Pokemon company statement regarding palworld

[mineragrl]

https://twitter.com/wario64/status/1750363801780617274

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Originally posted by Butcher:

Asset flip being a better and more fun game than anything Nintendo ever produced... that must hurt.

Doesn't resolve the issue and this is deflection. Nice try though. FYI, keep pretending I like Nintendo which is a company that's on my **** list and has been for years.

Then what's the problem? Why are you trying so hard to shill for billion dollar corporation? You don't even own the Palworld.

[Mikedot]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Originally posted by Mikedot:

Yes, I do. I even own Craftopia. While their games are obviously derivative of other more popular games, they're still legally distinct enough, because if you want to argue that their games are crossing a legal line, then why hasn't Nintendo also sued Pocketpair for Craftopia, then?

What the **** are you even talking about? Are you high bro? First off, we're talking about whether or not they are just using assets that they haven't created which is 100% true as nothing they have here has been handcrafted whether we are talking about this game or any of their others. Secondly, what does craftopia have to do with stealing assets and using them for this specific game which is likely what they are about to be sued for?

First off: Don't reach for insults. It doesn't help your argument.
Second: It's already been proven that assets haven't been stolen. The models have completely different topologies which suggests that they were all made by scratch. You can argue that they used Pokemon models as a reference to make something very similar, but that isn't the same as stealing assets.

[Maluszek89]

so we must play quicker :D and more :D before they close :D anyway its still offline possible :D ninteno and konami and gejmer freik never make so good game for pc. only poor games for android and I-os. no respect from me

[NewMoonShadow]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Originally posted by Mikedot:

Yes, I do. I even own Craftopia. While their games are obviously derivative of other more popular games, they're still legally distinct enough, because if you want to argue that their games are crossing a legal line, then why hasn't Nintendo also sued Pocketpair for Craftopia, then?

What the **** are you even talking about? Are you high bro? First off, we're talking about whether or not they are just using assets that they haven't created which is 100% true as nothing they have here has been handcrafted whether we are talking about this game or any of their others. Secondly, what does craftopia have to do with stealing assets and using them for this specific game which is likely what they are about to be sued for?

It's actually quite normal for companies to purchase music and graphical assets from outside of the development studio for their games, Nintendo themselves have historically been known to do this for textures and sound effects in some of their biggest titles, including Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. This isn't a problem, it's only a problem when a game is nothing but those assets with no changes, which is CLEARLY not the case here.

[Arndell]

Originally posted by terrcraft:

Originally posted by Hallowedsoul08:

Nintendo WILL lose. There is a reason why Digimon, Temtem, and Monster Rancher exist.

japans legal system is a lot stricter on copyright so idk.

That will probably work in favour of Palworld then, because by the strict definition of the law, they are doing nothing wrong.

It's the intentionally vague "justice if you can afford it" system the west has that leads to things like Bethesda literally owning the word "Scrolls" and countless other idiotic examples of the legal system being abused.

[Deceiver9811]

Originally posted by Arndell:

Originally posted by terrcraft:

japans legal system is a lot stricter on copyright so idk.

That will probably work in favour of Palworld then, because by the strict definition of the law, they are doing nothing wrong.

It's the intentionally vague "justice if you can afford it" system the west has that leads to things like Bethesda literally owning the word "Scrolls" and countless other idiotic examples of the legal system being abused.

By the strict definition of what law? American Law? European Law?

[Zinkr7x]

Originally posted by (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

Originally posted by Magic Toast:

If somehow Palworld gets taken down and Game Freak releases gen 10 pokemon that looks worse than sword/shield and plays the exact same as every mainline game has for the last 20 years, it'll be proof that we cannot have nice things.

Well, from what I saw it isn't that it is a copycat, it is more about a model issue from what other developers were stating.

Apparently, they used identical models that would be impossible to copy as many times as is happening in this game. I don't know the full story or about it but there was an article discussing it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/palworld-accused-of-copying-pokemon-models-developer-pushes-back-says-artists-are-being-slandered/

EDIT: I just want people to know - I think its fine with how many other ripoffs exists, I just rather have a game that is as enjoyable as this in the pokemon setting that isn't just straight up family friendly. So hope this goes no wear and the game is fine.

EDIT: More info at this post.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1623730/discussions/0/4139438760458884185/#c4139438760458925869

None of the models are identical. Any 3D modeler that looks at it points out that the models themselves are clearly different, which you can tell because the wireframe meshes don't match at all. They're pointing out other areas of concern,

[Zinkr7x]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Originally posted by DeathKnightZ:

Hoping game does not get shut down by gamefreak. Would literally destroy the dev if had to refund everyone or worse.

Then don't make lazy asset flips and especially don't steal the work of others. They teach you this before you even leave high school or whatever highest grade education teens leave before becoming an adult.

Well it's not a lazy asset flip by all definitions of what an asset flip is. They also did not steal the work of others at all.
And most importantly, coypright is not taught before you left high school. Copyright is not something most people learn about at all.

[NiteNightKnight]

In other words we don't care stop spamming us

[Zinkr7x]

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Man I'm just going to keep taking the "wait and see" approach. The copium is hitting a lot of people hard 😂 I don't even like pokemon. They ran out of talent over a decade ago. I just find it hilarious that people think that obvious theft is okay because it's their new toy. A toy that is nothing but asset flips 😂 While not everything needs to be original, there is pretty much absolutely nothing in this game that is original, all of these concepts basically already exist.

Well they say ignorance is bliss.
You can't copyright a concept, all the designs are obviously not stolen. It's copyright, not similarright. Right now the only relevant discussion in terms of copyright is about the models, which are conclusively not Pokemon original models given they have an obviously different wireframe mesh.

[Arthurian Enthusiast]

Originally posted by Butcher:

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Doesn't resolve the issue and this is deflection. Nice try though. FYI, keep pretending I like Nintendo which is a company that's on my **** list and has been for years.

Then what's the problem? Why are you trying so hard to shill for billion dollar corporation? You don't even own the Palworld.

I know Nintendo ♥♥♥♥♥♥ your wife or something but this black and white narrative of people questioning things somehow equals shilling for a corporation is retarded. So is blind hatred for it, really.

[Purple Sauce]

Originally posted by Mikedot:

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

What the **** are you even talking about? Are you high bro? First off, we're talking about whether or not they are just using assets that they haven't created which is 100% true as nothing they have here has been handcrafted whether we are talking about this game or any of their others. Secondly, what does craftopia have to do with stealing assets and using them for this specific game which is likely what they are about to be sued for?

First off: Don't reach for insults. It doesn't help your argument.
Second: It's already been proven that assets haven't been stolen. The models have completely different topologies which suggests that they were all made by scratch. You can argue that they used Pokemon models as a reference to make something very similar, but that isn't the same as stealing assets.

Okay so now lets just say that they traced the stolen assets. Still illegal.

[Step]

Nothing to say to Nintendo
they are right

come on guys, I dont even support them, the last games by Gamefreak were absolute ♥♥♥♥.

But the assets of this game, the Pals, are 100% copied by Pokemon. Just look Luxio, Lucario, Wooloo etc. they are identical.
Nintendo is right.

[Purple Sauce]

Originally posted by Zinkr7x:

Originally posted by Purple Sauce:

Then don't make lazy asset flips and especially don't steal the work of others. They teach you this before you even leave high school or whatever highest grade education teens leave before becoming an adult.

Well it's not a lazy asset flip by all definitions of what an asset flip is. They also did not steal the work of others at all.
And most importantly, coypright is not taught before you left high school. Copyright is not something most people learn about at all.

One look at their crafting animations and you think that they aren't just flipping assets? Bro it's the exact same animation that fortnite has. You have to be trolling.

[Cha0ticInsanity]

I honestly think the Nintendo fanboys are a little miffed because in the last 20 years it's been the same pokemon and well, here comes Palworld and they can't have that. Maybe this will show Nintendo that they need to mix up their formula and actually try new things. People want to play with their friends and capture monsters and go exploring a world together with their pocket pals. Numbers don't lie.