Refrigerator requires circuits but still needs ice pal to work?

[Monolith]

Should run off electricity in my opinion.

[Mythical Clutch]

one of if not many decisions that baffle me honestly. theres so many things i can possibly do. however to be efficient and autonomous with it i have to sacrifice never using things like refrigerators simply because ill probably never have the pal space to afford doing something like that

[Monolith]

Originally posted by Mythical Clutch:

one of if not many decisions that baffle me honestly. theres so many things i can possibly do. however to be efficient and autonomous with it i have to sacrifice never using things like refrigerators simply because ill probably never have the pal space to afford doing something like that

Agreed....maybe if the limit wasn't 20....

[Kai]

Revamp cooling, to be more like electricity.

Have it be a gauge that caps out at 99%, and decrease over time, so the cooling effects stays active and a pal charges it up.

It's a little silly that a item gets 5x the duration when the cooling is constantly applied but suddenly lost when the pal decides to go for lunch or to go to sleep.

[funewchie]

To be fair, though, even real-life fridges need more than electricity to work.

They need a refrigerant to do the actual cooling (in years past, it was Freon).
So it would make sense you'd need more than circuits and electricity in your gamer fridge, you'd need something that absorbs heat and transfers it elsewhere.

[Monolith]

Originally posted by funewchie:

To be fair, though, even real-life fridges need more than electricity to work.

They need a refrigerant to do the actual cooling (in years past, it was Freon).
So it would make sense you'd need more than circuits and electricity in your gamer fridge, you'd need something that absorbs heat and transfers it elsewhere.

True but as stated above, fridges don't lose their temps the second the freon stops cooling it. Should last a bit with the pal just having to hit it to refresh occasionally.

[Nex0]

Originally posted by Kai:

Revamp cooling, to be more like electricity.

Have it be a gauge that caps out at 99%, and decrease over time, so the cooling effects stays active and a pal charges it up.

I strongly second that. Simple yet effective solution for a rather annoying mechanic at the moment

[Toumal]

Fully agree.

[imricharded]

Originally posted by funewchie:

To be fair, though, even real-life fridges need more than electricity to work.

They need a refrigerant to do the actual cooling (in years past, it was Freon).
So it would make sense you'd need more than circuits and electricity in your gamer fridge, you'd need something that absorbs heat and transfers it elsewhere.

I agree. That's why it requires ice organs to make. Replacing the refrigerant you speak of. A refrigerator that requires an outside source of cold is dumb. Just make it a larger cooler. It literally makes no sense. Refrigerators make themselves cold. We don't have to add ice everyday.

[Vyvyvn]

Originally posted by Monolith:

Agreed....maybe if the limit wasn't 20....

It isn't.
The limit's 10-15 on live servers unless the server settings are on the max of 20.

[King of Amazons]

Don't forget to have Pals and humans eat directly from fridges, too.

[Weaver]

"Should run on Electricity only."

"Revamp Cooling to be more like Electricity."

I've heard both arguments, and either would work better than the current system. Even if they're trying to be realistic about it, temperature changes can take a very long time in an insulated system. It should take all night to reach a temperature which would threaten food. That, at least, would stop "Oh, the Pal needs to sleep, so all your food goes bad" from happening without introducing something super abusable.

Personally, I don't think a fix is incoming. Palworld seems mostly geared towards being all about the Pals. Player damage pales in comparison, and even if you spam Workspeed on your character, you will never keep up with Lunaris' Handiwork III rating.

Don't mistake my pointing these things out as a position in which I believe the things should or would change; I just feel like the devs want us 100% reliant on Pals, and therefore will be unwilling to loosen the restrictions on what players can do without them.

Moving Cooling to a system in which the player can choose whether to use Electricty or Cooling for the refrigerator will 100% result in 0% of players using their Pals for it. Moving it to Electricity only? Nobody will use the Pal-powered version. There won't be a reason to: Not when the item does not retain cooling overnight.

If they do allow Cooling to operate on a charge, like Electricity does, that will be the most effective solution to keep Pals in the loop. Charge up the fridge at daybreak, stow the pal until nightfall. Sounds great to me.

[Fistraiser]

Im level 45 and still havent used a fridge.
My pals are happy enough with their diet of wheat and berries.

[G-Yuki]

Originally posted by funewchie:

To be fair, though, even real-life fridges need more than electricity to work.

They need a refrigerant to do the actual cooling (in years past, it was Freon).
So it would make sense you'd need more than circuits and electricity in your gamer fridge, you'd need something that absorbs heat and transfers it elsewhere.

That's where the ice organ comes in when we craft it.

[VeronaKate]

To be blunt Should require a ice pall for the lower tier but once its powered by electricity it should no longer need a ice pall . The idea of needing 2 pals just to make a fridge work is rather dumb . One or the other not both . I really do not understand why a fridge powered by electricity needs a ice pal still unless our characters are dumber than a box of rocks and forgetting to install the cooling element when creating the fridge .

[Sanquin]

Same goes for the heater/cooler you can put in your base. Like...why build those upgraded versions if they still require pals? Before I unlocked and built them I thought "oh sweet, they're electric. So I can use my limited pal spots for other things then?" But nope...