Too many Sphere mats

[Lecruidant]

I feel like 90% of my time around 45-46 is just me doing nothing but crafting spheres. Then the proceeding 10% is me going out and using said spheres before rinsing and repeating. With as many Pals that goes into leveling others up, searching for stats, etc. It's just a little much. The materials required need to be adjusted or something. I have 2 ore farms along with my main base too. Just always need to keep going back and forth it feels.

[Brian9824]

Also keep in mind when farming Pal fluid you can use an Oserk to double loot drops from water pal's

[BoxingBud]

A pal with only one focused suitability, no matter how low, will often be more productive than one with a higher level but multiple suitabilities. That doesn't mean the jack of all trades is worse, it means they do all the things when focus is necessary. With the right synnergies (pals that do stuff the jack of all trades does not) then you got some good productivity.

[MrLuckless]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by Rain:

Just use the right spheres for the right levels? I have a ton of lowlevel spheres ready to be thrown, why would i use the expensive ones? Those are reserved for highlevel stuff.

Full Effigy level on a 5% Health level 49 is a 12-13% with an Ultra. I've gone through 30 just on one cap of them. Let alone an actual 50. Which still requires quite a bit of materials, along with everything else you're trying to maintain and craft, like ammo.

For capture rates I just maxed it out in the world settings and sometimes it still feels very....low. The pal spheres have a pretty sharp drop off of effectiveness about every 10 levels per type of sphere.

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by BoxingBud:

dedicated cake making (whatever strategy works for you, I dedicated a base to cake making pretty much but after that dedication you end up with a versatile mat base due to ranches and then I worked on getting better pals through breeding and they end up getting better passives through breeding I've noticed. Also if you get a powerful pal from breeding, you got a way to get more of them for more team members or fusion. Good luck getting a 4 star rare pal relying on wild encounters and 1% catch rates otherwise. Breeding's necessary.

EDIT: Furthermore when you're "rolling" for a good pal to be born if they suck it's not a waste they still go into feed/fusing the one born with the traits you want.

Ranching isn't fun though. It's just you sitting at a base watching them pump things out. I've seen this mentioned over and over. I have a friend who does nothing but log in and sit at his base for hours on end. Some of us like being out there in the big world throwing balls lol Not that Ranching is bad as it IS needed. But it still doesn't take away from anything i've said. Ore just goes into far too much and the 3 base limit sucks for it. In fact, it almost seems like if i'm not regularly; checking on the other bases, the pals are just stuck in a stationary stance not doing anything or farming anything. After like an hour I checked the box and there was like 100 ore in there at one base

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by MrLuckless:

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Full Effigy level on a 5% Health level 49 is a 12-13% with an Ultra. I've gone through 30 just on one cap of them. Let alone an actual 50. Which still requires quite a bit of materials, along with everything else you're trying to maintain and craft, like ammo.

For capture rates I just maxed it out in the world settings and sometimes it still feels very....low. The pal spheres have a pretty sharp drop off of effectiveness about every 10 levels per type of sphere.

And you can't do that on a dedicated private server where multiple people are playing and enjoying one another. Well, you can, but it's not the experience most want. But it proves a point that this was brought up as the experience from a solo game doesn't exactly carry over to production/settings/etc in a multi person dedicated server setting.

[BoxingBud]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by BoxingBud:

dedicated cake making (whatever strategy works for you, I dedicated a base to cake making pretty much but after that dedication you end up with a versatile mat base due to ranches and then I worked on getting better pals through breeding and they end up getting better passives through breeding I've noticed. Also if you get a powerful pal from breeding, you got a way to get more of them for more team members or fusion. Good luck getting a 4 star rare pal relying on wild encounters and 1% catch rates otherwise. Breeding's necessary.

EDIT: Furthermore when you're "rolling" for a good pal to be born if they suck it's not a waste they still go into feed/fusing the one born with the traits you want.

Ranching isn't fun though. It's just you sitting at a base watching them pump things out. I've seen this mentioned over and over. I have a friend who does nothing but log in and sit at his base for hours on end. Some of us like being out there in the big world throwing balls lol Not that Ranching is bad as it IS needed. But it still doesn't take away from anything i've said. Ore just goes into far too much and the 3 base limit sucks for it. In fact, it almost seems like if i'm not regularly; checking on the other bases, the pals are just stuck in a stationary stance not doing anything or farming anything. After like an hour I checked the box and there was like 100 ore in there at one base

I do a few things, keep an eye on breeding, "oil" the cake factory (pick up baked cakes, start a new batch, put in harvested wheat into the mill etc) maybe do a boss battle and when I come back the (dedicated) ranch is VERY full of the mat I am looking for (so all cows for milk, chickens for eggs or bees for honey, for the cake, for breeding) I just run around and collect it all and put it in a barrel for the cake, including flour, but not wheat, that goes into the mill) But I don't watch the ranch, I do whatever, sometimes I go days later and there's literally hundreds lying around (keep an eye on the limit of items your world can have.) once I have 1k of an ingredient I change the pals to another focus (bee, chicken) it's faster that way then trying to get all three ingredients at once.

EDIT: That base has two ranches for this. The other base has two breeding pens, so once I find a pal I want to upgrade it's actually not that difficult. If I need a mat desperately then you can breed and use the butcher knife to get what you need.

[GrandTickler]

the problem is more due to mining pals stopping their work once u are at a certain range. it almost becomes a requirement to afk at this base for a couple hours to generate thousands of ore

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

the problem is more due to mining pals stopping their work once u are at a certain range. it almost becomes a requirement to afk at this base for a couple hours to generate thousands of ore

Honestly this is basically what the issue is. If you just go do what you want and expect them to automate while your'e off adventuring. They simply don't. Plain and simple. Even though that's what they are meant to do.

[Xandor]

I used 2 bases for getting Ore.
Now and then I went and killed bosses, did dungeons and a little breeding.

I almost didn't have to wait at all to make spheres. I basically didn't spend any time gathering materials.

[wildbill]

I agree, the grind is too much so I'm just collecting eggs and not taming high level stuff that takes the higher tier spheres. I'm leveling just hatching the eggs. I did some breeding too, which also is essentially just hatching eggs.

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by Xandor:

I used 2 bases for getting Ore.
Now and then I went and killed bosses, did dungeons and a little breeding.

I almost didn't have to wait at all to make spheres. I basically didn't spend any time gathering materials.

You have to have been on a Solo game. I'm starting to think that the "idle" nature/being completely frozen until you visit said base is only a Multiple thing.

[Oakshadow]

Not sure if it's Vixy's or Mau's but one of these two pals will drop pal balls while at the ranch. I think the Vixy drops arrows as well.

It's probably the easiest source for palballs you'll get early on.

I'm not far enough along to experiment too hard with the pal blender *ahem* I mean 'condensor'. But I imagine getting your pal to 4 or 5 stars will increase their production levels as well. So a 5 star vixy might drop better quality stuff in the ranch than a no star one?

/shrug worth looking into though if you ask me.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Jay:

Not sure if it's Vixy's or Mau's but one of these two pals will drop pal balls while at the ranch. I think the Vixy drops arrows as well.

It's probably the easiest source for palballs you'll get early on.

I'm not far enough along to experiment too hard with the pal blender *ahem* I mean 'condensor'. But I imagine getting your pal to 4 or 5 stars will increase their production levels as well. So a 5 star vixy might drop better quality stuff in the ranch than a no star one?

/shrug worth looking into though if you ask me.

It isn't the blue spheres that are hard to grind out. Like you have found, you can get a vixy to get lots of blue spheres and at some point, you don't need to craft them anymore. So far I've found no similar way to get the 4 other tiered spheres. And you will need a lot of those and the grind is tough.

I've done a bit of condensing, but haven't figured out if that helps with the crafting and resources. Some pals are great though. The Sibelyx drops fine cloth. Anubis is a fantastic miner along with some others for mining. Wixen and Anubis are fast at crafting.

[MS]

the only non automated part about legendary spheres is the pal liquid part of cement, which can be farmed in bulk very quickly.

Paldium fragment: 100% automated. Stone > frags
Pal Metal Ingot: 100% automated. Ore + frag > ingot
Carbon Fiber: 100% automated. Wood > charcoal > fiber
Cement: half automated. Spend 5 minutes farming pal liquids and you'll have enough for hundreds of balls. Bones can be bought in unlimited amounts for 100 gold each, so buy 1k in 10 seconds and you're set for weeks.

Conclusion: You're doing something (likely many things) wrong.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by MS:

the only non automated part about legendary spheres is the pal liquid part of cement, which can be farmed in bulk very quickly.

Paldium fragment: 100% automated. Stone > frags
Pal Metal Ingot: 100% automated. Ore + frag > ingot
Carbon Fiber: 100% automated. Wood > charcoal > fiber
Cement: half automated. Spend 5 minutes farming pal liquids and you'll have enough for hundreds of balls. Bones can be bought in unlimited amounts for 100 gold each, so buy 1k in 10 seconds and you're set for weeks.

Conclusion: You're doing something (likely many things) wrong.

Eh its a bit of an exageration on the pal liquid unless your setting loot drops to like 10x. 1-2 Pal fluid per pal killed isn't exactly alot. I farmed a few hundred fluid last night, takes more like ~2 hours on normal settings, but not too bad.