DLSS not available with an rtx compatible card

[The Crusader 39]

I'm playing the Gamepass version so i cannot speak on behalf of the steam copy but for me I am unable to access dlss, fsr3 or xess which should all be supported with my hardware from my understanding.

I only have available UE taau and UE tsr to choose from.

I have an rtx 3090 on driver version 552.44 and my os is windows 10 pro 22H2

Anyone else having similar issues with the gamepass version or here on steam?

[.Shankkky]

Good job guys. I have gamepass but I will have to play this game by pirating it. Lmao

[Akgis]

The thing is that its it says on the Menu that the options are available but doesn't let you chose any.

[Last Jackdaw]

Well I guess I will just uninstall gamepass version then.

Arrr me mateys.

[Hunlor]

What a load of crap dude, no other game on GP has this problem. Microsoft should sue your scummy ass for doing this crap

[Wonyo]

Originally posted by Hadxmen:

FLT version has every upscaler too.

But the game needs patching (some settings are not kept, etc.), so even this would have to wait :(

[Hudson]

Wow! I specifically got game pass for this game and now (learning about the broken app distribution model MS has created) I'm cancelling. DLSS is too critical for making performant on my weak PC.

[Technomancer87]

Originally posted by Hunlor:

What a load of crap dude, no other game on GP has this problem. Microsoft should sue your scummy ass for doing this crap

Reading this discussion got me curious, it seems this is actually a common problem for GP games after all, its not just this one. I guess extra work is needed with MS store to add such features since by default its optimized for AMD hardware given the Xbox hardware support as a play anywhere title? Seems its possible to add as Hellblade and No man's sky added DLSS later but I guess you need the technical know-how to make it possible through extra work.


Gamepass Games that don't have it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/180q1qj/no_rtx_dlss_on_windows_xbox_version/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/18js9ic/dlss_option_in_the_windows_store/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pc-game-pass-version-of-still-wakes-the-deep-has-unskippable-nvidia-rtx-ad-doesnt-support-rtx.904956/page-2?post=124672884#post-124672884
"I literally just downloaded FIST and Sword and Fairy since they're leaving game pass and it's the exact same situation with both of those games. They support ray tracing and DLSS on steam, but not on game pass. I had no idea this was common. ..."

It seems The Ascent didn't have DLSS at launch on Gamepass but steam did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/comments/yi0r3z/comment/iuhqw6w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

And lastly even Starfield had this issue in some form.
https://www.dexerto.com/tech/starfield-is-finally-getting-nvidia-dlss-but-game-pass-players-will-have-to-wait-2363532/


Hope the devs figure something out. They should at least remove any mention of it from the Gamepass version given some may be misled.

[Technomancer87]

Originally posted by Technomancer87:

Originally posted by Hunlor:

What a load of crap dude, no other game on GP has this problem. Microsoft should sue your scummy ass for doing this crap

Reading this discussion got me curious, it seems this is actually a common problem for GP games after all, its not just this one. I guess extra work is needed with MS store to add such features since by default its optimized for AMD hardware given the Xbox hardware support as a play anywhere title? Seems its possible to add as Hellblade and No man's sky added DLSS later but I guess you need the technical know-how to make it possible through extra work.


Gamepass Games that don't have it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/playark/comments/180q1qj/no_rtx_dlss_on_windows_xbox_version/

https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/18js9ic/dlss_option_in_the_windows_store/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pc-game-pass-version-of-still-wakes-the-deep-has-unskippable-nvidia-rtx-ad-doesnt-support-rtx.904956/page-2?post=124672884#post-124672884
"I literally just downloaded FIST and Sword and Fairy since they're leaving game pass and it's the exact same situation with both of those games. They support ray tracing and DLSS on steam, but not on game pass. I had no idea this was common. ..."

It seems The Ascent didn't have DLSS at launch on Gamepass but steam did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/comments/yi0r3z/comment/iuhqw6w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

And lastly even Starfield had this issue in some form.
https://www.dexerto.com/tech/starfield-is-finally-getting-nvidia-dlss-but-game-pass-players-will-have-to-wait-2363532/


Hope the devs figure something out. They should at least remove any mention of it from the Gamepass version given some may be misled.

Found more cases of this:

Jusant
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1977170/discussions/0/3877096256098472374/

FIST Forged in Shadow
https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/comments/14k3l55/fist_forged_in_shadow_torch_dumbed_down_version/

Sword and Fairy 7
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1543030/discussions/0/3806153791390133041/

Possibly even Forza but now fixed?
https://forums.forza.net/t/very-poor-optimization-and-performance-in-pc-game-pass/627632
https://forums.forza.net/t/very-poor-optimization-and-performance-in-pc-game-pass/627632
https://forums.forza.net/t/graphics-dlss-does-not-work-on-xbox-gamepass-for-pc-version/634352

So it looks like this is a big issue after all. I guess most devs just let the xbox console version or rather in the general sense have a Universal Microsoft "but largely Xbox targeted" version run on PC MS store with a few extra graphic settings but not direct full PC version in most cases due to extra limitations and/or more work of being a UWP app? I'm not a dev so I may be completely off base here so take this as you will. Whatever the case I'm gonna guess this dev is regrettably too small to be able to invest time and energy into the extra work for the PC game pass version to add DLSS manually rather than traditionally supported dev tools.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/get-started/universal-application-platform-guide

Edit: I will add that I'll still try the game on Gamepass for Series x later this week. It looks interesting. I kinda have to run it there as I can't imagine my gtx 1060 running this game at an enjoyable level, if at all, especially looking at the min specs and seeing people here talk about the need for DLSS.

Edit2: Final edit as my text is becoming bloated by repeat reply’s. This comment I found in a Reddit thread based on this discussion explains things better than I can and more concisely.

https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxGamePass/s/7qL8mQYRot

[Overon]

So we get a dumbed down inferior gamepass experience. Why are we paying for gamepass again? It's time for me to reconsider the gamepass subscription.

[Uzory_Neba]

Yesterday I wanted to beat the game, but it’s impossible to play without dlss, the optimization is terrible

[zzz]

It looks like a very good, game. I don't understand why do you ♥♥♥♥ on developers where problem is lying somewhere else? They explained why it must be this way and it's a quite obvious technical reason.

Also I don't understand complains on steam community forum? Steam version is ok.
If you don't like it this way please stop using gamepass and buy the game.

[Overon]

Originally posted by zzz:

It looks like a very good, game. I don't understand why do you ♥♥♥♥ on developers where problem is lying somewhere else? They explained why it must be this way and it's a quite obvious technical reason.

Also I don't understand complains on steam community forum? Steam version is ok.
If you don't like it this way please stop using gamepass and buy the game.

Because Gamepass doesn't have forums to complain on and Steam does.

[H.I. McDunnough]

Originally posted by Overon:

Originally posted by zzz:

It looks like a very good, game. I don't understand why do you ♥♥♥♥ on developers where problem is lying somewhere else? They explained why it must be this way and it's a quite obvious technical reason.

Also I don't understand complains on steam community forum? Steam version is ok.
If you don't like it this way please stop using gamepass and buy the game.

Because Gamepass doesn't have forums to complain on and Steam does.

^

[ChubbiChibbai]

From my end i'm more annoyed that it wasn't made clear. I chose to pay for gamepass for a month to play this game.

Had i known up front i would have bought the superior version of the game on Steam.

With a game like this that is essentially an immersive walking sim the visuals and fidelity are everything. So to know i'm playing a version that performs and looks worse is frustrating.

[Bovine]

Nobody with game pass should be surprised DLSS isn't in at launch, this is normal for many game pass games. Blame microsoft and their crappy qualifications process/file encryption that is forced upon every GP game which prevents mods..etc.