Palworld Overheating PCs?

[Mori]

Something isn't right.

This is just anecdotal, but Palworld is the only game that is causing my PC to overheat in a worrisome way.

I don't even mean GPU/CPU, that can be considered "normal" in many cases. Playing Palworld, every time, causes my front USB Panel slots to cease working because they get too hot. After closing the game and turning off my PC for a bit, the front USB slots start working again.

They get hot enough to disable the ports entirely, I could probably fry an egg on it somehow. This isn't happening with any other of my games.

I'm not sure why Palworld specifically would cause this to occur, let alone specifically to the front-side USB bank. The game still runs as usual, I'm not getting any hitching or weird behavior from the game itself, or the PC itself. But it certainly gets hot enough to be a furnace in the room.

Anyone else noticing any strangeness in this same manner?

[rage]

Publicado originalmente por Dyna:

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

Then what you should do is take a can of air and do a thourough cleaning, shut the PC off first, then take the air can and only hold it upright and do a very thourough cleaning, if you have not cleaned it in a while it will be very dusty everywhere so you might want a mask, dont use a duster or vacuum on anything just blow it all away.

See if that helps, if not then if your pc is in a enclosed area with low air flow in the room try move the PC to an area that has more air flow in the room.

After you are done do not turn the PC on right away as sometimes some condensate can get onto parts of the PC from the air can, I like to wait an hour before tuning it on if I do a heavy cleaning

A light cleaning I pay attention to the air and surfaces I clean to make sure there is no condensate.

Check to see all your fans are spinning and if you can, my gpu is a gtx 1080 and im down to one fan on it out of 3 and can run it max load and it stays cool still.

Now just make sure that your CPU is not creating too much heat and if it is you will need to redo the thermal paste.

Make sure your Case is large and not cramped, if all your components are really crammed together that heat can build up really fast and easy.

My case is really large and it helps keep parts from heating eachother up.

IF it is a Voltage problem with your USB or some electrical problem with your USB port due to a bad connection or old and wearing out or something I would suggest you get the USB ports replaced and in the mean time try changing what ports you are using for your mouse / keyboard or whatever your using and see if it helps.

Buy an Airduster those cans cause pollution and have to be refilled or replaced. I am never going to use that on my hardware.

The amount you use is less than your body produces via exhaling.

[Mori]

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

IF it is a Voltage problem with your USB or some electrical problem with your USB port due to a bad connection or old and wearing out or something I would suggest you get the USB ports replaced and in the mean time try changing what ports you are using for your mouse / keyboard or whatever your using and see if it helps.

I'm considering a new PC case. I've had this one for quite a long time (in terms of tech anyway - roughly 7 years). It's spacious enough. The only problem I ever have with the space is just how big video cards have gotten, and getting around them can be a pain.

The only reason I ask this question and/or have concern about it, is that this is the only program that this issue is popping up with. I'm keeping a closer eye on it now obviously.

[Ninefinger]

Publicado originalmente por Dyna:

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

Then what you should do is take a can of air and do a thourough cleaning, shut the PC off first, then take the air can and only hold it upright and do a very thourough cleaning, if you have not cleaned it in a while it will be very dusty everywhere so you might want a mask, dont use a duster or vacuum on anything just blow it all away.

See if that helps, if not then if your pc is in a enclosed area with low air flow in the room try move the PC to an area that has more air flow in the room.

After you are done do not turn the PC on right away as sometimes some condensate can get onto parts of the PC from the air can, I like to wait an hour before tuning it on if I do a heavy cleaning

A light cleaning I pay attention to the air and surfaces I clean to make sure there is no condensate.

Check to see all your fans are spinning and if you can, my gpu is a gtx 1080 and im down to one fan on it out of 3 and can run it max load and it stays cool still.

Now just make sure that your CPU is not creating too much heat and if it is you will need to redo the thermal paste.

Make sure your Case is large and not cramped, if all your components are really crammed together that heat can build up really fast and easy.

My case is really large and it helps keep parts from heating eachother up.

IF it is a Voltage problem with your USB or some electrical problem with your USB port due to a bad connection or old and wearing out or something I would suggest you get the USB ports replaced and in the mean time try changing what ports you are using for your mouse / keyboard or whatever your using and see if it helps.

Buy an Airduster those cans cause pollution and have to be refilled or replaced. I am never going to use that on my hardware.

This is great idea, didnt know they existed I only clean this PC twice in 10 years and have gone years without cleaning cause lazy lol not even one can used so not like im thinking of better ways to do it but will probably get one now.

[GroovyHobo]

Publicado originalmente por Ginja:

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

IF it is a Voltage problem with your USB or some electrical problem with your USB port due to a bad connection or old and wearing out or something I would suggest you get the USB ports replaced and in the mean time try changing what ports you are using for your mouse / keyboard or whatever your using and see if it helps.

I'm considering a new PC case. I've had this one for quite a long time (in terms of tech anyway - roughly 7 years). It's spacious enough. The only problem I ever have with the space is just how big video cards have gotten, and getting around them can be a pain.

The only reason I ask this question and/or have concern about it, is that this is the only program that this issue is popping up with. I'm keeping a closer eye on it now obviously.

A new PC case will most likely do it. I would've recommended it earlier but I usually don't like telling people to spend money.

Cases are a lot bigger these days. Look for airflow cases as they usually optimize for size as well. Phantek airflow cases have been great for me these days.

[Dyna]

Publicado originalmente por Ginja:

Something isn't right.

This is just anecdotal, but Palworld is the only game that is causing my PC to overheat in a worrisome way.

I don't even mean GPU/CPU, that can be considered "normal" in many cases. Playing Palworld, every time, causes my front USB Panel slots to cease working because they get too hot. After closing the game and turning off my PC for a bit, the front USB slots start working again.

They get hot enough to disable the ports entirely, I could probably fry an egg on it somehow. This isn't happening with any other of my games.

I'm not sure why Palworld specifically would cause this to occur, let alone specifically to the front-side USB bank. The game still runs as usual, I'm not getting any hitching or weird behavior from the game itself, or the PC itself. But it certainly gets hot enough to be a furnace in the room.

Anyone else noticing any strangeness in this same manner?

Post system and clean it/check cables.

AM5 BIOS EXAMPLE


TitleVersionRelease DateFile Size
Download
AMI BIOS7D70v1C2023-11-2911.45 MB

Description:
- Update PT21 FW 231011_A0_01_82 to improve USB3.0 compatibility.


Now this is an example of a bios my system can make use of that fixes some issues.

This cannot be installed on your system unless you have same hardware. once you are done cleaning check what changes the Updated BIOS for your system offers and install it if needed.

Update the CHIPSET driver also and if nothing works stop playing Palworld and figure out what is going on before you cause a fire.

And are you out of PCI-E lanes?

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

I mean i'd still eer on playing it safe if it's not a gpu you don't mind replacing. 7+ years might be a while. 8+ years is when my 8 year old computer, the Nvidia 750/760(?) laptop died.

I ignored heat, played overwatch 2. The fan screamed like a dying puppy in a laptop without much airflow. I ignored it. Then the fan gave out, screen corrupted, and it burnt out the gears and never worked again.

ON the flip side, by the time it had happened, the replacement gpu i have now, the 3060ti, is like literally something like 752%-1213% the speed of the 760. So like, tech moves on with time.

It could be a possibility that if you are using a older gpu that your old gpu might be failing. While mine is fine pushing and i think temps of up to 70 C are usually safe, stuff like ventilation, card age, and heat distribution / cooling can be important.

It might also be a potential thing to check if it's gpu overheating or cpu overheating, or your entire rig heating up. It's not uncommon for a gpu with half the power of a 1000W oven to have heat problems if you box it up like a oven!

Play it safe with a card, you don't game but keep your pc. Over cook a screaming card. You might literally burn out a fan. Overclock, squeeze out life for a +5-10% or kill the card quicker.

I'd try and run alt Z and see what component is causing stress. Palworld seems more gpu using, but is the cpu failing? is the cpu or gpu heating?

Can you manage heat by lowering settings/capping fps, maybe from 70-144s to 30 fps, low, etc? or manage heat?

Does alt + z underclocking power help, or stutter the game, etc?

[MrSoul]

Sounds like your PSU is starting to go to me.

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

As far as pc cases go, im not the most up to date. But i know i got a all metal, 2-4 fan, 3 air vent metal case that rarely heats past 45-55 C of 70 C. Even ran overclocked, but usually ran underclocked for heat concerns.

(Don't care about the 20$ electricity a year, but desert climate and 70F to 80 F room heating is miserable. Also run it for 8-24 hrs for ai/coding sometimes, so more peace of mind / less fan noise)

I think i got a solid metal case for like 44$ off newegg, the 2-4 fan, 3 air vents. And i notice it genuinely cools a lot better for my 220W gpu than my brother's plastic case with a 1650 100 W gpu.

Mine has the metal to breath through and is left under a table, and breaths quietly, the triple fans hardly need to turn on and work silently on 49W/220 W 75FPS high/ultra palworld settings.

His machine screams like a wailing banshee in a wooden drawer in a plastic drawer waiting to die and overheats on 100/100 Watts.

He overheats 100W/100W on 50 fps medium, i stay cool at 49/220W on 75 fps high/ultra.

It's not uncommon for newer generation gpus to both be much more powerful and/or energy efficient. Though i still kinda wonder if the 4060/4000 series are truly more energy efficient, or just factory overclocked.

Because the 20% underclock matches 90% of power efficency, but the overclock on both have both gpus within 10% of each other. It just seems like the 4000 series might just be set to a factory underclock to make them 1.5x more energy efficient but only 10% more powerful chips.

Which is still something, but if you're looking into heat, the 4060/ti is a 299-399$ gpu that runs cool on factory settings and can have 1-3 fan options.

If your gpu catches on fire and you just want something for palworld, it might be a option or looking at https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/

The site has a hate fetish for amd which tend to have good vram. So keep that in mind if you want like say 12-16 gb vram cards, those won't show up but amd often has fair prices on that. (though you're locked out of ai /dlss 4.0, if games even have it.). But amd has it's own version as well.

[Ninefinger]

Publicado originalmente por Ginja:

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

IF it is a Voltage problem with your USB or some electrical problem with your USB port due to a bad connection or old and wearing out or something I would suggest you get the USB ports replaced and in the mean time try changing what ports you are using for your mouse / keyboard or whatever your using and see if it helps.

I'm considering a new PC case. I've had this one for quite a long time (in terms of tech anyway - roughly 7 years). It's spacious enough. The only problem I ever have with the space is just how big video cards have gotten, and getting around them can be a pain.

The only reason I ask this question and/or have concern about it, is that this is the only program that this issue is popping up with. I'm keeping a closer eye on it now obviously.

Go big or go home with the PC case for sure, I would also recommend that with your hardware and any new hardware coming out you should have a 1000w power supply at minimum, I have a 850w and still on GTX 1080 and 6850K but if I move to a 40xx card I am getting a 1500w.

[Dyna]

Publicado originalmente por rage:

Publicado originalmente por Dyna:

Buy an Airduster those cans cause pollution and have to be refilled or replaced. I am never going to use that on my hardware.

The amount you use is less than your body produces via exhaling.

I can use the Airduster every day the rest of my life if i want. I will never have to worry about making a liitle oopsie and cause condensation on any hardware.

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

The 4060s are actually lower power usage like i think the base 4060 is 120-160W or something to a 220 W 3060. But i think a lot of performance seems 90% similar underclocked.

Though it definitely does seem the 4000 generation does still seem at LEAST 10-20% more overclocked/power efficient, vs the +60% base.

Still though yeah, a good steel case feels nice and breathes really well compared to plastic. I got a 44$ metal case since it was cheaper than a 54$ plastic, but it surprisingly breaths very well.

I've known even a couple ai runners to take the acrylic panel off for ai/bitcoin mining. But one spill and bye bye entire pc.

[GroovyHobo]

Publicado originalmente por Ninefinger:

Publicado originalmente por Ginja:

I'm considering a new PC case. I've had this one for quite a long time (in terms of tech anyway - roughly 7 years). It's spacious enough. The only problem I ever have with the space is just how big video cards have gotten, and getting around them can be a pain.

The only reason I ask this question and/or have concern about it, is that this is the only program that this issue is popping up with. I'm keeping a closer eye on it now obviously.

Go big or go home with the PC case for sure, I would also recommend that with your hardware and any new hardware coming out you should have a 1000w power supply at minimum, I have a 850w and still on GTX 1080 and 6850K but if I move to a 40xx card I am getting a 1500w.

1500w is crazy overkill. Even 1000w is overkill(agree with recommending them though).

[xSOSxHawkens]

Dude be overclocking his USB ports.

[Ruke (Soreasan)]

Oh and random, but if anyone is thinking of those 400-700$+ 4070s or so. Gpu leaks say there might be a +20-30% performance/vram upgrade.

Like either 12/12 gb vram but +20-30% more performance on a 4070 super later this year. But that's still a 700-800$ gpu or something stupid.

As far as gpu frames per dollar. The nvidia 4060ti is maybe at a sale rn for 344$ of 400$. so i wouldn't go lower as 8 gb vram already pushes it unless you want something budget. Apparently 6 gb 1060s are 100$ rn, and the amd 580s were like 50-100$ earlier this year but might be mining gpus (potential heat problems.)

But if you have 700-800$, those rich cat gpus might be getting a refresh.

Whatever gpu you buy though, the newer generations should be +20-30% stronger every 2 year generation though. That's how my 8 year old gpu ended up like absurdly 7-12x slower though.

I still feel comfy for palworld, even a 3060ti i'm playing on high/ultra with 25-50% usage. But i might be stressed for ps5 games on max and the 8 gb vram runs out on a hogwarts legacy.

Nvidia definitely needs to release better vrams than 8-12 gb on a 300-700$ card if the 300$ ps5 is gonna have 16 gb of vram though.

Even if you like Nvidia, you can't deny that monopolies are rarely pro consumer and yet if you touch ai at all, amd won't run cuda / stable diffusion much at all. But if you're gaming, they tend to have fair vram though.

[PantsuMask]

Been playing two days no problems here... playing 3hours to 6hours in sessions.