina for the distance it gave me.

[magickmynd]

Originally posted by Xantanash:

I think with default settings Galeclaw is better in the end.
BUT with the OP settings where stamina is turned down, I can see the appeal of using Hangyu.
Personally, Hangyu took too much stamina for the distance it gave me.

If you are using default settings have you tried getting the star level up? I think that for higher partner skill levels they use less stamina when gliding/flying/running for movement type abilities.

Also, even with normal stamina settings Hangyu should still give you plenty of distance if you are using a grapple speed boost.

[Barrogueknight]

........if I want to gain height, faster AND higher, I'll just use a flying mount. or a grappling gun. u can get a nitewing or vanwyrm way earlier/easier than a hangyu. hangyu's partner skill is awfully redundant. could even kill you with that height gain if u are not careful. you want to glide, and to glide means to cover horizontal distance while staying airborne, not necessarily vertical.

galeclaw is way better with no competition. way better practicality especially in combat. the way you can evade, get in/out of combat or other happenings quickly while still having your other pals out, while still having the ability to shoot?? honestly i dont see the competition lol

"have you tried raising the star up" no way i am catching/breeding 116 hangyus just for that lol. id rather do it on galeclaw, or better yet a flying mount with addtl effects

[Beardwithlegs]

I'll just sit with my Killamari and smile. Sure its no Galeclaw, but it gets the job done.

[Theofratus]

Does your hangyu have any speed modifiers? Whenever I used it, it only rose upward. I've personally had better jet bursts with galeclaw, but I can see how hangyu would be beneficial.

Maybe I'm just unlucky since every time I try hangyu, I'm practically hovering rather than yeeting myself. Either way, pals as gliders is one of the main reasons I raise stamina. I usually even pass on mounts because of it.

[Wille84FIN]

Yeah, Galeclaw is best glider imo. I got a boss one with two fast traits at level ~20, and i've been using it ever since. I'm now lvl.48. With mounts, i've had the worst luck possible, only one with runner trait so far.

Edit: correction, it wasn't a shiny one. It was a boss.

[magickmynd]

Originally posted by リハビリ中社会人:

........if I want to gain height, faster AND higher, I'll just use a flying mount. or a grappling gun. u can get a nitewing or vanwyrm way earlier/easier than a hangyu. hangyu's partner skill is awfully redundant. could even kill you with that height gain if u are not careful. you want to glide, and to glide means to cover horizontal distance while staying airborne, not necessarily vertical.

galeclaw is way better with no competition. way better practicality especially in combat. the way you can evade, get in/out of combat or other happenings quickly while still having your other pals out, while still having the ability to shoot?? honestly i dont see the competition lol

"have you tried raising the star up" no way i am catching/breeding 116 hangyus just for that lol. id rather do it on galeclaw, or better yet a flying mount with addtl effects

I'm not talking about just gaining height. Yes, if I want to just go straight up faster than Hangyu can, then I would go with a flying mount or a grappling gun. Hangyu only gains height in short bursts and a flying mount does that better.

I'm talking about trajectory over time and speed of travel over long distances. If you get a grapple boost and glide with Hangyu you can go long distances, gain a bit of height, and then have a fairly flat arc towards your destination.

I have gone from island to island WAY faster with a Hangyu than I have with a flying mount other than Jetragon and, yes, Galeclaw can be used in combat in short bursts, but when it comes to traversal? Doesn't even come close to Hangyu for distance covered.

And I can use Hangyu in combat as well. All it takes is a grapple gun speed boost and then a Hangyu glide and I can glide in circles faster than anything except Jetragon.

Sure, I can't fire a weapon from Hangyu, but that's hardly needed when all I need to do is to dodge attacks with Hangyu's gliding speed while my Pal in combat does all the damage.

Enemies will usually get stuck trying to target the player character while I'm dodging everything and the Pal gets plenty of free hits in.

And the best part is that Hangyu maintains whatever momentum it had at the start, so even if you let go and then grab it again, you keep that momentum and can gain height again once you start to descend.

Literally the only benefit that Galelclaw has over it is that you can fire a weapon from it, but that doesn't help much if you don't have a high point to jump off from to begin with since it loses altitude really fast, so if you are just dodging around on a flat surface with Galeclaw then you don't really have time to fire anything.

[GrandTickler]

yeah i saw this video recommended to me last night lol, its pretty crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnNWjPOkRw

edit: the only thing faster ive seen is a fenglope lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWGd41b7abE

[magickmynd]

Originally posted by Theofratus:

Does your hangyu have any speed modifiers? Whenever I used it, it only rose upward. I've personally had better jet bursts with galeclaw, but I can see how hangyu would be beneficial.

Maybe I'm just unlucky since every time I try hangyu, I'm practically hovering rather than yeeting myself. Either way, pals as gliders is one of the main reasons I raise stamina. I usually even pass on mounts because of it.

My Hangyu does have a runner passive, but the way you are using it sounds like just walking or running and trying to glide with it, which yes, it will be slow then and really only gain a bit of vertical distance.

What you need to do is find either a flat or slightly down sloping surface and use a grapple gun to gain speed, then let go of the grapple and glide with Hangyu.

Hangyu will maintain the speed you had when you started the glide and gain some height, and then travel for a loooooonnng way before finally starting to lose height.

If you want to stay in the air longer and gain more height then just very quickly let go and then glide again and it will refresh the height boost.

Gotta do the yeet with the grapple otherwise the fastest you will move is your running speed.

[magickmynd]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

yeah i saw this video recommended to me last night lol, its pretty crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnNWjPOkRw

Yes!!! This! This is what I'm talking about.

I don't need to do the stopping and starting every few seconds for the stamina because of my server settings, but the speed!

That's what I'm trying to say.

Galeclaw can't do this because it loses altitude too much even though it's fast, you would hit the water if you didn't start up from a high enough height. But Hangyu can do it no problem even if you start at the same level as the water.

[angelsenvy228]

Originally posted by magickmynd:

Originally posted by Xaro:

You guys know that flying mounts exist right?

Yes and most of them are trash as far as travel speed. You don't get any good speedy fliers until mid to late game and you have to hunt one down that has swift to have any decent chance of going far quickly.

Until you get the fastest mount in the game, Jetragon, then gliders are actually faster to get around with than flying mounts, even with regular gliders and not pal gliders.

Pretty sure that is only because you have turned stamina consumption down to the minimum, and you are basing your experience like that is what most other people are going to be doing and you have discovered something incredible. Ok, if you screw with the stamina settings and also abuse the grappling hook you can force hangyu to perform better than most flying mounts for traversal. But the number of people playing like that will be vanishingly low.

I feel like this is on the level of a post in another forum I saw where someone was arguing the most optimal way to play was with a mouse in their right hand and a weird joystick for movement in their left hand and that everyone should do it.

IMO the correct glider is the equipment glider that does not waste a pal slot.

[RazakelKairo]

I tested Hangyu now, on hard-difficulty (so standard stamina), because I was interested due to this post.
Game is new. At face value a lot of things seem "better" or "worse" than the other, but often times in games there's a lot of misconception as well or just things that are unexplored.
People say that the Attack-stat is bad for instance, or that Alpha-Pal size is a weakness, and I've found instances where both of these things can be advantagous.

Hangyu and Galeclaw both have use-cases that seperate them. They're both good. It just depends on what you're looking for.
But I really like Hangyu now for sure!

[Pawpaws]

Must admit I bred and four-stared the manta ray, might not be the best but it looks so happy :3

[Chiqui]

Are we sure about the passives? Most video's I watch specifically state Swift, Runner, and Nimble DO NOT work on gliders only mounts.

[magickmynd]

Originally posted by Chiqui:

Are we sure about the passives? Most video's I watch specifically state Swift, Runner, and Nimble DO NOT work on gliders only mounts.

Not 100% sure. I'm not the kind to go into SUPER detail about how many it milliseconds it takes to travel a certain distance tested over and over again at different star levels, different passives, etc.

Someone said it effects it, but whether or not it only effects the speed at which they gain height, or their horizontal speed, no idea.

But, it hardly matters when a Hangyu with zero passives can still travel faster with a grapple speed boost than any flyer other than Jetragon, and even then only barely less.