Slavery & animal cruelty features in Palworld; BUYERS BEWARE!

[Emperor Jinchou 🔴]

Look, I get that it's a survival game but don't you think this is pushing it too far? You literally capture both humans and animals alike and then have them do unpaid labor, and can kill them at any time, aka slavery and animal cruelty. That is disgusting ngl, why do you think orginizations like PETA even exist????

Furthermore, Palworld has been rated PEGI 7 for 'mild violence' despite numerous threads within the Palworld community where a lot of posters say that it's for a mature audience due to these themes being a core part of the game. How is this ok???? Won't someone think of the children who'll now be engaging with such vile themes?

If you are a parent who is considering to buy Palworld for their kids or even play it with them, please voice your views on this!

[About47Pandas]

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Originally posted by Colby:

PETA exists to kill animals. You know this right? They euthanize more animals than anyone else.

But that's only as a last resort, after trying to save them. You can fact-check this online.

This -- this isnt true. PETA euthanizes a higher proportion of animals in their care compared to other animal shelters and rescue organizations. They are really quick to resort to Euthanasia instead of seeking medical treatment or find them a home.

Virginia, where PETA is headquartered, made a law SB 1381, to make private animal shelters, like peta, as a place where the primary mission is to find permanent homes for animals in THIS life, not send them to the next.

Why did they do this? Because of the 1100 dogs they got in 2019, nearly 700 were killed by them.

https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2019

Thats a huge mark up VS most of the others.

[Wanderer]

They're paid! Free food, free rent, a bed, a bath spot... All sorts of stuff!

.... but the guns better be made by the morning.

[Amos]

Yeah. So what? It is a game. Stop it, get some help

[Emperor Jinchou 🔴]

Originally posted by Kai:

PETA exists to steal your money through use of charities.
Like the WHO, the WEF, the UN, etc...

These major organizations eventually find ways to siphon money from people's lives, then use the wealth to encroach your political spheres, and then get into power to change your economics to their benefits.

Big if true. What are you basing this on though?

[About47Pandas]

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Originally posted by About47Pandas:

With the (emotionally charged) post, and you saying you are reformed and not disrespecting people-- it takes a real person to recognize that you are infact being disrespectful to people who do enjoy the game. While this is the internet, you can clearly see most people disagree with you.

But that's normal because most people on x game forum are there because they like x game, so the status quo will always be against someone who takes an issue with something about it.

Also it's not about what I can understand but rather what parents and kids can understand. See my PEGI rating argument; slavery and animal cruelty being a big theme in this game is not clear at all from the trailers and with the age rating likely being 6 then that's a lot of impressionable kids suddenly potentially engaging with that, especially with no official minimum age rating out right now.

I mean-- its normal because typically the any one game is generally alright for whatever genre it serves. But-- we have things like https://steamcommunity.com/app/2140330/discussions/ MADDEN 24 where nearly every other post is about how bad the game is.

In so far as chidren are concerned. I am a parent of two girls that play roblox and fortnite. I look at their spending-- I look what they play-- I play the game with them too so I can get a general feel of what that game is about. As a gamer, I dont mind this so much as a vetting process for my children. But I can see why its hard for some parents. -- BUT Its not on the person who made the thing.

But When we talk about this vetting process, it is ultimately on the parents to do the research for their kid. Because their kids are dumb, my kids are dumb.

MY issue I have-- is that they have a smart phone with incognito mode. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ know if they are watching porn, on 4chan or on some variant of liveleak (RIP Liveleak). Thats the ♥♥♥♥ I really care about. Not inherently because "they shouldn't watch it" but because I want them to understand what content they are consuming and I want them to rationalize it properly because one day they will be adults. Me and my wife try very hard to teach them logic and reasoning. We cant watch them 24/7. If they are going to do drugs, we want them to know what its going to do them, if they are going to have sex, we want them to be safe, if theyre going to drink they need to call us so we can pick them up so we can make sure they're good.

Its not on any one else what kids consume. Its the parents-- and its their job to help them think critically.

The kids argument is a poor one.

I know what games my kids play. Gaming isn't the problem.

[Emperor Jinchou 🔴]

Originally posted by About47Pandas:

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

But that's normal because most people on x game forum are there because they like x game, so the status quo will always be against someone who takes an issue with something about it.

Also it's not about what I can understand but rather what parents and kids can understand. See my PEGI rating argument; slavery and animal cruelty being a big theme in this game is not clear at all from the trailers and with the age rating likely being 6 then that's a lot of impressionable kids suddenly potentially engaging with that, especially with no official minimum age rating out right now.

Its not on any one else what kids consume. Its the parents-- and its their job to help them think critically.

Yes, and my thread helps bring awareness to that as you don't see it in promotional material.

[Flappers]

PETA is a joke of an organisation.

This game is as cruel to fake creatures as pokemon is.

Pokemon has been around for decades. In pokemon, you capture and force pokemon to fight. How is it different in this context? It's not.

If you're such a snowflake and getting riled up over video game characters, then I think you need to speak to a therapist. None of the animals are real, and the message you're trying to send is no different to "shooter games cause real world violence" which has been objectively proven time and time again to be false.

[mayaka ibara]

STOP texting like a clown pls, do you ever know there is a game category named simulation business? Every RTS or strategy game will have so called slavery or cruelty, just because this game shows cute animals so you can take f*** PETA as a reason. But I still want to ask, is there any "E-PETA" or virtual PETA exist?

[Emperor Jinchou 🔴]

Originally posted by Flappers:

PETA is a joke of an organisation.

This game is as cruel to fake creatures as pokemon is.

Pokemon has been around for decades. In pokemon, you capture and force pokemon to fight. How is it different in this context? It's not.

If you're such a snowflake and getting riled up over video game characters, then I think you need to speak to a therapist. None of the animals are real, and the message you're trying to send is no different to "shooter games cause real world violence" which has been objectively proven time and time again to be false.

But those games are rated R for mature, this is currently unrated age and is looking to be PEGI 6 & looks very deceptive / suitable for kids based on trailer.

[ishi]

I pay my workers with love

[About47Pandas]

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Originally posted by About47Pandas:

Its not on any one else what kids consume. Its the parents-- and its their job to help them think critically.

Yes, and my thread helps bring awareness to that as you don't see it in promotional material.

Not really. You give a skewed opinion that is emotionally charged.

And you've been ratio'd pretty hard my friend.

If we go through your OP we can break down why you're wrong.

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Look, I get that it's a survival game but don't you think this is pushing it too far? You literally capture both humans and animals alike and then have them do unpaid labor, and can kill them at any time, aka slavery and animal cruelty. That is disgusting ngl, why do you think orginizations like PETA even exist????

You can capture the people and animals, yes.

Do unpaid labor? This is a video game, they are not real-- its moot, but to entertain it-- you do give them a bed, you give them the ability to cook their own food, feed themselves, you are given the incentive to keep their sanity high-- which is a good thing-- for this fake, not real, fictional animal.

Kill them at anytime? No- Not until level 15 or something. which takes a bit to get there. but the important bit is -- you say it "promotes" these things. You are not forced to do this-- you don't have to do this-- there is not progression block if you don't.
-- understand something-- the ability to do something does not equate to it promoting a thing. you are doing a classic classic classic fallacy. Fallacy of Composition, which occurs when you assume that what is true for a part is also true for the whole.

when you follow that up with AKA Slavery and animal cruelty you are begging the question -- which is another fallacy. Which is when your argument's conclusion is assumed in the premise. meaning you are taking for granted what it's suppose to prove. You are presupposing that the mechanics are not only representative of slavery and animal cruelty, but that it actively promotes it-- which is categorically false. You are bypassing the steps of proving that the games mechanics are genuinely analogous to these real world serious issues.

Just saying what you said-- doesn't mean anything. The only people that would believe you are people who are not that bright.

again-- you say its disgusting etc-- which is dismissive and emotionally charged-- Appeal to emotion-- appeal to disgust-- etc whatever you wanna call it -- its not a valid way to discuss it.

While you say you have changed-- etc, what you are ultimately doing is manipulating emotional responses to persuade, rather than using rational logic to discuss the point

Edit:
Just to add- When I said "You are bypassing the steps of proving that the games mechanics are genuinely analogous to these real world serious issues." You come pretty close if not crossing the line of comparing people and animals that actually suffer -- to a video game, where arguably no one has suffered.

[limierr]

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Look, I get that it's a survival game but don't you think this is pushing it too far? You literally capture both humans and animals alike and then have them do unpaid labor, and can kill them at any time, aka slavery and animal cruelty. That is disgusting ngl, why do you think orginizations like PETA even exist????

I mean, with this logic you could close most of the game.

Also if you looks at pokemon games (removing the gun and working), it is similar :
=> You capture / fight pokemon living in the wild for sometimes just collection, level up, ...
=> You use attack which can poison them, electrocute them, ...
=> You put them inside balls and just get them out for fight, concour, ... Pokemon you don't want get most of the time get "stocked informatically" on a PC.
=> In a few game and only under the will of the player, you can take care of them (pet, make them cake, ...).
=> In fight, you can make them fight until exhaustion and they don't get reward out with xp as it is the owner who will get the money.

[.V.]

Bro, you know that the game proposal is right on the store page, right? Anyone can see what kind of game it is before buying, now why would you still bother watching and discussing something that is obviously not to your liking instead of just ignoring like many other games on this platform and finding something that suits your taste better, do you have a mental problem? It's a serious question, I'd rather not make fun of you if you really have.

[☠ Jordan ☠]

How are any of you actually falling for this? Congrats on awarding the OP a ton of free points but also ?

Edit: Ah, excuse to take shots at any roaming vegans. I see. Fair enough.

[LordUg]

Originally posted by Emperor Jinchou:

Look, I get that it's a survival game but don't you think this is pushing it too far? You literally capture both humans and animals alike and then have them do unpaid labor, and can kill them at any time, aka slavery and animal cruelty. That is disgusting ngl, why do you think orginizations like PETA even exist????

OMG you are so right. I was looking into my back garden and saw a roaming Eikthyrdeer wandering through my garden and I thought "The way they use these majestic creatures for slavery in that pixel world of Palworld, I must fight for them. So I called PETA, here's how the convo went.

"Hello PETA what can we do for you"
"Yes I would like to report animal slavery"
"Oh that's terrible can you give me the details please"
Yes it's called an Eikthyrdeer and it's being used ti chop wood with it's antlers in my PC game called Palworld. Please hurry and enter my game and save this creature!!!"
CLICK
"Hello...PETA, you there?...Hellooooooo"
Yes that conversation was fantasy. A lot like the animals on Palworld that don't exist!!!!!!!!!!

I know that was too long I just had too much time on my hands