Terrible performance on 3050 4gb laptop

[Yapachi]

Hello, I am a user of Vivobook pro 16x. AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, 16gb ram SSD memory, about 200gb free, GeForce RTX 3050 for laptops with 4gb video memory.

I can't get more than 20 fps in this game, and that's when doing nothing. The game is completely unplayable for me.

Checked driver updates, ran an antivirus scan, tried every in-game setting, nothing worked

[BoBas]

your problem: 4gb GPU memory

[Albireo]

How are your temps?

[Yapachi]

Originally posted by BoBas:

your problem: 4gb GPU memory

It only uses 2.3 gb of vram. Besides, why would a game like this need more? A terrible waste

Originally posted by Albireo:

How are your temps?

At about 80 *C

[aY227]

Playing without problems on 980M

Weird temperatures for such a game - sounds like throttling

[Triago]

80C on a laptop RTX 3050?
Something is very, very wrong. use GPU-Z to see if your GPU is Thermal throttling. If it is, that`s why. Your GPU puts the frequency way down in an attempt to cool itself down.
My RTX 2060 notebook was doing something simillar, then I went into the Nvidia control panel and changed the power policy to adaptive and it stopped hitting those high temps, butin my case I'm due repasting the damn thing.

[VerdiusArcana (Castaway.tf)]

TL;DR below

3050 is a entry gaming video card.
The GTX 1080 (released in 2016) smashes that card by about 37% in performance overall.
The Laptop version of the 3050 is even worser (what you have), the GTX 1080 outperforms it by 82%!!!

The rules for buying Nvidia cards is simple:

xx50 = Entry level, barely a graphics card for gaming.
xx60 = Entry level gaming graphics card.
xx70 = Mid tier gaming graphics card. Is decent option if you cannot afford higher.
xx80 = High tier gaming graphics card. This is the standard, was the previous highest offering.
xx90 = Daddys credit card or you have been saving money for a good while.

Graphics cards for laptops are also always underpowered compared to desktop.
For example: The RTX 3050 outperforms the RTX 3050 Laptop version by
33%.

Basically, if you want the performance on laptop comparable to desktop, you should aim for a number higher on the third number.
Performance you want | The Laptop version of the same generation of card that matches or exceeds it.
RTX 3050 = RTX 3060 Laptop (it even outperforms it by a tiny bit).
RTX 3060 = RTX 3070 Laptop.

And so on it goes.

The two (or first number in the case for example GTX 970) is the generation.
Generations don't start mattering until the two last numbers are only one off, or especially the same, or the generational leap is huge.

For example the GTX 1070 outperforms the GTX 970 by 62%.
And the GTX 1060 outperforms the GTX 970 by 14%.
But the GTX 1050 get's rekt by the GTX 970 by 91%.

The GTX 1050 smashes a GTX 580 by... 13%. Yes even with such a massive generational leap, the gain is very small, but generation did start mattering.


TL;DR version:
For Nvidia, never go below 70 on the last two numbers if you want to have a decent gaming experience.

[Paroe]

Originally posted by Yapachi:

Originally posted by BoBas:

your problem: 4gb GPU memory

It only uses 2.3 gb of vram. Besides, why would a game like this need more? A terrible waste

Originally posted by Albireo:

How are your temps?

At about 80 *C

What other people said - 80c is pretty high. thats about 175f, the redzone for most towers and most certainly a problem for a laptop.

See if you cant get a fan on it to try and keep those temps below 140f, or reduce graphics settings.

[WOKEGOD]

your gpu sk anyway

[Armos]

Originally posted by Woofy:

I'm getting 20 fps on "very low" settings with a 2080ti though, so i'm sure the game has some sort of bug or optimization problems. My friend can play just fine at 60 fps with a gtx1660.

You could have the best GPU on the planet, but if the CPU can't push the frames, that GPU might as well not exist.

Games like this are going to need at least 6 cores, around 4 ~ 5 GHz clocks. For both CPU and GPU, architecture also matters. Efficiently built, includes CPU instructions that most games request, etc.

[VerdiusArcana (Castaway.tf)]

Originally posted by Woofy:

I'm getting 20 fps on "very low" settings with a 2080ti though, so i'm sure the game has some sort of bug or optimization problems. My friend can play just fine at 60 fps with a gtx1660.

Yhea, there are likely some coding issues and very barebones usage of Unreal Engine.
There was a interview with them not to long ago and they basically admitted they don't really know what they are doing.

But I figured I'd reveal the Nvidia thing so people stop buying these scam laptops that are advertised as gaming laptops but barely fullfill performance we had even back in 2010.

[Armos]

Originally posted by Woofy:

Originally posted by Armos:

You could have the best GPU on the planet, but if the CPU can't push the frames, that GPU might as well not exist.

Games like this are going to need at least 6 cores, around 4 ~ 5 GHz clocks. For both CPU and GPU, architecture also matters. Efficiently built, includes CPU instructions that most games request, etc.

My cpu is i9-9900ks 5.0ghz

Alright, so that system might just be near twice as good as my own, even. No reason you should be getting 20 FPS on low. Goes without saying, but check your system. Thermals, etc. The explanation is more than likely on your end, it's just a matter of finding it, and unfortunately for you, the only one who can do that is you, without someone else having direct access to your PC & hardware.

Sorry you're having trouble running the game. If all else fails, there's always a full reinstall. Make sure there's no bloat on the system that could majorly slow it down. Crypto-mining viruses, the like.

Just to be sure, do all other games run fine, but not Palworld?

[GiantJoe202]

Sell that stinky laptop and buy something solid.

[DarkFenix]

Originally posted by VerdiusArcana:

TL;DR below

3050 is a entry gaming video card.
The GTX 1080 (released in 2016) smashes that card by about 37% in performance overall.
The Laptop version of the 3050 is even worser (what you have), the GTX 1080 outperforms it by 82%!!!

The rules for buying Nvidia cards is simple:

xx50 = Entry level, barely a graphics card for gaming.
xx60 = Entry level gaming graphics card.
xx70 = Mid tier gaming graphics card. Is decent option if you cannot afford higher.
xx80 = High tier gaming graphics card. This is the standard, was the previous highest offering.
xx90 = Daddys credit card or you have been saving money for a good while.

Graphics cards for laptops are also always underpowered compared to desktop.
For example: The RTX 3050 outperforms the RTX 3050 Laptop version by
33%.

Basically, if you want the performance on laptop comparable to desktop, you should aim for a number higher on the third number.
Performance you want | The Laptop version of the same generation of card that matches or exceeds it.
RTX 3050 = RTX 3060 Laptop (it even outperforms it by a tiny bit).
RTX 3060 = RTX 3070 Laptop.

And so on it goes.

The two (or first number in the case for example GTX 970) is the generation.
Generations don't start mattering until the two last numbers are only one off, or especially the same, or the generational leap is huge.

For example the GTX 1070 outperforms the GTX 970 by 62%.
And the GTX 1060 outperforms the GTX 970 by 14%.
But the GTX 1050 get's rekt by the GTX 970 by 91%.

The GTX 1050 smashes a GTX 580 by... 13%. Yes even with such a massive generational leap, the gain is very small, but generation did start mattering.


TL;DR version:
For Nvidia, never go below 70 on the last two numbers if you want to have a decent gaming experience.

All good advice, 50 series cards are a total scam, I compared around and the RTX 3050 is approximately equivalent to a GTX 980, a nearly 10 year old gpu.

Aside from thermal throttling (because laptop) that dogs**t gpu is the prime suspect in my eyes.

[Yapachi]

Discussion regarding numbers on my 3050 is irrelevant. It runs games like Tarkov, and it's not the best optimized game.

Just changed environment and cleaned my laptop (barely any dust at all). Runs at about 60*C now.

From what I can see in this and other discussions, Palworld has bad optimization on some models of videocards. If you're a part of unlucky few, it doesn't matter how good your system is, you can't play this game.

Waiting for a patch that fixes it, or a solution that works. Until then, I won't subject myself to this laggy experience.

[spokenty]

dont listen to people who say dont buy a 3050, ive had a ton of pcs and laptops diff types of gpus and honestly at long as youre getting 60fps on medium/ high settings which you will on anything unless its a crazy demanding game, youll be fine, trust me, the card is good, it can run a ton of games, this is not an entry level gpu things on a laptop and can run basically anything. these guys make it seem so bad, ive have a regular 3060 and i dont feel a difference in some games at all. its just the way you make it seem and how peoples opinions really change your thoughts, remember. this is a laptop, not a whole entire tower. Thats already a big plus, a console on the go, that can run anything while plugged in is amazing, keeping in mind you can connect it to your tv and play co op games with your friends if you have the options, obviously if we use our heads a mobile version of the 3050 is not as good as other ones because OBVIOUSLY ITS A LAPTOP LOL many people really be comparing a whole gpu to a mobile one, its crazy. rtx 3050 is fine even for its ram it can handle anything at medium like i said depending how demanding it is, but for 95% games it will run it just fine. dont worry lol, its literally a gaming console on your hands, while being able to take it too work, watch movies while in bed, play while in bed, do anything with it while in bed lol, stop over thinking it, its also not the best laptop out there but just saying its a good laptop whether you like it or not.