Attack stat is NOT worth it?

[riscdesign]

Attack stat seems to be worthless for attacking.
We start off with 100 attack and a level up makes it 102. Whats the point when my crossbow has an attack of 350 and the musket puts me at 1000?
All the other stats produce a nice noticeable increase in the beginning, so increasing your stamina from 100 to 110 is a 10% increase. HP increase from 500 to 600 is a 20% increase. The attack stat increases should be similarly meaningful.

[Echo2Omega]

İlk olarak Dr. Germs tarafından gönderildi:

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i did hp, weight and stam on here learned the hard way on xbox. i saw a video where the guy said at 43 you can respec not sure how to do it thought. i think it was on a ign video but i could be wrong

Any Confirmation to this?

The electric medical station lets you craft a drink that lets you respec.
It takes a metric ton of mats to make though.

[Jenkem Junkie]

İlk olarak Elvi tarafından gönderildi:

The bigger thing, mid-to-late-ish game, Pals you have will do most of the damage anyhow, so I'd say yeah, leveling Attack stat is worthless.

After unlocking the makeshift handgun, I'd say it seems like the guns do a pretty significant amount of damage as I've seen it do 1,000 in a single hit multiple times.

[Merix Style]

Well I never had to make it in fact I had no idea you could, I find them on drops and I keep them when I need a heavy work load

[Elvi]

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İlk olarak Elvi tarafından gönderildi:

The bigger thing, mid-to-late-ish game, Pals you have will do most of the damage anyhow, so I'd say yeah, leveling Attack stat is worthless.

After unlocking the makeshift handgun, I'd say it seems like the guns do a pretty significant amount of damage as I've seen it do 1,000 in a single hit multiple times.

On a basic low level pal, sure. But you can do with abasic pixaxe just as well, I'm mostly thinking of the bosses and bigger enemies. Or perhaps as many noted here, maybe if you spec all out into attack and make your whole team 4star and stacking partner buffs into attack/element, which I honestly didn't try at all.
Using pals in the pals game still seems simpler to me than trying to remake it into a flat out 3rd person shooter, but whatever works for each person, that's the magic of this game I think, haha.

[Jenkem Junkie]

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İlk olarak Jenkem Junkie tarafından gönderildi:

After unlocking the makeshift handgun, I'd say it seems like the guns do a pretty significant amount of damage as I've seen it do 1,000 in a single hit multiple times.

On a basic low level pal, sure. But you can do with abasic pixaxe just as well, I'm mostly thinking of the bosses and bigger enemies. Or perhaps as many noted here, maybe if you spec all out into attack and make your whole team 4star and stacking partner buffs into attack/element, which I honestly didn't try at all.
Using pals in the pals game still seems simpler to me than trying to remake it into a flat out 3rd person shooter, but whatever works for each person, that's the magic of this game I think, haha.

That's the thing, though. I was doing it against a relaxasaurus, and they seem to spawn between 15-20 (I'm 27 for reference). To be fair, it only did it rarely on a critical hit, so I have no idea if it's a bug, but after seeing that happen I'm pretty convinced the guns are amazingly useful compared to every other weapon type.

[Mr.Swan]

2000 hp
1000 carry weight
300 stamina.

[Elvi]

İlk olarak Jenkem Junkie tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Elvi tarafından gönderildi:

On a basic low level pal, sure. But you can do with abasic pixaxe just as well, I'm mostly thinking of the bosses and bigger enemies. Or perhaps as many noted here, maybe if you spec all out into attack and make your whole team 4star and stacking partner buffs into attack/element, which I honestly didn't try at all.
Using pals in the pals game still seems simpler to me than trying to remake it into a flat out 3rd person shooter, but whatever works for each person, that's the magic of this game I think, haha.

That's the thing, though. I was doing it against a relaxasaurus, and they seem to spawn between 15-20 (I'm 27 for reference). To be fair, it only did it rarely on a critical hit, so I have no idea if it's a bug, but after seeing that happen I'm pretty convinced the guns are amazingly useful compared to every other weapon type.

Honestly, if you are hitting the blue brontosaurus guys for 1000 with makeshift handgun, only think I can think of is that you play with played damage multiplier NOT on 1 but somewhere much, much higher.
Then again, not claiming to be a super expert here, but sure is not my experience even with blue handgun which has like 1/3rd more damage per shot base damage. 1000 feels more like hitting a sleeping non-boss pal in the eye.

Edit: Poped in the game very fast and shot random lvl 16 in the desert with an assault rifle, which has the same base as makeshift gun I think, and headshots were for 800-900, so there is actually very good chance I'm just wrong and too stuck on bosses, haha.

[Xandor]

With 515% attack.

Against a lvl 49 dark boss it takes 5 shots with my 12 ammo shotgun to kill the boss.
I can't shoot a non boss lvl 40 enemy without killing it.
A lvl 45 fire boss died in 5 shots with half shots missing vital point.

The only enemies that prove any challenge is the legendary pals and tower bosses.
Normal bosses does not have time to use their first attack.

(I hope they add some content that is inbetween normal bosses and the towers/legendary pals)

[Greldinart]

go full weight and hp.
and dont worry, mid end game, one food can reset your stats if you want to check the damage/defense....i think its quite useless until you get a team with lot of attack/defense. and upgraded weapon plan

[Storm Reaver]

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2000 hp
1000 carry weight
300 stamina.

I'm similar.
3000 Health Points
1000 Carry Weight
200 Stamina

Flying Mount made stamina less important. But my 200 Stamina was so useful when climbing the Volcano where I found my Huge Dragon Egg. :P

[riscdesign]

This got a lot more replies than I expected in such a short time.....
But some of you are right. I am just level 29.

I am appreciate the high level insights. I don't really want to respec unless I really have to and I am not going to do it until the bugs are worked out. I will say that my 190 Stamina has been a great help to me thus far. Whatever the theory crafting is for beating final bosses, having to stop and rest less improves my enjoyment of the game so its a good investment I think.

[SpiTFireTM]

İlk olarak Elvi tarafından gönderildi:

The bigger thing, mid-to-late-ish game, Pals you have will do most of the damage anyhow, so I'd say yeah, leveling Attack stat is worthless.

Unless you get "legendary assault rifle" then it will destory anything you shoot at. any boss any legendary.

[Kasa]

İlk olarak Vovarush tarafından gönderildi:

You misunderstand attack. Your attack stat is a dmg multiplier to your weapons attack. And you get a lot of defensive stats out of armour, which makes calculations in the late game a lot more favourable towards attack

There is another thread were the attack formula was figured out.

Attack Formula: [100 + (2* Stats Points)] + % (Gears + Pals);

It's not a % addition.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1623730/discussions/0/4139438760461757710/?ctp=4

[Xandor]

İlk olarak riscdesign tarafından gönderildi:

This got a lot more replies than I expected in such a short time.....
But some of you are right. I am just level 29.

I am appreciate the high level insights. I don't really want to respec unless I really have to and I am not going to do it until the bugs are worked out. I will say that my 190 Stamina has been a great help to me thus far. Whatever the theory crafting is for beating final bosses, having to stop and rest less improves my enjoyment of the game so its a good investment I think.

The game is beatable without putting any point in any attribute (although with no weight it would be really bothersome).
It is fine to play in any way, with stamina you can use more sliding down slopes (sprint and crouch / shift+C) and then jump and use a glider for longer, a fun alternative way to travel other than just using a flyer.

[Cash]

Honestly feels like the same stat impact as Ark Survival evolved but super under tuned... i stil have not invested any stat into str and adjusted the multipliers on dmg and got a better result for my world... Y'all have to play around with the sliders in the world options more....OR get some good blueprints my dam rare pistol can kill lv. 40-50 pals in a few crit hits