Bland open world

[Multihog]

I feel let down by the hype when it comes to the open world. The world just feels dead, like some MMORPG map. You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks.

[Mr.Swan]

you're on a palworld discussion bored i think you're looking for starfield.

[k1ska]

Originally posted by Multihog:

Is this what's considered good exploration nowadays? The world just feels dead, like some MMORPG map. You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks. I guess people's standards have sunk low, and they'll take anything as long as it has these generic "survival" mechanics.

Don't farm for jester awards.

People, don't give out any awards to anyone, especially me or OP.

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Multihog:

You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks. I guess people's standards have sunk low, and they'll take anything as long as it has these generic "survival" mechanics.

Do you know game that does it better by chance?

[Kinzuko]

the pals and resources to acquire are the content, and while there are large stretches of the map with actually nothing there are even larger stretches with **something** i suspect there will be more stuff to do between point A and B but we will have to wait for that. so far its one of the better early access games i have played and one of the better survival craft games on the market. not sure how PvP may sway my opinion on that but im perfectly happy in my single player world atm

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Multihog:

You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks. I guess people's standards have sunk low, and they'll take anything as long as it has these generic "survival" mechanics.

Do you know game that does it better by chance?

Oh yeah, pretty much any. Pick any modern open world game, for example RDR2, AC Odyssey, Far Cry 5, Breath of the Wild, The Witcher 3, etc.

This game feels like walking around in The Barrens in vanilla WoW but without the MMO aspect that makes it interesting. Here it's just empty zones with braindead Pals walking back and forth, just like any Defias Footpad or Mottled Boar in WoW. Theres nothing cool happening and next to nothing to find. No random chaos that goes on regardless of you, like mobs fighting randomly, little to no environmental storytelling, no friendly NPCs going about their lives, barely any detailed handcrafted locational stuff, and so on.

[DJ Benito]

Originally posted by Multihog:

Is this what's considered good exploration nowadays? The world just feels dead, like some MMORPG map. You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks. I guess people's standards have sunk low, and they'll take anything as long as it has these generic "survival" mechanics.

I agree with you, but i also wanna pull the boring arguement of this game is early access its subject to change. For what we have now im enjoying this more than the latest AAA titles ive played. Though yes the map is a bit bland boring after a while and i also feel the lack of "character" in the map there should be more structures NPC's whatever helps give the map a more lively feel to it.

[Elfblood]

It would help if there where more interactions between some mobs. wolfs hunting chicken, some weather elements the mobs react to.. its just that the map is just static dead. townsfolk is just standing there forever etc. give them a life.

[Multihog]

Originally posted by DJ Benito:

Originally posted by Multihog:

Is this what's considered good exploration nowadays? The world just feels dead, like some MMORPG map. You just have these braindead mobs walking back and forth. Nothing is happening, and there's barely anything to find. Then you have the dungeons. That's about it. It lacks a proper incentive to explore. The combat is also mediocre at best, so it's not even fun to fight.

The base building and automation by way of your Pals is good, but wow, this map sucks. I guess people's standards have sunk low, and they'll take anything as long as it has these generic "survival" mechanics.

I agree with you, but i also wanna pull the boring arguement of this game is early access its subject to change. For what we have now im enjoying this more than the latest AAA titles ive played. Though yes the map is a bit bland boring after a while and i also feel the lack of "character" in the map there should be more structures NPC's whatever helps give the map a more lively feel to it.

Yes, I was having a blast with the game initially, but after some hours I realized my fun was entirely limited to the confines of my base area. Every time I had to stop building to venture into the world, it failed to deliver, and I just wanted to play other open world games.

Yeah, the world needs a lot to become compelling. I don't think this game has wings with the world being as it is currently. It feels like something that was randomly generated, with mobs spawned randomly, with random patrol routes.

Originally posted by Elfblood:

It would help if there where more interactions between some mobs. wolfs hunting chicken, some weather elements the mobs react to.. its just that the map is just static dead. townsfolk is just standing there forever etc. give them a life.

Big +1 to this.

Far Cry to me in large part is fun because the world tends to live without you. You have stuff such as faction warfare, random animal attacks, animals hunting each other, etc. Systemic randomness.

This game lacks all of that. If you don't move, nothing moves. This stuff was maybe okay back in 2005, but modern open worlds have evolved beyond this sort of static design, so it's hard to be entertained.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Multihog:

Originally posted by Butcher:

Do you know game that does it better by chance?

Oh yeah, pretty much any. Pick any modern open world game, for example RDR2, AC Odyssey, Far Cry 5, Breath of the Wild, The Witcher 3, etc.

This game feels like walking around in The Barrens in vanilla WoW but without the MMO aspect that makes it interesting. Here it's just empty zones with braindead Pals walking back and forth, just like any Defias Footpad or Mottled Boar in WoW. Theres nothing cool happening and next to nothing to find. No random chaos that goes on regardless of you, like mobs fighting randomly, little to no environmental storytelling, no friendly NPCs going about their lives, barely any detailed handcrafted locational stuff, and so on.

So you're telling all of us that you can go and capture creatures in a big sandbox open world with tons of wildlife and base building better in farcry? last I checked far cry is just go to bandit camp, do pew pew on the same 3 enemy variants, done

[Elfblood]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Multihog:

Oh yeah, pretty much any. Pick any modern open world game, for example RDR2, AC Odyssey, Far Cry 5, Breath of the Wild, The Witcher 3, etc.

This game feels like walking around in The Barrens in vanilla WoW but without the MMO aspect that makes it interesting. Here it's just empty zones with braindead Pals walking back and forth, just like any Defias Footpad or Mottled Boar in WoW. Theres nothing cool happening and next to nothing to find. No random chaos that goes on regardless of you, like mobs fighting randomly, little to no environmental storytelling, no friendly NPCs going about their lives, barely any detailed handcrafted locational stuff, and so on.

So you're telling all of us that you can go and capture creatures in a big sandbox open world with tons of wildlife and base building better in farcry? last I checked far cry is just go to bandit camp, do pew pew on the same 3 enemy variants, done

you should read again...

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Multihog:

Oh yeah, pretty much any. Pick any modern open world game, for example RDR2, AC Odyssey, Far Cry 5, Breath of the Wild, The Witcher 3, etc.

This game feels like walking around in The Barrens in vanilla WoW but without the MMO aspect that makes it interesting. Here it's just empty zones with braindead Pals walking back and forth, just like any Defias Footpad or Mottled Boar in WoW. Theres nothing cool happening and next to nothing to find. No random chaos that goes on regardless of you, like mobs fighting randomly, little to no environmental storytelling, no friendly NPCs going about their lives, barely any detailed handcrafted locational stuff, and so on.

So you're telling all of us that you can go and capture creatures in a big sandbox open world with tons of wildlife and base building better in farcry? last I checked far cry is just go to bandit camp, do pew pew on the same 3 enemy variants, done

Play Far Cry 5, place your guy in any random location, and see what happens. Odds are a lot of stuff will take place without you doing anything - stuff like I mentioned before: animals hunting, faction warfare, animals attacking people, random NPCs passing by and maybe talking to each other, possibly fires breaking out from various things, weather changing, helicopters flying overhead, and probably more possibilities.

The point is that the world feels alive because it moves without your influence necessarily. Here not even the Pals interact with each other. They just mindlessly walk back and forth.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Multihog:

Originally posted by Ghost:

So you're telling all of us that you can go and capture creatures in a big sandbox open world with tons of wildlife and base building better in farcry? last I checked far cry is just go to bandit camp, do pew pew on the same 3 enemy variants, done

Play Far Cry 5, place your guy in any random location, and see what happens. Odds are a lot of stuff will take place without you doing anything - stuff like I mentioned before: animals hunting, faction warfare, animals attacking people, random NPCs passing by and maybe talking to each other, possibly fires breaking out from various things, weather changing, helicopters flying overhead, and probably more possibilities.

The point is that the world feels alive because it moves without your influence necessarily. Here not even the Pals interact with each other. They just mindlessly walk back and forth.

I've had several moments where I'll see random fights and such between pals, I've seen direhowls hunting down chickens and everything so idk what you're missing with that

[Multihog]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by Multihog:

Play Far Cry 5, place your guy in any random location, and see what happens. Odds are a lot of stuff will take place without you doing anything - stuff like I mentioned before: animals hunting, faction warfare, animals attacking people, random NPCs passing by and maybe talking to each other, possibly fires breaking out from various things, weather changing, helicopters flying overhead, and probably more possibilities.

The point is that the world feels alive because it moves without your influence necessarily. Here not even the Pals interact with each other. They just mindlessly walk back and forth.

I've had several moments where I'll see random fights and such between pals, I've seen direhowls hunting down chickens and everything so idk what you're missing with that

You might be right. I have a vague recollection of that maybe having happened in my game, though I'm not 100%. In any case, it's probably not enough because the world still feels dead to me overall.

Maybe it's the lack of other humans that aren't just standing still? Maybe it's that there aren't enough detailed locations with hints of environmental storytelling? I'm not sure.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Elfblood:

Originally posted by Ghost:

So you're telling all of us that you can go and capture creatures in a big sandbox open world with tons of wildlife and base building better in farcry? last I checked far cry is just go to bandit camp, do pew pew on the same 3 enemy variants, done

you should read again...

I read it quite clearly, they're making arguments for a game that's basically meant to be pokemon x ark though, this isn't meant to be a hand tailored story immersion experience, it's meant to be an open monster catching sandbox with more focus on the building, exploration, catching, and dungeons and such

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Multihog:

Originally posted by Ghost:

I've had several moments where I'll see random fights and such between pals, I've seen direhowls hunting down chickens and everything so idk what you're missing with that

You might be right. I have a vague recollection of that maybe having happened in my game, though I'm not 100%. In any case, it's probably not enough because the world still feels dead to me overall.

Maybe it's the lack of other humans that aren't just standing still?

I mean there are certainly humans that roam around both hostile and friendly