What is going on while we are offline????? Everyone is starving.. heck one died???

[Tanyon]

I log in today.. I was offline and my dedicated server was running while I was offline.. as expected..

Both my bases I go to when I log in EVERY pal is STARVING and has at least one of the following: Overfull, Weakened, depressed, fracture..

WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥? My bases have plenty of food, all beds and hot tubs.. they had no issues the entire time we played yesterday..

Ohh and now I have a raid.. this should be fun... ffs..

[Lent]

Because it's a dedi server and always running, raids can happen at any time and pets can get hurt from that combat - even if your guild is not online. Also, your pets are ofc consuming food while you're gone (so if you don't have a solid food supply coming in, they'll run out).

If your whole guild is logging off for a while, would recommend making sure to have some combat pets out working. Won't be as productive as your other pets but can make a diff in how many of your other pets get hurt while offline.

Another soln is to find some guild members that are on at diff times, etc. Or pause the server while you're offline

[Maru]

Originally posted by Lent:

Because it's a dedi server and always running, raids can happen at any time and pets can get hurt from that combat - even if your guild is not online. Also, your pets are ofc consuming food while you're gone (so if you don't have a solid food supply coming in, they'll run out).

If your whole guild is logging off for a while, would recommend making sure to have some combat pets out working. Won't be as productive as your other pets but can make a diff in how many of your other pets get hurt while offline.

Another soln is to find some guild members that are on at diff times, etc. Or pause the server while you're offline

dont listen to this comment. do the opposite of what this guy said which is put away you pals into your save base so they dont starve to death and get tons of debuffs. AI is broken if nobody is online or nearby the pal AI stops working and stand still until they starve to death. devs need to fix this asap

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by Lent:

Because it's a dedi server and always running, raids can happen at any time and pets can get hurt from that combat - even if your guild is not online. Also, your pets are ofc consuming food while you're gone (so if you don't have a solid food supply coming in, they'll run out).

If your whole guild is logging off for a while, would recommend making sure to have some combat pets out working. Won't be as productive as your other pets but can make a diff in how many of your other pets get hurt while offline.

Another soln is to find some guild members that are on at diff times, etc. Or pause the server while you're offline

There is only 3 of us playing.. and we have literally decimated every raid.. the hardest one I've ever had was like lvl 17.. never had an issue with raids.. my one base is basically raid proof on accident by the time the enemies get there they fight for maybe 10 seconds then leave.

also all my food bins are full.. I have like no joke.. 1k berries in multiple food bins.. at each base.

There is something seriously wrong here.. it's ridiculous. I might just have to turn the server off when we go to sleep.. wow..

[Lent]

dont listen to this comment. AI is broken if nobody is online or nearby the pal AI stops working and stand still until they starve to death. devs need to fix this asap

I didn't say everything was working perfectly, lol, and yes the AI is meh atm. Pathing is also janky and gets buggy if your stuff isn't on flat surfaces. But that doesn't make my comment any less true - pretty much every game that has AI raids and dedi servers functions this way, and raids *do* sometimes incur damage, etc, especially at higher levels (or with Tocotocos explodiing everywhere, for example).

[Maru]

Originally posted by Lent:

dont listen to this comment. AI is broken if nobody is online or nearby the pal AI stops working and stand still until they starve to death. devs need to fix this asap

I didn't say everything was working perfectly, lol, and yes the AI is meh atm. Pathing is also janky and gets buggy if your stuff isn't on flat surfaces. But that doesn't make my comment any less true - pretty much every game that has AI raids and dedi servers functions this way, and raids *do* sometimes incur damage, etc, especially at higher levels (or with Tocotocos explodiing everywhere, for example).

this is a known issue idk why you are making ♥♥♥♥ up or pretend this issue doesnt exist for every dedicated servers right now. i saw it myself, too. the pal AI stack up at the base center and dont move even when they starve to death. literally nothing to do with what you said is happening currently. its the pal AI itself the issue.

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by Lent:

dont listen to this comment. AI is broken if nobody is online or nearby the pal AI stops working and stand still until they starve to death. devs need to fix this asap

I didn't say everything was working perfectly, lol, and yes the AI is meh atm. Pathing is also janky and gets buggy if your stuff isn't on flat surfaces. But that doesn't make my comment any less true - pretty much every game that has AI raids and dedi servers functions this way, and raids *do* sometimes incur damage, etc, especially at higher levels (or with Tocotocos explodiing everywhere, for example).

that might explain the injuries and the one death.. but there is 0 damage to my base.. nothing is missing/broken.. it seems to me that the other guy who said they just stand still and stop eating makes more sense.. it's completely insane..

I'll have to make 10 TEN of the high lvl medicine my highest medical Pal is lvl 2.. it takes her like 10 minutes to make a single one and that's if I'm staying on her and making her work.. I've been fine with the jank.. and the crap till now.. now this is a big, time consuming issue.

[Lent]

Originally posted by Maru:

this is a known issue idk why you are making ♥♥♥♥ up or pretend this issue doesnt exist for every dedicated servers right now. i saw it myself, too. the pal AI stack up at the base center and dont move even when they starve to death. literally nothing to do with what you said is happening currently. its the pal AI itself the issue.

I didn't say it didn't exist; both our statements can be true (and are, as far as I'm aware). I'm not making anything up, lol, you're just being aggro for no reason. Game is buggy *and* also has some mechanics - both likely contributed to the OP's issue. Chill m8

[Tanyon]

Another crazy thing is ALL of them have low sanity yet nobody is using the hot tubs.. I have 2 at each base..

[Lent]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

I'll have to make 10 TEN of the high lvl medicine my highest medical Pal is lvl 2.. it takes her like 10 minutes to make a single one and that's if I'm staying on her and making her work.. I've been fine with the jank.. and the crap till now.. now this is a big, time consuming issue.

FYI can buy the medicine you need, merchants will normally have it - depending on your setup gold might be easier to farm, etc (that's normally what we do on our server for such, FWIW).

[Sugam]

path finding is another important aspect to take in though I am not sure if that could be the case here if no one is there.

[Maru]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

Originally posted by Lent:

I didn't say everything was working perfectly, lol, and yes the AI is meh atm. Pathing is also janky and gets buggy if your stuff isn't on flat surfaces. But that doesn't make my comment any less true - pretty much every game that has AI raids and dedi servers functions this way, and raids *do* sometimes incur damage, etc, especially at higher levels (or with Tocotocos explodiing everywhere, for example).

that might explain the injuries and the one death.. but there is 0 damage to my base.. nothing is missing/broken.. it seems to me that the other guy who said they just stand still and stop eating makes more sense.. it's completely insane..

I'll have to make 10 TEN of the high lvl medicine my highest medical Pal is lvl 2.. it takes her like 10 minutes to make a single one and that's if I'm staying on her and making her work.. I've been fine with the jank.. and the crap till now.. now this is a big, time consuming issue.

i dont think raids are happening when no players are online but like i said Pals remain stuck and dont move an inch when no player is online/nearby thats why hot tubs or having food doesnt do anything

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by Sugam:

path finding is another important aspect to take in though I am not sure if that could be the case here if no one is there.

Yea we actually made our bases VERY open concept because it seems the more you build/make and place down the worse it gets so everything should be ok for pathing.

[Lent]

Originally posted by DarthTanyon:

Another crazy thing is ALL of them have low sanity yet nobody is using the hot tubs.. I have 2 at each base..

Yeah pathing is kinda dumb sometimes/often. Couple things we noticed:
- Make sure (when possible) all your stuff Pals need to get to is on flat surface (ideally on same level),
- Trees, rocks, etc respawn so try to make sure you don't place things where a respawn would interrupt an ideal path
- Try moving the hot tub or other objects to see if pals recognize it.

Ultimately we made sure our buildings were completely out of the way and for the most part our buildings don't contain anything other than cosmetics, etc for the players. Pretty much everything the pals need is outside and that helps a good bit.

regardless, plenty of room for improvement on pathing, etc for sure

[Sid Longwei]

Just throwing in my experience for data. Have a dedicated server and left it on for 6 hours with no one playing (only me and my gf are on it atm). Came on to no Pals starving or sick/injured. First time doing that so might have just got lucky.

[Tanyon]

Originally posted by Sid Longwei:

Just throwing in my experience for data. Have a dedicated server and left it on for 6 hours with no one playing (only me and my gf are on it atm). Came on to no Pals starving or sick/injured. First time doing that so might have just got lucky.

To be fair our server has been online for.. 3 full days now.. this is not the first time we have left them alone.. but it is the first time with an issue of this magnitude upon returning.. maybe because we have 12 now? I don't know but whatever it is is really frustrating and I'd be careful leaving them unattended for long periods I guess.