Breeding passive Traits question

[Astral]

Okay, I have spent 3 hours breeding a two Direwolf one with Swift and Runner and another with Burly Body and Iron Skin... no other traits on each one. When I hatch the eggs I have never gotten all 4 of the traits from the two parents after trying for 3 hours and have hatched like 20 of them. What are the chances an offspring can get both traits from both parents? at least 50% of the time I get only 1 to 2 matching traits with randomn other trains instead. Only two time have I gotten 3 of the 4 desired traits with a "negative" 4th trait.

Anyone know if the RNG is just too random to waste time trying for 4 traits from a parent? Because after 3 hours of it... I am burning out fast.

[RegalKain]

To give you an idea.
To get this thing ( https://gyazo.com/4be5df82c116715a79531ec9deab1c3c ) It took me around 130 breeds. My recommendation is set up a breeding farm, give it some cake. Then ♥♥♥♥ off and do other stuff for awhile. Set up like 10-15 egg incubators so you can power through eggs, but otherwise don't sit and watch or babysit it much
Just come back once in awhile to smack eggs in incubators then ♥♥♥♥ off to do something fun again.

[Tanyon]

So yea the breeding sucks.. way too much RNG.

I've been trying to make an Anubis with slave worker, runner, artisan and any other perk..

I have 2 pals BOTH have slave worker and artisan.. then one has runner and the other has dainty eater. I have hatched.. 50? eggs.. and have yet to get a single one that has more than just those two of those traits.. ohh wait ONE time I got Artisan, Slave Worker and vanguard..

So yea.. the RNG is random as hell. We NEED a mod or a system that after a time.. we can simply pick the ones we want.. you have spent 3 hours? I am like 20-25 hours deep into this Anubis and have yet to get the one I want.

[Szorrin]

It will randomly inherit 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 of the passive skills of its parents. The exact odds of this are, as far as I'm aware, not known. So far it looks like it's a lot rarer to inherit 4 passive skills from the parents, though. Also, if less than 4 are inherited, there's a chance for random passive skills to be generated.

[GrandTickler]

just RNG issue, keep breeding :)
took me about 60+ eggs to get this one. i dont have access to legendary yet
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3152029086

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

just RNG issue, keep breeding :)
took me about 60+ eggs to get this one. i dont have access to legendary yet
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3152029086

Ohh I'd love that on my Kattress. Great stats.

[TemplarGFX]

Ive been breeding for like a week and bred hundreds of pals. I have never seen a pal born with every trait from both parents when the parents have 2 skills or more (totalling 4 skills over both parents)

I have seen pals born with all skills of one parent, All but one skills of one parent and a skill from the other parent.

I think it would be better to try and get 2 parents that have a total of 3 skills that you want, but no skills you dont want and no overlap. The newborns will have a greater chance of having the skills of the parent for 3 skills and one skill thats random. I think one skill is always random and can't be inherited and this is why when your parents have 4 skills you want they never breed children with all 4.

[RegalKain]

The Balamut I linked had each of those traits on the parents. 2 on each parent. It's possible, it just takes a lot. You should also refine your breeding. If you manage to get a "perfect" 2 traits you want and nothing else on each parent that's best.

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

just RNG issue, keep breeding :)
took me about 60+ eggs to get this one. i dont have access to legendary yet
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3152029086

Ohh I'd love that on my Kattress. Great stats.

thanks, i love your idea of a worker oriented anubis as well :P might try that next cause they are super good workers indeed

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

Ohh I'd love that on my Kattress. Great stats.

thanks, i love your idea of a worker oriented anubis as well :P might try that next cause they are super good workers indeed

Dude my artisan/slave worker one literally destroys a full ore rock in like 2 mins.. lol it's hilarious.. and to be fair they are already quite fast.. maybe me wanting runner is just.. me being a bit picky lol.

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

thanks, i love your idea of a worker oriented anubis as well :P might try that next cause they are super good workers indeed

Dude my artisan/slave worker one literally destroys a full ore rock in like 2 mins.. lol it's hilarious.. and to be fair they are already quite fast.. maybe me wanting runner is just.. me being a bit picky lol.

yeah they are crazy fast lol, and i heard once u max out their stars, all the workskills of a pal level up by 1 so all those bred extras come in handy :P do the artisan/slave worker make them attack ore veins faster, or just do more damage to them? i wasnt sure whether it would work on those or whether it just works in the rock pit craftable/handiwork machines.

[GustavoM]

Huh? This seems to be pal-related because it took me less than 5 eggs to make my "uber chicken".

[Mr.Swan]

Well logically after you get one with 2 of the matching traits you want you'll want to breed that one..

[Witch ~]

oh I thought traits were random. I kept breeding 2 parents with awful traits. Oops

[Lahgtah]

I have bred over 210 or so eggs for damn loupmoon, both parents having the traits I want combined, and still just get garbage or things that are one trait off. I'm not even trying anything super special like 4 golden traits: just some good attack traits so it doesn't turn useless after level 40 like loupmoon normally does(some pals or their partner abilities are seriously undertuned compared to others around their same level bracket.)

I'm not doing this BS anymore; it's not even gameplay, literally just waiting and hoping you get lucky. It'd be different if I were actively grinding or progressing towards something, as with the condenser and pal souls. I'd even take something like a consumable that increases chance for certain traits on catches, but this is, by-far, the worst thing in the game. Rest of the game is great, but this is the thorn on the rose. For every person that's happy with what they get out of it, there's probably 2 more or are stuck with endless bad luck, or when/if they do finally get it, the sheer amount of time they put into it won't have been worth it.

It's the same crap every game with RNG; everything that's my favorite sucks, so I have to have good RNG to make it work. I hate my luck in video games.

[Aestrea]

From what i've seen, it's easier to stick the traits if it's like 1+1 from each parent or even 2+1 but if it's 2+2 from each parent then it becomes quite difficult to stick all 4. So i usually go up a ladder on the breeding and just stick in one at a time. If both parents exceed a total of 5 traits with no overlapping traits then it can be a bit chaotic so that should be avoided.