Please add a toggle "press F" function to crafting!!

[AKTrent_TTV]

the game is fun, but a HUGE time is spent crafting things. and holding F for literal hours is just not fun. at least let us just press it one time so we can go do other things while it crafts

Edit: i Understand you can change the settings. i don't want to. i want to play with the settings the devs thought would be best. however crafting still sucks. it's not hard to add a "toggle/hold" feature. lol

[Rufus]

Originally posted by AKTrent_TTV:

Originally posted by Rufus:

I agree that there's no good reason not to make the crafting key a toggle, or at least make it an option. However, you should still have to stand there to do the crafting; the workbenches are just that, benches to work at, not automatic assembly machines.

well technically they kinda are with the pals. just automatic assembly machines that take forever and "are upset and refuse to work" all the time haha

Pals working the benches is fine; the bench is being manned by an actual pair of hands that require resources. It wouldn't sit right if the bench just worked by itself with no input from a worker. As for the speed and willingness to work of Pals sometimes, yeah

[Pyro3000]

Originally posted by Deceiver9811:

Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:

What you're saying is silly though because you don't HAVE to hold F, that's what the Pals are for. Learn some self control and play other parts of the game lol the fact that this is what you choose to complain about is just funny to me that's all.

I don't know how simple I can make this. I want to do a thing, but to do that thing I require large amounts of a specific resource. I want to craft said resource as fast as possible so I can do the thing I want to do. I contribute my labor to speed things up, but holding a button for minutes is boring as hell. A toggle would be a very simple quality of life change.

Having Pals do it on their own is stupid when I have the ability to contribute labor. I have nothing else to do in the game until it's done, so literally why not?

Contributing my labor is exactly what I'm doing, and what I would be fine with if it were a toggle. Increasing my work speed is something that I have also done, but since the only way to transport goods between bases is to carry it manually, carry weight is a far more important stat at the moment. Also spending 2.5 minutes holding down a button instead of 5 minutes is still a problem

Catching Pals with a higher crafting speed doesn't really solve anything because Pals regularly take breaks, or prioritize other tasks; so even with a team of Pals with the highest level crafting it might still be significantly faster if you craft it with your own labour. Also, even if you could have a Pal work at a station without taking breaks to sleep or eat, it'd still be faster with your labour. So this still doesn't solve anything.

Changing the crafting speed isn't ideal because that's not the problem I have. It's specifically holding down a button for minutes that I have a problem with, not the length of time required. This can be solved by a toggle, there's no need to make massive gameplay changes in my world for what is a quality of life change, especially one that would be so easy for devs to implement. Even if I'm still sitting at my PC waiting for a set of items to finish crafting, I'd still enjoy that process more if I don't have to hold a button for however many minutes it takes to fully craft.

My problem is not with how long I have to wait, it's how long I have to hold the button. My problem is holding the button. Specifically holding the button when it takes minutes to complete a task. Have I made it clear that my problem is holding the button for minutes? Are you capable of understanding that the problem is holding the button for minutes? Do I need to keep repeating that the problem is holding down a button for minutes? Or are you intentionally missing the point so you can keep making circular arguments?

Manually crafting is actually slowing you down. You need to step away from your crafting and let your pals do it. You contribution is putting the blueprint down. Manually crafting should be a last resort sort of deal. You need to plan your base and blueprints so that it operates effectively without your input. Make multiple benches. Set things to be built continuously.

for instance, I just set down a primitive furnace. I'm not going to sit there and hand craft it. I left it for my Pals to take care of while I go out and hunt for materials and more Pals. When I get back, the furnace will be built, and that 30 seconds I was going to spend hand crafting it has been saved.

[AKTrent_TTV]

Originally posted by Deceiver9811:

Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:

What you're saying is silly though because you don't HAVE to hold F, that's what the Pals are for. Learn some self control and play other parts of the game lol the fact that this is what you choose to complain about is just funny to me that's all.

I don't know how simple I can make this. I want to do a thing, but to do that thing I require large amounts of a specific resource. I want to craft said resource as fast as possible so I can do the thing I want to do. I contribute my labor to speed things up, but holding a button for minutes is boring as hell. A toggle would be a very simple quality of life change.

Having Pals do it on their own is stupid when I have the ability to contribute labor. I have nothing else to do in the game until it's done, so literally why not?

Contributing my labor is exactly what I'm doing, and what I would be fine with if it were a toggle. Increasing my work speed is something that I have also done, but since the only way to transport goods between bases is to carry it manually, carry weight is a far more important stat at the moment. Also spending 2.5 minutes holding down a button instead of 5 minutes is still a problem

Catching Pals with a higher crafting speed doesn't really solve anything because Pals regularly take breaks, or prioritize other tasks; so even with a team of Pals with the highest level crafting it might still be significantly faster if you craft it with your own labour. Also, even if you could have a Pal work at a station without taking breaks to sleep or eat, it'd still be faster with your labour. So this still doesn't solve anything.

Changing the crafting speed isn't ideal because that's not the problem I have. It's specifically holding down a button for minutes that I have a problem with, not the length of time required. This can be solved by a toggle, there's no need to make massive gameplay changes in my world for what is a quality of life change, especially one that would be so easy for devs to implement. Even if I'm still sitting at my PC waiting for a set of items to finish crafting, I'd still enjoy that process more if I don't have to hold a button for however many minutes it takes to fully craft.

My problem is not with how long I have to wait, it's how long I have to hold the button. My problem is holding the button. Specifically holding the button when it takes minutes to complete a task. Have I made it clear that my problem is holding the button for minutes? Are you capable of understanding that the problem is holding the button for minutes? Do I need to keep repeating that the problem is holding down a button for minutes? Or are you intentionally missing the point so you can keep making circular arguments?

Thank you!

100%.

[Pyro3000]

It's going to be really rough for you both when you reach the items that the player CAN'T craft on their own.

[AKTrent_TTV]

Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:

You're beyond help

i wasn't asking for help. thanks bud for coming in here and adding all your super helpful insight on basic game mechanics :D:steamthumbsup:

[AKTrent_TTV]

Originally posted by AKTrent_TTV:

Originally posted by TheShadowHatter:

You're beyond help

i wasn't asking for help. thanks bud for coming in here and adding all your super helpful insight on basic game mechanics :D

[Rufus]

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

Manually crafting is actually slowing you down. You need to step away from your crafting and let your pals do it. You contribution is putting the blueprint down. Manually crafting should be a last resort sort of deal. You need to plan your base and blueprints so that it operates effectively without your input. Make multiple benches. Set things to be built continuously.

for instance, I just set down a primitive furnace. I'm not going to sit there and hand craft it. I left it for my Pals to take care of while I go out and hunt for materials and more Pals. When I get back, the furnace will be built, and that 30 seconds I was going to spend hand crafting it has been saved.

While what you say is correct, it's completely beside the point. It's not the speed or efficiency that's the issue but the necessity of holding the button to do so. It's a simple QoL change that doesn't change the flow of the game or negatively affect anyone in any way. It's fair that you need to stand at the bench to craft, should you choose to do so yourself, there's just no need to sit with your finger on the key the entire time. It makes no difference to the game if you can just press the button once and then sit back for a bit but it makes it a lot more enjoyable for the player.

[Deceiver9811]

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

Manually crafting is actually slowing you down. You need to step away from your crafting and let your pals do it. You contribution is putting the blueprint down. Manually crafting should be a last resort sort of deal. You need to plan your base and blueprints so that it operates effectively without your input. Make multiple benches. Set things to be built continuously.

for instance, I just set down a primitive furnace. I'm not going to sit there and hand craft it. I left it for my Pals to take care of while I go out and hunt for materials and more Pals. When I get back, the furnace will be built, and that 30 seconds I was going to spend hand crafting it has been saved.

Pals regularly disregard tasks if there are other things they can do, they also regularly take breaks. Also while there is a limit on how many Pals that can use a particular work station, the player does not count to that limit. So literally no, you are not slowing yourself down by crafting manually.

Still not a bad suggestion. I only have 2 problems, one of which being the poor pathing of the AI, which is something I imagine they'll fix eventually, and the other is the inability to set task priority, meaning you can't really force your Pals to work a specific task. You can try, but the moment they take a break they'll forget and go back to doing their own thing. Which is particularly hilarious if you're trying to force them to take a break, only for them to angrily storm over to a mining station, seemingly determined to give themselves a concussion before bed.

[Player Zer01]

Originally posted by parent child bowl:

I don't craft anything outside of the first hour. I have slaves for that.

i shouldnt have laughed at that but i did... damn you

[Pyro3000]

Originally posted by Deceiver9811:

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

Manually crafting is actually slowing you down. You need to step away from your crafting and let your pals do it. You contribution is putting the blueprint down. Manually crafting should be a last resort sort of deal. You need to plan your base and blueprints so that it operates effectively without your input. Make multiple benches. Set things to be built continuously.

for instance, I just set down a primitive furnace. I'm not going to sit there and hand craft it. I left it for my Pals to take care of while I go out and hunt for materials and more Pals. When I get back, the furnace will be built, and that 30 seconds I was going to spend hand crafting it has been saved.

Pals regularly disregard tasks if there are other things they can do, they also regularly take breaks. Also while there is a limit on how many Pals that can use a particular work station, the player does not count to that limit. So literally no, you are not slowing yourself down by crafting manually.

Still not a bad suggestion. I only have 2 problems, one of which being the poor pathing of the AI, which is something I imagine they'll fix eventually, and the other is the inability to set task priority, meaning you can't really force your Pals to work a specific task. You can try, but the moment they take a break they'll forget and go back to doing their own thing. Which is particularly hilarious if you're trying to force them to take a break, only for them to angrily storm over to a mining station, seemingly determined to give themselves a concussion before bed.

They prioritize their specialty. Get a plantation and feed box going, and they'll eat when they first wake up. Beyond that, so long as you have a sauna and enough beds, you don't have to worry much about them taking breaks. They'll generally strive to finish a task before quitting. I've yet to have an issue coming back to find something left unbuilt, items uncrafted, and ores unsmelted.

[Deceiver9811]

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

They prioritize their specialty. Get a plantation and feed box going, and they'll eat when they first wake up. Beyond that, so long as you have a sauna and enough beds, you don't have to worry much about them taking breaks. They'll generally strive to finish a task before quitting. I've yet to have an issue coming back to find something left unbuilt, items uncrafted, and ores unsmelted.

I have a feed box with hundreds of baked berries and other foods. I also have 2 saunas and a high quality sauna. Pals still take breaks. To be clear I'm talking about regular breaks, not their stress induced tantrums.

If I leave and come back I do typically find everything is done when I return, but that doesn't really help if the item being crafted is something I need to take with me before I leave. Like ammo and Pal Spheres, or gunpowder/cement needed to craft them.

[Pyro3000]

Originally posted by Deceiver9811:

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

They prioritize their specialty. Get a plantation and feed box going, and they'll eat when they first wake up. Beyond that, so long as you have a sauna and enough beds, you don't have to worry much about them taking breaks. They'll generally strive to finish a task before quitting. I've yet to have an issue coming back to find something left unbuilt, items uncrafted, and ores unsmelted.

I have a feed box with hundreds of baked berries and other foods. I also have 2 saunas and a high quality sauna. Pals still take breaks. To be clear I'm talking about regular breaks, not their stress induced tantrums.

If I leave and come back I do typically find everything is done when I return, but that doesn't really help if the item being crafted is something I need to take with me before I leave. Like ammo and Pal Spheres, or gunpowder/cement needed to craft them.

Then you need to prepare more, and be more willing to make venturing trips for other reasons such as unlocking a new fast travel point. I try to set my pal spheres to be made when I'm working on the base itself, and I try to make sure whenever I get below 20, I have more being made.

[AKTrent_TTV]

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

Originally posted by Deceiver9811:

I have a feed box with hundreds of baked berries and other foods. I also have 2 saunas and a high quality sauna. Pals still take breaks. To be clear I'm talking about regular breaks, not their stress induced tantrums.

If I leave and come back I do typically find everything is done when I return, but that doesn't really help if the item being crafted is something I need to take with me before I leave. Like ammo and Pal Spheres, or gunpowder/cement needed to craft them.

Then you need to prepare more, and be more willing to make venturing trips for other reasons such as unlocking a new fast travel point. I try to set my pal spheres to be made when I'm working on the base itself, and I try to make sure whenever I get below 20, I have more being made.

which would be why the toggle f functionality would be greatly appreciated. so when people do need to prepare more things, they don't have to sit holding the f button for 10 minutes straight over and over again lol

[Surottoru]

You craft?
I throw my pal at it and tell them to work

[Pyro3000]

Originally posted by AKTrent_TTV:

Originally posted by Pyro3000:

Then you need to prepare more, and be more willing to make venturing trips for other reasons such as unlocking a new fast travel point. I try to set my pal spheres to be made when I'm working on the base itself, and I try to make sure whenever I get below 20, I have more being made.

which would be why the toggle f functionality would be greatly appreciated. so when people do need to prepare more things, they don't have to sit holding the f button for 10 minutes straight over and over again lol

Just go outside of your base with a stick and beat up some wild Pal for drops while your base pal craft. The entire point is that you should not be the one crafting beyond the beginning. If you have to hold f for 10 minutes, then you aren't utilizing your Pal correctly.