TERRIBLE PERFORMANCE?

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Holy Hell. I'm on a 4070 and DESPITE lowering the settings to medium - the game is ridiculously low FPS.

Can someone tell me WTF is going on???

[derSanitoeter]

What CPU and memory ( speed and timings ) and which SSD / NVME drive do you have?

Nobody can react here without that data.

[H.I. McDunnough]

use dlss game performs horribly without it. With everything on epic I got like 40-50 fps at 1080p on my 4060 and i714700k 32 gigs ddr5. With dlss quality I get 100+ and the visual difference is negligible.

[Lightdral]

Definitely need DLSS https://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/still-wakes-the-deep-benchmarks-pc-performance-analysis/

[Balder]

Game plays great here. I use a 4090, but I have maxed out all the settings + DLAA, I'm getting well over 100fps all the time.

Very good graphics btw. Don't be fooled by the small download size. Really like the setting and time period too. Nice game!

[Jrm]

The game runs great on my end with a 5800x3d and 6950xt.

If you have the gamepass version you only have the TSR upscale and most people don't know how to use it properly.

The steam version has FSR3 and also DLSS too and easier to optimize settings.

[Wehzy]

I guess you're on Xbox game pass? The XGP version has no DLSS or FSR and runs like crap. Can't get above 40 fps even on lowest settings.

[Jrm]

**This is Optimization help for people with Gamepass**

So if you have the gamepass version you are stuck on only TSR for Upscale. Its not a bad upscale, you just need to know how to use it.

For low end gpu's you should be running at 1080P max selected in menu or 720P if needed
and also lower the resolution scale slider as needed. Put 3D Resolution slider down to 50%, put TSR quality down lower. Put settings on low/medium.

For Mid end gpu's you should be running at 1080P selected in the menu, set the settings on Medium for starters, set the 3D Resolution Slider down to 50-67%. I would try around 67-70% first it would be the equivalent to a "quality mode upscale". Don't go higher than this with a mid range gpu.

For High-very high end gpu's I would still recommend sticking with 1440p for UE5. Start with HIGH Presets First and check the TSR 3D Resolution and bump it down to around 67% for starters which is pretty much equal to "quality mode upscale".

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Originally posted by H.I. McDunnough:

use dlss game performs horribly without it. With everything on epic I got like 40-50 fps at 1080p on my 4060 and i714700k 32 gigs ddr5. With dlss quality I get 100+ and the visual difference is negligible.

How the heck is that even possible!? I mean - the game barely has anything happening on screen. I'm literally at the very start in the cabin. I'm shocked that a game like this can grind my rig to a halt. It's not Hellblade 2 or some other freshly released title that one expects to demand a huge amount to drive it.

Literally shocked. I was really looking forward to this.

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

I guess you're on Xbox game pass? The XGP version has no DLSS or FSR and runs like crap. Can't get above 40 fps even on lowest settings.

Yeah I'm on Game Pass. Why the heck are the two versions not identical!??!!?

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Originally posted by Jrm:

**This is Optimization help for people with Gamepass**

So if you have the gamepass version you are stuck on only TSR for Upscale. Its not a bad upscale, you just need to know how to use it.

For low end gpu's you should be running at 1080P max selected in menu or 720P if needed
and also lower the resolution scale slider as needed. Put 3D Resolution slider down to 50%, put TSR quality down lower. Put settings on low/medium.

For Mid end gpu's you should be running at 1080P selected in the menu, set the settings on Medium for starters, set the 3D Resolution Slider down to 50-67%. I would try around 67-70% first it would be the equivalent to a "quality mode upscale". Don't go higher than this with a mid range gpu.

For High-very high end gpu's I would still recommend sticking with 1440p for UE5. Start with HIGH Presets First and check the TSR 3D Resolution and bump it down to around 67% for starters which is pretty much equal to "quality mode upscale".

I appreciate the time - but I refuse to do any of this. I have a 4K monitor, 32GB of ram, an SSD and an i9.

I can run Hellblade 2. I can run Horizon Zero Dawn. I can run Alan Wake 2.

I am not turning down anything. It is CRAZY lazy incompetence from the devs' side that they haven't made sure the version on Game Pass is as good as the version on Steam!!!!

[Jrm]

Originally posted by Bongo :3:

Originally posted by Jrm:

**This is Optimization help for people with Gamepass**

So if you have the gamepass version you are stuck on only TSR for Upscale. Its not a bad upscale, you just need to know how to use it.

For low end gpu's you should be running at 1080P max selected in menu or 720P if needed
and also lower the resolution scale slider as needed. Put 3D Resolution slider down to 50%, put TSR quality down lower. Put settings on low/medium.

For Mid end gpu's you should be running at 1080P selected in the menu, set the settings on Medium for starters, set the 3D Resolution Slider down to 50-67%. I would try around 67-70% first it would be the equivalent to a "quality mode upscale". Don't go higher than this with a mid range gpu.

For High-very high end gpu's I would still recommend sticking with 1440p for UE5. Start with HIGH Presets First and check the TSR 3D Resolution and bump it down to around 67% for starters which is pretty much equal to "quality mode upscale".

I appreciate the time - but I refuse to do any of this. I have a 4K monitor, 32GB of ram, an SSD and an i9.

I can run Hellblade 2. I can run Horizon Zero Dawn. I can run Alan Wake 2.

I am not turning down anything. It is CRAZY lazy incompetence from the devs' side that they haven't made sure the version on Game Pass is as good as the version on Steam!!!!

I was just trying to help as I do work with Ue5 as well on small projects. On epic and steam it allows the use of all Upscale. On gamepass version it only allows the built in Default UE upscale, the devs would need to totally recode / reblueprint everything just for the Gamepass version. I see quite a bit of games have this same problem on the Gamepass version, so its not the devs fault really.

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Originally posted by Jrm:

Originally posted by Bongo :3:

I appreciate the time - but I refuse to do any of this. I have a 4K monitor, 32GB of ram, an SSD and an i9.

I can run Hellblade 2. I can run Horizon Zero Dawn. I can run Alan Wake 2.

I am not turning down anything. It is CRAZY lazy incompetence from the devs' side that they haven't made sure the version on Game Pass is as good as the version on Steam!!!!

I was just trying to help as I do work with Ue5 as well on small projects. On epic and steam it allows the use of all Upscale. On gamepass version it only allows the built in Default UE upscale, the devs would need to totally recode / reblueprint everything just for the Gamepass version. I see quite a bit of games have this same problem on the Gamepass version, so its not the devs fault really.

Brother like I said - I DO appreciate you taking the time. I wasn't being disrespectful to YOU.

I'm just blown away by the fact that the devs of this game submitted two entirely different builds of the game to Steam and Game Pass. Why the heck is it not the same!?

And secondly - I shouldn't have to use any kind of Upscaling/DLSS or anything like that. My rig is way beyond what this game requires. I can run Alan Wake 2, Horizon, Hellblade 2 - which are all vastly more complicated than a section of a ship with crew quarters...

Sad stuff. I was looking forward to this one.

You have a good day.

EDIT: I have played countless title on Game Pass for PC - and with the one exception of Quantum Break - which has funky green and purple lights everywhere - I have never encountered this issue you're describing - and there have been PLENTY of Unreal titles on there - like Hellblade 2, HI-FI Rush, Ghostwire Tokyo...

[H.I. McDunnough]

Originally posted by Bongo :3:

Originally posted by Jrm:

I was just trying to help as I do work with Ue5 as well on small projects. On epic and steam it allows the use of all Upscale. On gamepass version it only allows the built in Default UE upscale, the devs would need to totally recode / reblueprint everything just for the Gamepass version. I see quite a bit of games have this same problem on the Gamepass version, so its not the devs fault really.

Brother like I said - I DO appreciate you taking the time. I wasn't being disrespectful to YOU.

I'm just blown away by the fact that the devs of this game submitted two entirely different builds of the game to Steam and Game Pass. Why the heck is it not the same!?

And secondly - I shouldn't have to use any kind of Upscaling/DLSS or anything like that. My rig is way beyond what this game requires. I can run Alan Wake 2, Horizon, Hellblade 2 - which are all vastly more complicated than a section of a ship with crew quarters...

Sad stuff. I was looking forward to this one.

You have a good day.

Yeah, it's pretty insane to expect software developers to develop software in the current year.

/s

[pkmis007]

me play on game pass too. Game is free but patch will slower than steam about half a month. Because they need approve (for any patch apply) from microsoft first or something.

[🍹🌞🍉2001 SUMMER vibes]

Originally posted by pkmis007:

me play on game pass too. Game is free but patch will slower than steam about half a month. Because they need approve (for any patch apply) from microsoft first or something.

Game Pass isn't free. It's a subscription - like Netflix.

Whether or not there is a 15 day delay or not - it doesn't change the fact that the build of the game for both platforms should be exactly the same at all times.

It's yet another example of lazy game developers in the modern age. No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk2077, Ubifail. It's all just lazy people.