Hangyu best glider/flyer solution?

[magickmynd]

Holy crap man, the description in the pal dex doesn't do this pal justice. Not only does it act as a glider, you actually GAIN height when you use it and it stays on a fairly flat trajectory for a long time, and to gain more height all you have to do is let it go and then grab it again.

My personal world has stamina requirements turned down to the lowest setting because it's annoying and with a grappling hook to give me speed I can literally "fly" a hangyu between islands faster than any of the lower to mid level flyers, not to mention most ground mounts.

And if you want to go down? Just slow down your speed and kind of circle in place and it will slowly drop you towards the ground.

Teleport to any high point you want or just a fairly flat surface with a grappling hook and you can speed your way anywhere.

It got the point where I am seriously considering replacing any fliers I have until I get something like jetragon later on in the game.

*edit* For those who don't understand what my post is saying, I'm saying that Hangyu is the best glider/flyer for exploration and island traversal from early game all the way to late game UNTIL you get Jetragon. Until then, even if you get a good flyer with the swift bonus, Hangyu with a grappler is still faster.

[magickmynd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syad:

Galeclaw >>> Hangyu

Hangyu is good if you can gain speed somehow.. which is a setup. Galeclaw is a complete solution right out of the box.

case in point

Oprindeligt skrevet af magickmynd:

and with a grappling hook to give me speed I can

Yes but Galeclaw cannot gain height easily or take you for as long a distance as Hangyu can.

I tried it with flat terrain, no grapple hook, no setup.

Just take a running start and jump. Galeclaw will take you a few feet quickly, but hangyu will take you a looooooooooonnng way away even from flat ground and will maintain whatever momentum you had when you started even if you let go and then grab it again.

So you can say that Galeclaw requires a setup as well because you either need to start from a high height to start with or use a grapple to pull yourself up and then glide.

Between the two I'd say Hangyu requires less setup than Galeclaw does :)

[Syad]

Guys, the thing that makes Galeclaw broken is you can use him in combat to dodge all attacks.

Speed:
Jetragon 3300
Galeclaw(maxed) 1700
Hangyu(maxed) 100

You can be a jetragon in combat, instantly.

[Syad]

Oprindeligt skrevet af magickmynd:

Yes but Galeclaw cannot gain height easily or take you for as long a distance as Hangyu can.

I mean, realistically unless we want to glide through the whole world the difference is rather negligible, especially with upgrades as they both get gliding distance increase from it. But ye, for strictly travel, i do agree Hangyu is good.

[magickmynd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syad:

Guys, the thing that makes Galeclaw broken is you can use him in combat to dodge all attacks.

Speed:
Jetragon 3300
Galeclaw(maxed) 1700
Hangyu(maxed) 100

You can be a jetragon in combat, instantly.

how would that work? Because a lot of Jetragons attacks are really fast to both cast and arrive at your destination, and beyond using a grapple gun doesn't Galeclaw take a while to get up to its max speed whereas Jetragon can go from zero to full speed instantly?

So unless you are somehow using your grapple gun to dodge I don't see Galeclaw making you any faster at getting out of the way, especially since most fights happen on flat surfaces and most attacks are so fast that you can barely even normal dodge out of the way let alone have the time to pull out a glider.

Are you saying to get Galeclaw started on its glide and then just kind of circling around and firing guns from it? Could work, but you would be losing altitude the whole time.

Not to mention the fact that Hangyu's speed doesn't matter because it maintains whatever momentum you had at the time you start gliding, so its base speed says nothing about its ability as a glider.

[Syad]

Oprindeligt skrevet af magickmynd:

Are you saying to get Galeclaw started on its glide and then just kind of circling around and firing guns from it? Could work, but you would be losing altitude the whole time.

Yes, it works, try to just to move around in the base, jump&go, you will never use dodge again. 😁 Hangyu upwards motion is even kind of a negative because he is moving in the wrong direction, unless climbing was the goal, but if that's the case, as others said, a real flyer would be better.

[magickmynd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syad:

Oprindeligt skrevet af magickmynd:

Are you saying to get Galeclaw started on its glide and then just kind of circling around and firing guns from it? Could work, but you would be losing altitude the whole time.

Yes, it works, try to just to move around in the base, jump&go, you will never use dodge again. 😁 Hangyu upwards motion is even kind of a negative because he is moving in the wrong direction, unless climbing was the goal, but if that's the case, as others said, a real flyer would be better.

I've tried just jumping off from a flat surface with Galeclaw and never got very far. Usually just the normal dodge is enough or if I really wanted to be speedy I would just jump on the back of my Direhowl with it's swift bonus and just fire from its back while running around.

[АlphaWhelp]

Hangyu's long distance / verticality becomes completely irrelevant once you capture Jetragon. Galeclaw is always relevant.

[J[Y]anin]

I feel like altering the stamina loss is a big part of making any gliders/flyers infinitely better :p

[IchigoMait]

Oprindeligt skrevet af magickmynd:

Holy crap man, the description in the pal dex doesn't do this pal justice. Not only does it act as a glider, you actually GAIN height when you use it and it stays on a fairly flat trajectory for a long time, and to gain more height all you have to do is let it go and then grab it again.

My personal world has stamina requirements turned down to the lowest setting because it's annoying and with a grappling hook to give me speed I can literally "fly" a hangyu between islands faster than any of the lower to mid level flyers, not to mention most ground mounts.

And if you want to go down? Just slow down your speed and kind of circle in place and it will slowly drop you towards the ground.

Teleport to any high point you want or just a fairly flat surface with a grappling hook and you can speed your way anywhere.

It got the point where I am seriously considering replacing any fliers I have until I get something like jetragon later on in the game.

It literally tells you that it goes higher in its partner skill description.

[The Former]

They both have their benefits and are good for different situations. Personally, I just have a lot of fun gliding with a Galeclaw.

[ignis]

Hangyu just makes no sense to use. Sure, it gives you vertical boost, but there are flying mounts for that. Galeclaw horizontal speed is extremely powerful, and you can use it on flat land for fast leaps in combat.

[magickmynd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ignis:

Hangyu just makes no sense to use. Sure, it gives you vertical boost, but there are flying mounts for that. Galeclaw horizontal speed is extremely powerful, and you can use it on flat land for fast leaps in combat.

It's not just about the vertical boost. It's about the speed. Pretty much every flying mount other than Jetragon is slower than Hangyu with a grapple boost during pretty much the entire game.

I'm talking map traversal speed, not just short term dodging speed boosts or going up a cliff. I've restarted the maps several times and Hangyu is hands down the fastest and most accessible way to get to and through the various islands than any other flying mount other than Jetragon, who you don't get until end game.

I'm saying that Hangyu is the best gliding/flying solution for exploration and traversal until you can get Jetragon extremely later on.

[Kriya Takagi]

best glider in the game: T-pose for dominance

[AirSniffer]

You guys know that flying mounts exist right?

[magickmynd]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Xaro:

You guys know that flying mounts exist right?

Yes and most of them are trash as far as travel speed. You don't get any good speedy fliers until mid to late game and you have to hunt one down that has swift to have any decent chance of going far quickly.

Until you get the fastest mount in the game, Jetragon, then gliders are actually faster to get around with than flying mounts, even with regular gliders and not pal gliders.